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Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory Mafia

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. tom

    tom First Year

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    Old cat was really great too though. Me and yog were s
    No the specific reason was that he shaded me for ignoring tammy when id ignored <everyone>
    Turns out he meant because she voted me. Which is still silly since rvs vote but. Im over it.

    No not currently scumreading anyone
     
  2. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Hungry for apples?
    P.S. This link is useful to following terms you're not familiar with if you're new or haven't played in forever.

    @Eidolonic VC, please?
     
  3. tom

    tom First Year

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    Jari (2): Cobalt, cerber
    Tom (2): Tammy, mendel
    Terraine (2): sloth, fluff
    Fluff (1): poof
    Keldeo (1): jari

    Not Voting (3): Keldeo, TerRaine, tom
     
  4. TerRaine

    TerRaine Squib

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    Better?
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    going running soon. If there's anything people want me to answer @ me after this post and I'll address after
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    ....every time. Why every single time -_-
     
  5. tom

    tom First Year

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    Sorry. Got it now
     
  6. TerRaine

    TerRaine Squib

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    Sorry mostly joking. It happens pretty much every time I open my mouth online.
     
  7. Tammy

    Tammy First Year

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    I knew it! Okay I thought it. I might understand? I was gonna say she because it felt more right but didn’t want to offend, so sorry if I went the other way.

    Yog’s a hard one to catch Tom. And I’m not gonna read that game. Though. Going in knowing your alignment could set off how I believe I know how to Read you and I’d rather not introduce more indecision than I already have before it’s necessary.

    sloth - I’ll respond to you when I’m not in a bar on my phone
     
  8. tom

    tom First Year

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    I get it.
    People on the internet always assume im not <14 ferrets in a trenchcoat>
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    Me and yog were both wolves it was awesome.

    We quickhammered wolfthingyman ftw (they needed to lynch wolf kp)
     
  9. Eidolonic

    Eidolonic Supreme Mugwump

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    Jarizok (2): Cobalt, CerberAsta
    TerRaine (2): Sloth, His Fluffiness
    Tom (2): Tammy, Mendel
    His Fluffiness (1): Empoof
    Keldeo (1): Jarizok

    Not Voting (3): Keldeo, TerRaine, Tom

    With 11 alive, it is 6 to soft lynch, 9 to hard lynch.

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    2) Please color and preferably bold your votes on a new line when making them.
     
  10. Mendel

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    Ok. I didn't want to be too aggressive onto CerberAsta, so I stuck with the one question I still have to get answer for (I think), but that townread of me is a) somewhat illogical as is the b) scum read on tom whom I am scumreading. Like, it reads as a clumsy attempt to pocket me (make me fond of them), which I would not expect a savvy wolf to do, but I have absolutely no experience playing with beginner wolves. (And would they have posted a reads list without checking with their mate?)
    I'll have to check who townread Asta off that (was it you?) because from the premise of "accusing players a lot, getting discussion going = scum", I ought to have been scumread.

    I guess that's fair, since my answer to sloth can be read as a hedging defense.
    Gotta hope he flips town, then! ;p
    (just kidding, re-evaluate all you want)

    Was the first question directed at me?

    TerRaine entered the thread relating how they had hosted a game, so I was trying to get them into a convo asking a question that would profit from a host perspective, and also related to this game. Just a basic opener.
    Personally, I can't remember having played a double scum game before, so that was also an actual question on my mind. You never know what you might get from an answer.

    Ok, at first I thought this was you pocketing me, and then I remembered that I followed you on your tom vote, so now I'm confused. But I'm still fairly happy sheeping you, at the moment, anyway.

    I used it a few sentences before, it stands for Low Hanging Fruit. Easy lynches, or rather, easily lynchable players. Many understand them as low posters, but I also include low-confidence players, those who seem defenseless.

    I'd not be surprised if he flipped either way.
    See, my problem with LHF is that they're hard to read.
    He was going for me in that weird "don't look me in the eye" way, like when he asked if anyone else had played with me, and I don't understand the intent behind that yet.
    I think my gut feeling is townish, but a lot of that is also caused by the votes on him that I didnt understand.
    I just logged on to catch up and answer questions, this answer may change once I re-read him.

