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WIP face death in the hope by LullabyKnell

Discussion in 'Almost Recommended' started by Socialist, Dec 27, 2018.

  1. Socialist

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    Title: face death in the hope (original title not capitalized)
    Author: LullabyKnell
    Rating: Teen & up
    Genre: Drama/Time travel fix-it
    Status: WIP
    Library Category: Probably Alternates
    Pairings: Harry/Regulus, James/Lily
    Length: About 157k words so far
    Summary:

    Harry looks vaguely nervous, scratching the back of his neck. “It's a really long story,” he says finally, almost apologetically, “and it's really hard to believe.”

    “Try me,” Regulus says, more than a little daringly.


    Link: https://archiveofourown.org/works/5986366/chapters/13756558

    So this is a new favorite of the "Harry goes back to MWPP time" stories.

    It opens with Regulus in the process of dying in the cave. Harry appears seemingly out of nowhere and rescues him. From there on they try to get their bearings and plot a tentative course of action to bring down Voldemort.

    The good:

    Characterisation is a marvel. The character voices are believable and feel organic. Apart from Regulus, named OCs like Marlene McKinnon and Dorcas Meadowes are also fully fleshed out, with interesting, distintctive personalities. Lily, James and Sirius are expanded upon with great care.

    Character interactions are very well written. There is a good balance of screen time and importance. The dialogue and narration do a good job of establishing the existing character relationships and building up new ones.

    The worldbuilding is very competent. The prose establishes a both whimsical and grave tone for the story. It is very evocative of how the characters live and move in a wonderful world, but on that is on the brink of catastrophe.

    You know how in many time travel stories the protagonist keeps himself "hidden" in order to preserve the timeline or some such bullshit? Well nothing like that happens here. Harry moves quickly to prove who he is to others and to secure clear objectives in order to facilitate Voldemort's defeat.

    Harry is not exactly in top shape, mentally. The story does something innovative in providing an excellent reason as to why he walked to his death in book 7. I'd go as far as to say that the slow unveiling of that reason is my favorite part of the story.

    The bad:

    The pacing sucks. There's no getting around it. In 157k words barely four or five days pass. Admittedly they are very full days, but... it doesn't bode well for the future of the story. The Harry/Regulus pairing hasn't even begun, for example.

    The prose can be purplish at times. The author sometimes gets overboard with dramatizing certain scenes and character reactions.

    There is a degree of repetition. Some information which the author considers important is brought up again and again.

    Conclusion:

    If you like reading about Harry meeting his parents (I do), but also hate most such stories (I absolutely do), you'll probably like this.

    I'll give this a clinical 3/5 which I'll subjectively raise to 4/5, because I enjoyed it so much. Again, however, the pacing is a real issue. Projecting this story to an ending, I estimate, would take at least 400 thousand words. Which, let's face it, probably means it's going to be abandoned.
     
  2. Ched

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    I more or less agree with this review, I think... but I don't quite enjoy it as much as you, since for me the positives aren't quite enough to cover up the negatives.

    This is an engaging story with great characterizations. The primary players (apart from Harry) all have unique personalities. The author did a good, if somewhat standard, job with James, Lily, and Sirius. Regulus is solid.

    But I'm most impressed by how fully fleshed out Marlene McKinnon feels. She's her own person with clearly defined character traits, some good some bad, and her family history has been tied into canon with reasons why LV took them all out during the war, etc. Dorcas Meadows is well done also but she is less tied into the plot.

    The story is easy to read. But frankly that's about all I can say for it - for me, this is a guilty pleasure fic.

    There's not a ton of unique world-building in here. Actually my favorite bit was during a conversation where someone recalled something that Professor Sprout had said about how items entrusted to something tend to stay there - i.e. it's very different to set a spade on a bench to get it out of the way than it is to put it there because you want to put it there.

    And the pace is glacial. I think about three days have passed since the story started, actually. Day1 Harry saves Regulus, Night1 they crash at a motel to recover, Day2 they contact the Potters, Night2 they crash at McKinnon's house, Day3 just got started.

    And yeah, stuff happens in those days, but... the main problem I have with the pacing isn't that only three days have passed. It's that the author is very bad at pacing how they convey information to either the reader or the characters in the story.

    It's a little difficult to explain but it's so fucking frustrating. And not in a good way. At first I thought the author was doing a poor job of conveying Harry's grief/anxiety/PTSD or whatever when he'd constantly wander off into thought at inconvenient times. I'll give the author credit though - that entire aspect of the story ended up being plot relevant, even if I think it was mostly a crutch to explain why Harry was 'out of it' and unable to clearly explain some things without getting lost in thought.

    But it still slowed the pace way down and... I guess it wasn't obvious enough that something was going on, so I thought it was poor writing, but at the same time it was too obvious b/c I kept noticing it and finding it frustrating. A bad middle ground, I guess.

    Beyond that there's this constant... every chapter, I'm always like, "Why doesn't X just do Y?" and "How come Z isn't asking about A or B?" and "How is it remotely possible that C has not occurred to D?!" And then a few chapters later it's like, oh, wow, can't believe I didn't think of that or ask that or whatever.

