Newcomb what're your quick feelings about Manasi and Fluff wagons?

 

Oh, I’m dumb, Hunter is triggered.

 

Ask again later when I'm in a better headspace.

 

What does this mean?

 

Okay, I'm gonna try not to tinfoil.

Are we doing a Hunter claim for accountability purposes or nah.
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It's a role. Newcomb's survival triggered it.

 

Okay.

I was joking about the Shadow thing!

I hope you know that!

I loved the Shadow case and we can still kill him any time!

 

We can force it later if needed, imo.

 

Oh. The way you said it made it seem like it was relevant to the current discussion.

 

I mean it's kiiinda something that should be talked about before Night?

I've forgotten like all the WH meta.

 

In the world that Jari was a hit, I don't think I would want to lynch fluff any time soon. I don't think Kai would have bussed that way, and fonti probably would have done more to try to save him. Those three would probably be my least likely partners on his wagon, Newcomb aside.
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Spoiler

 

Wait why not fluff?

 

Because he helped secure the wagon at a point when it could have easily swung towards shadow. It would be less indicative if he was with both shadow/Jari but I don't think he would have been as useless all day if both his partners were on the chopping block.

 

I feel like that's wrong and that fluff voted Jari very late (8th vote, I think it was) Am I forgetting something dumb?
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Btw I want to requote these two instances of Shadow talking about Jari:

This was after I called out Jari's vote switch from Shadow to Vaimes

I don't think Shadow's posts make any sense here. There is absolutely no reason to think that Jari and Vaimes are w/w when Jari moves off Shadow onto Vaimes.

Shadow tries to justify it by saying that Jari may have been too scared to stay on Shadow. No way, no one would be scared to keep their vote on Shadow. Jari was perfectly set up to do so.

So to me, it feels like if Jari is scum, it really is with Shadow, considering Shadow shades Jari here but ultimately doesn't vote Jari, and in fact stays on Vaimes alongside Jari without even considering the fact that they make no sense as w/w.

And Shadow only does this in reaction to someone else pointing it out, it's not even proactive solving.

 

960 @12:51
jarizok (5) - kaiDASH, gemma, dels, vaimes, m+7
xshadowlancerx (4) - newcomb, fonti, fluff, umami

966 @12:52
jarizok (6) - kaiDASH, gemma, dels, vaimes, m+7, fonti
xshadowlancerx (3) - newcomb, fluff, umami

983 @12:57
jarizok (7) - kaiDASH, gemma, dels, vaimes, m+7, fonti, fluff
xshadowlancerx (2) - newcomb, umami
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Soft-lynch was 8, btw.

 

What am I not understanding then? Fluff voted at a point where Jari was already the clear leader.

 

Pretty sure I was the one who made sure Jari would get lynched, yeah. Fluff got on the wagon after it was pretty much a sure thing.

 

No, it was 5-4 and fonti wanted shadow over Jari.

fluff had no incentive to vote other than to secure a lynch. He did nothing to prevent Jari's lynch or to encourage shadow over Jari.

 

Babe, he voted when it was 6-3. That's very different.

 

Fonti sametime what we found weird in Muz's QT comments?

 

It was only 6-3 because you moved off the shadow wagon, is what I am saying.