    And I resent you for making me answer a "gun to head" at this stage of the game. It sucks, because it feels you're trying to nail me down to something that clearly isnt nailed down in my mind, shouldnt be nailed down in my mind, and would take effort to properly answer that I have no time to invest right now. Why are you pushing me? I see you inoffensively slither through the thread, why did you choose to offend me?
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    I hate this. I hate Sloth's posting style where he plays his cards close to his chest, explains nothing, and tries to control everyone else with questions. You severely ping my antiauthoritarian streak, and I wonder why you are trying to assert thread control. Do you think that's healthy for town?
     
  11. Cobalt

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    This feels super organic and towny.

    Oh look, a read.
     
  12. tom

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    Wait what are you sheeping?
     
  13. Fluffiness

    Fluffiness DA Member

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    Was that sarcastic?
     
  14. TerRaine

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  15. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    @TerRaine

    Hm... Have yet to meet a ferret that wasn't Town...
    I tried to read your game - 36 players? Holy Christ. I think I'll just shoot at the dark and learn your style as I go.


    Your train of thought is always difficult for me to follow - are you...explaining why you could be scum with Asta here?
    Huh. "Inoffensively slither" - I like that choice word btw, makes me sound very sinister and gives a much-needed insight into your thoughts.
    Still, I don't think of my style as that, and given what you later say neither do you: I've been running around pushing and clashing with literally everyone, testing for chinks in their armors. It just happened to be your turn.
    The reason I do this is exactly what you said you do earlier: It's a basic opener, and you never know what you might get.
    Right. Okay, this feels genuine, not AtE, so: Truly, I'm sorry if I upset you or if it seems to you I'm trying to control or something. That's not my intention, I'm just playing the game. Again, I really am sorry if you're legitimately upset.
    That said, I'm honestly not trying to control anyone with questions. I'm trying to ask questions, get them answer, and hopefully paint a picture in my head so I know who's scum. I have very vague thoughts and leanings, but nothing worth sharing because nothing solid - my vote is where it is and I'm comfortable with it there for now. Why? Look at my interactions and questions of Ter.
    Is this healthy for town? Yeah of course. I'm trying to figure out the game and until I have something worth sharing, I'm not going to confuse the picture with ill-formed musings.
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    Whether it is or isn't, what would you do with that information, seriously?
     
  16. tom

    tom First Year

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    Sloth do you think mendel's annoyance with you makes him town?

    Also why arent you trying to control anyone?
     
  17. Cobalt

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    That was a real read followed by a self-deprecating remark acknowledging the fact that I’ve been slacking.
     
  18. TerRaine

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    Baiting me to get defensive when the whole post bringing Tom's scummy acts is in itself pressing him. Struck me as a lazy scum hunt against me.
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    @Cobalt have you played multi scum team games before?
     
  19. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Hungry for apples?
    Annoyance is genuine, NAI (did I use that right?)
    I think Mendel's town for unrelated reasons.
    Ugh, all my friends say that if I start controlling people I'd be a very dangerous cult leader and I do NOT want to go down that road again...oh, wait, you probably mean in game.
    I mean, you tell me - why would I need to control anyone? Find scum, present case, vote scum. Not really much need for control here.
    For you: As town, why would there be a need to control anyone?



    You didn't ask nor press - and this tells me something else: Based on recent developments, has your read changed at all?


    @Empoof your vote hasn't changed from #4, and you did list fluff as scum-lean on #102. Do you have a basis for this? Any leanings on partners?
     
  20. tom

    tom First Year

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    I mean...

    Convincing people to vote your scumreads is controlling them.
    Making people not want to lynch you is controlling them.

    Why would you forego strategy just because you dont have inside information?
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    Anyway, why i asked:
    I think mendel's opinion on sloth IS genuine.
    But i think it actively lacks an actual read.

    If he feels like hes being controlled, why dont i see any sign he thinks it might be a wolf?
    Feels off to me
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    Don't think i want to vote there again I'm already pretty convinced mendel and I are just... coming from different places i guess but
    Yeah