    The writing needlessly draws things out without an in-story reason that I can accept. The memory issue with Harry is a good plot point, I'll give it that... but it's not enough, and it doesn't explain why all the other characters seem to have some kind of highly selective-competency syndrome.

    It's good. It's about a 3/5. If you think you'd like to read a fic about Harry time-traveling back to after his parents finished Hogwarts but before Lily was pregnant, this is a decent story to try.

    But it's a character piece, primarily. The plot is there and potentially interesting, but glacially slow. The writing itself is easy to read. Most of the action is in the first couple of chapters. There are bits and pieces of neat world-building but nothing earth-shattering.

    But that issue with information and how characters get it and have it and act on it? It was so frustrating that I can't bring myself to round up higher, so 3/5 it is.

    Give the story a go if it sounds up your alley. If you get to Chapter 5 and are frustrated, quit. It's more of the same til the end, imo.
     
  3. AgentSatan

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    I read up to chapter 5 and it seems really good. The interactions between Harry and Regulus are gold.
    --- Post automerged ---
    Update: I read the whole fic, and there are no glaring problems to me. I haven't enjoyed a harry potter fic more in a long time. It has great characterization and Marlene McKinnon is characterized masterfully. The interactions between Regulus and Sirius are also spot on, and the way Harry suffers from his memories seems very believable while not being too angsty. Reading other comments on this thread a common complaint is pacing, but personally I don't think pacing being slow is necessarily bad when it doesn't get in the way of the plot. In this story, unfortunately, pacing does impact the plot, because the author advances the story really slowly and it gets in the way of all the interesting events the author has undoubtedly planned out.
    TLDR: I enjoyed it a lot so I give it a 4.5, however due to the pacing I rounded it down to a 4.
     
  4. MrBucket

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    What's up with this weird thing the author kept doing with words and dashes. It completely kills the flow for me and is actually irritating to read. Example: "He has served-allowed-admired a man who will ruin them all."

    Or: "Because under the handsome-face-charismatic-lies"

    Or: "How will they remake-return-to-glory the world when everyone is dead-sick-gone?"

    It annoyed me enough to drop the story before I even finished the first chapter.
     
  5. Agayek

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    My assumption there is that they copy-pasted from a forum or something where -word- was the code for word and wherever you were reading it didn't parse it the same way.
     
  6. MrBucket

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    I read it on Ao3, the only place it was posted. That doesn't quite make sense anyway. Those words being strikethroughed would be even more worse.
     
  7. Ched

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    I assumed it was posted as intended and that the author was attempting to convey complex thought using the dash.

    For example, with the everyone was dead-sick-gone line.

    If someone had once had a dozen aunts and uncles, but now 7 of them are dead, 4 of them are sick to the point of being absent mentally, and the last one is gone because he cut all family ties, and someone asks you about your aunts and uncles. All of that information might pour into your head at once and rather than mentally going through each one you'd just have a general impression that all of them were some variation on dead, sick, or gone.

    They were all dead-sick-gone is a lazy way of conveying that, I think, without actually having to unpack the thoughts of the character.

    Or maybe it was a formatting issue. /shrug.
     
  8. LucyInTheSkye

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    This fic has updated again in the past week, so hopefully it's still alright to review it.

    I really like it despite the big glaring flaw of its pacing (which, going by the author's notes, is done like this on purpose). It's got great characterisation as well as characterisation that aligns with canon and when applicable happens to align with my personal idea of what these people are like. It's very much character-driven; however, I also like what we have of the plot so far. There's several mysteries buried in the story (the memory thing and the sleeping curse and the deaths at St Mungo's) and it seems as though the author has a solid plan at least for the memory/pensieve issue Harry is suffering from.

    Harry feels a lot like his canon self, although the slow pace isn't a completely natural fit with his personality. I've noticed that some of the Regulus-centric fics out there are also very slow-paced and I think he is much better suited for the introspective, thought-monologuey ways of this fic than Harry. Because of how slow the fic gets when it's just Harry or Regulus or the two of them together, I vastly prefer it when there are other characters present. The speed picks up and there's a lot of comic relief and interesting magic and mild relationship drama when any of the other cast are present.

    Concerning the ohters, I think Marlene, Caradoc and James and Lily are particularly well done. Dorcas I'd like to see more of and Sirius I don't feel I have a proper grasp of yet in this fic, despite how much time he's gotten in the last few chapters. He feels protective of Regulus and that's all there is to him. Marlene, on the other hand, is such a good character that I could very easily see her as a JKR creation, she fits and adds perfectly to this world.

    I really like what this fic does with divination and with cursed objects. It's not overbearing on the story, but it gives great insight into magical life; how these things are normal, everyday things for all the characters (except Harry). It's just enough world-building to be in keeping with canon but still add something new.

    Language-wise, I haven't noticed many issues at all. It's easy to read and the dialogue is excellent when there are more characters than just Harry and Regulus involved. There's an overuse of ellipsis, which annoys me whenever the pace slows down, but that's about it.

    It ticks most boxes for me and therefore I'd give it a 4/5.
     
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