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Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory Mafia

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. Mendel

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    Once the votes were in, I was glued on the edge of my seat for the quarter hour it took for Eidolonic to post, because you're never ever really certain on a lynch until it flips. But the feeling after that is why playing mafia is great: seeing the player I pushed flipped scum was amazing! I'm really happy that my whole town core joined me on this, and it's making me feel good about this game! We're going to want to sort tom today, and hopefully we can find another mafia!
     
  2. CerberAsta

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    Alright well, I'm curious about Tom, but I'll wait and see what his response to the lie call-out is. I have a little bit of a better idea of towncore but still not swearing to anything since we do have two teams so scum are hunting scum (and very likely one if not both of them voted Sloth).

    Fluff and Cobalt are both still on my scum radar, but Day 2 is gonna be VERY different in tone and god knows I hadn't the foggiest on Sloth so who knows what the shakeout is gonna be
     
  3. Mendel

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    Run me through that, please. Because of your vote?
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    Ok, so,
    a) you are not voting Tom. How serious are you?
    b) I see a disagreement over whether Cobalt would have been motivated to play with Sloth as partner, which is speculation, from my point of view. Like, I can see that if Tom thinks that, it makes him convinced that might have happened, but much more likely it's simply bias.
    c) What is the lie?
    d) I am more concerned about Tom trying to break up the town core by attacking Empoof.
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    And I dislike you, TerRaine, ignoring my systematic approach that I prepared overnight, in favor of shouting at me to immediately lynch Tom.
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    You almost lynched his fluffiness yesterday, do you still want to lynch them today?
     
  4. TerRaine

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    I'm quite serious. I don't want to throw out a vote a few hours into the day because I'd like to talk my point through more.

    Half of Tom's argument is a scenario that literally has not happened. He's saying Cobalt's activity is low as scum when he doesn't have teammates. Ok? And? In his scenario of Cobalt being scum....he had a teammate D1. So its casting shade over a player for something that has not happened and only MIGHT happen.

    This. This is a lie. I already explained why.
     
  5. Mendel

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    This is the "lie", yes?
    Cobalt's last two posts on D1 were #157 and #305. My vote on Sloth is #244, Tom voted in #245, Keldeo briefly voted Sloth in #281 and switched to Cerber two posts later, so from our perspective this was a "forming" wagon, although Cobalt would not have noticed that if they're town and just popped into the thread without reading it.
    If Cobalt is Sloth's buddy, then of course they would have known, and could have acted pretty much as they did to further scum strategy. We don't know.
     
  6. TerRaine

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    You won't be the first or last to dislike me I promise. I'll make peace with it in my own way

    Pah. Don't be histrionic no one is shouting at you to immediately lynch Tom.

    What I am doing is telling you that you're getting too hung up in your prep work and its making you blind to actively scummy things occurring right in front of you

    I had a vote on fluff yes. I would like to see where his actions take him today. Until then I'm going to table it and look at what's occurring in real time around me
     
  7. Mendel

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    You can do both. Your vote is not locked, you can change it later. I don't think we'll get 8 votes anytime soon.
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    Doing one thing after the other is not "getting hung up". You were expecting me to drop all my prep and "call out" Tom right away. I have been writing non-stop since I came here today, your pushiness seems misplaced.
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    The thing occurring "in real time" is me posting my prep work. I haven't seen you react to it yet. Don't get "hung up" on Tom, please. We need to depose 3 more mafia.
     
  8. Fluffiness

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    Mendel, what are your thoughts on Jarizok?
     
  9. Mendel

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    He's probably not Sloth's buddy. Do you want to lynch him today?
     
  10. Fluffiness

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    I was just wondering why you were speculating he is town.

    He is definitely on my to lynch shortlist.
     
  11. TerRaine

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    Why do you feel Jarizok not town Fluff?
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    They're both occurring in real time but fair enough. All I am saying it you should be concerned that the other person currently pushing your 1st potential buddy list for Sloth is throwing out imaginary reasoning. Yes another person calling out BS doesn't negate your conclusion....but it should make you suspicious of that person.
     
  12. Mendel

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    Why? I've just looked at his posts, they don't seem that remarkable.

    I also looked at him and sloth in my sloth file (which admittedly only goes up to 257), and there weren't any interactions that stood out, except Sloth asking him a random question about some tournament.

    I'm speculating that Jarizok is town, because he is IF the following conditions are true:
    a) TerRaine/Jarizok was Sloth's best guess at the other scum team
    b) Sloth's partner went with this guess (they might have modified it because of the votes)
    c) Sloth's partner was afraid to shoot at TerRaine last night, because they might be watched

    I have a hard time evaluating how likely my own scenarios are, so I'm throwing that out there for someone like you to tell me if you think one of these conditions is unlikely. It's probably a long shot.
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    Yeah, but if Tom is on the other scum team, Cobalt can still be scum, can't he?
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    EBWOP *they
     
  13. TerRaine

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    Indeed very possible. Like I said. My discomfort lies in pushing for Cobalt this early with so little info due to his lack of activity when there are others who are about and acting or have acted scummy (not just saying Tom here)
     
  14. Tammy

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    At work so not really here, but Mendel I’m confused on a couple of your posts. In a recent and earlier one it seems Like you’re positing that terrain and/or Jarizok are town because they’re alive, but the first two night kills are bp so there wouldn’t have been any kills last night.

    why does them being alive maybe make them town?

    or am I misunderstanding something?
     
  15. Fluffiness

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    Hes saying that scum probably shot them, therefore they're town.

    Why he would think that, idk.
     
  16. TerRaine

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    god I keep forgetting to @ people.

    @his fluffiness
    Like he said...if Sloth honestly believed I was scum his partner taking me out would remove at least 1 of the people able to kill them at N2. If they take out 1/2 of the opposing scum faction AND get a lynch today they'd be safe N2. Ergo they shoot at me only to find out Sloth sucks at reading me and I'm Town.

    Then again like he says the other scenario is they don't want to risk being see shooting me by Bucket and would prefer to rely on lynch to remove opposing scum.
     
  17. Tammy

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    But they couldn’t take out anybody last night because the first two attempted kills live.
     
  18. TerRaine

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    Only if they're Town
     
  19. Tammy

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  20. Fluffiness

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    All the town roles have bullet proof in their descriptions, none of the scum roles do.