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Quid Pro Quill - Feedback for Feedback

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by TheWiseTomato, Aug 14, 2018.

  1. TheWiseTomato

    TheWiseTomato Prestigious Tomato ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    We've all been there. You post new words in the WbA, piping hot and fresh off the press...and then they just sit there, languishing in wait for a considered response. A lot of work has been done to promote activity recently, and the WbA has picked up a bit, but we are greedy fuckers and more feedback is always better.

    So. To that end, this thread is a place where authors can put their hands up to provide a quid pro quo service to other authors for feedback and critique. You do me, I do you. Ideally, the two authors would have posts of vaguely similar lengths to comment on, but the details of the exchange would be down to them to figure out. I certainly wouldn't expect someone to read and critique my 120k fic in exchange for a response to a 3k post.

    To keep things somewhat orderly, we'd all follow the same basic template. I'm thinking something like:

    • Name of the fic and fandom
    • Link to the post
    • Details of the post, such as word count
    • Short overview of what the author wants, in particular the type or focus of feedback

    After seeing a post, interested responders chasing feedback of their own would @ the original poster and they'd hash out the details. With any luck, this will encourage people to comment on fics they otherwise might not have, motivated by self interest if nothing else.

    One thing I want to mention - if you were going to provide feedback anyway, don't be a twat and hold it back trying to extort some feedback for yourself. 1, that goes against the entire spirit of the WbA forum, and 2, it's a dick move. Don't be making dick moves.


    I'll start things off with a request of my own.

    • Fic details: Rise - Fable (videogame)
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    • Post details: The post is the latest of an ongoing arc, and is just under 4k words.
    • Feedback details: What I'm looking for is thoughts on the way the conflict played out, in particular how characters reacted to the situation they found themselves in, and the way character dynamics played out during it.
     
  2. Otters

    Otters Groundskeeper ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Bam. Posted.

    The particular feedback I was looking for isn't really relevant until I finish rewriting this thing, so I'll hold off on making a request for now. Happy to give feedback to others - the more specific your question is, the more helpful I'll probably be.
     
  3. TheWiseTomato

    TheWiseTomato Prestigious Tomato ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    In that case, @ me in this thread when you finish; consider this an IOU.
     
  4. Halt

    Halt 1/3 of the Note Bros. Moderator

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    Cool idea, sign me up for one of them QPQs, Wize.
    • Fic details: Gamecraft (Warcraft Gamer fic, Arthas centric)
    • FFN Link
    • Post details: First chapter of an otherwise unremarkable story. About 3k words I think.
    • Feedback details: Shit on it.
    I'll get to posting on Fable sometime this week (to give myself some time to read it)
     
  5. TheWiseTomato

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    @Halt easy done. You want the feedback in a ffnet review?
     
  6. Zombie

    Zombie Black Philip Moderator DLP Supporter

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    I'll drop something on Rise in a bit.

    Consider this payback for services already rendered.
     
  7. Halt

    Halt 1/3 of the Note Bros. Moderator

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    Or even like over IRC is fine tbh. I'm not really looking for a line-by-line (although if something is particularly bad do point it out), but more of general thoughts. Was it interesting, was the MC compelling enough to read about, did it feel aimless
     
  8. Otters

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    Anyone who fancies giving me some feedback, here's my requisition order:
    • Fic details: Druid of Holly and Yew - Harry Potter AU
    • Link (WBA)
    • Post details: Still fairly early on in the story. This is Harry's first morning at Hogwarts. About 1500 words.
    • Feedback details: I'm mostly interested in finding out if the staff members appear to be in character - mostly Snape, but also Hagrid. General thoughts on the post are welcome, but my biggest concern is whether you think I've handled Snape right.
     
  9. TheWiseTomato

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    I'll take that up as payback for your thoughts on Rise.
     
  10. Zombie

    Zombie Black Philip Moderator DLP Supporter

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    I'll bite. You can read The Revenge of Harry Potter (Link). I'll have your response up soon enough.
     
  11. Conquistador

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    Fic Name: The Mystical Pursuit
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    Post Details: 2nd Chapter of this story, 1.9k words. If you want, the first chapter on this same page is like 1.8k words for context.
    Feedback Details: Just looking for if this hooks you in, if you would read more. What to change to hook people in. I would also like some people to check if my tensing/perspective is decent.
     
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  13. Halt

    Halt 1/3 of the Note Bros. Moderator

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    I posted on your thread.

    Quid Pro Quo - Feedback for Feedback

    We should have named this Quid Pro Quill.

    Missed opportunity, that.

    @Wize Ninja'd :3
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2018
  14. Sorrows

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    I've added a bit more to Anticlockwise to finish up the third chapter so I'd love a bit of feedback. I mostly want to know if Hermione feels authentic and sympathetic. Chapter 3 I am particularly worried about, it was written in three distinct chunks and I'm worried it doesn't hang together as a piece and might have tonal/pacing problems. Also how well the various bits of bread-crumbing and relationship building is working, are they drawing people in and what theories are people forming? I want to know if I'm directing people's attention in the ways I mean too. Technical stuff is of a lesser concern but if you spot some by all means. Theres bound to be loads.

    From the beginning (Maybe 30,000ish total)
    Latest chapter (3) (10ish)
    Latest Bit (<5000w)

    @Seratin tin and @Halt I'd be happy to look at yours along with anyone else who wants to swap reviews.
     
  15. Halt

    Halt 1/3 of the Note Bros. Moderator

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    I'm game.

    If you don't read Warcraft, you can also look at my Harry Potter AU thing if that's more your jam.

    What Wicked Warthings (WBA)or Gdoc all told, about 17k words?
    Latest chapter here is about 4k words

    Whichever you prefer really.

    As for what I'm looking for, it's more about if the story's compelling? Does it hook you as a reader who knows nothing (or little) about RWBY (because ultimately that's my target audience).
     
  16. Sorrows

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    Woot!

    On the technical side any patterns of mistakes would be good to know about.

    I can definitely give you a review from the point of view of someone who only has a wilkipedia's page worth of knowledge about RWBY.
     
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  18. Halt

    Halt 1/3 of the Note Bros. Moderator

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    Cool. You want the feedback here or in your WBA?

    I'll take a look at it and let's say you owe me one or something.
     
  19. Sorrows

    Sorrows Queen of the Flamingos Moderator

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    A review on WBA is always a nice bump @Halt.

    If it is easier to edit or comment as you go this is my Google Docs of the latest draft including some stuff I've not uploaded into the WBA version yet (no spoilers) : Google Docs: Anticlockwise.

    Anyone who wants to have a bash at it is welcome, I'm happy to return in kind.
     
  20. Archinist

    Archinist Hαn Sαlsæd First

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    Fic name: The Driftwood Lord
    Link: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13326509/1/The-Driftwood-Lord
    Post details: I'm being very anal about writing chapter three. I have a rough outline of the plot and I'm trying to incorporate the MICE quotient into the fic, but I'm very insecure about flaws. I just don't think I'm great at revisions, and I haven't had any chapters beta-ed yet. Generally, just please point out things that seem off to you. Be it story flow, OOCness, etc. Suggestions would be nice too, but beggars can't be choosers. Currently at 5.5k words.

    If you can, please leave the review on Fanfiction.net.
     
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