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Hey Rhand, that actually sounds really fun!

Also, to answer your question, it's actually mostly strong gut at this point -- based on a combination of his intense transparency, genuine continued attempts to solve the game, etc. I'll admit I don't have a strong handle on tom's scum range, but I've not seen much room for agenda at least without doing any investigation.

 

Hey! I'm here now!

 

I wasn't saying that Seratin's alignment depends on them. I was saying that Seratin's alignment gives ideas to their alignments.

The main two are Grapefruit and MP7. The former is already scummy to me, but that read is cemented if Seratin is scum. MP7 is townie to me, and even more so if Seratin is scum.

 

fire's first two posts seemed really pure to me. He basically slowly flowed down my list as the day progressed with more I liked from other people and less content from him, until he was basically in my lowest pile. I kept wanting to find something in his posts that I could hinge an entire townread on but didn't really find anything, and his last post was kind of consensus, and in that way a bit opportunistic - Miner's read on that made sense to me. There's so little to go on that I don't want to try to read his slot off his posts.

 

I wasn't so much town reading them (I'm sort of town reading Seratin) it was more that I'm actively suspecting multiple in his hard town pile.

 

Why those associations, Osie?

Be back in a little bit.

 

Opportunistic? Why are you so worried about reads on you? Like, you're not even worrying about VOTES on you, just reads. That's really sketchy. I'm not voting for you. I'm not even pushing you particularly hard. And nobody else is pushing you in particular at all. And yet you're responding to me very directly. This is the same pattern as happened with Rhand, though at least in his case, he was voting for you. I think you have some decent posts here and there, but your defensiveness makes it nigh impossible to remove you from the PoE.

 

Like what makes you think that. I see the somewhat obvious was defending/pushing idea but I want to hear more about your reasoning.

 

The first one seems easy enough (I actively defended Seratin for his entrance to the thread today).
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Ohhh derp.

 

I had been slight town reading her for a portion of the phase, but it was once I started deep digging into her ISO that I really started changing my mind. I will happily go into greater detail if you want later, but I'm going to selfishly prioritize catching up, lol.

 

I'd rank these 7 something like Waco>>Tom>Sloth>Cuth> Rhand>>>>>>>Miner>>Keldeo

 

First: Grapefruit scumlean - Grapefruit's fluffy and worn around the edges here. I think that he's coasting to a significant degree, and I don't like it.

Grapefruit in regards to Seratin defends Seratin while leaving him open. That's a bad sign. His reads on slots I find townie are weak and fence-sitty. His tom progression doesn't look like the general uncertainty that I've had throughout. It feels like at some point he decided that he should switch from a scumread to a townread. This also is a good look for tom in my book.
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Wait, and now you're hard scumreading Tom again?

 

Why didnt you ask when i said it?
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Does this mean those reads change the other way if seratin is town?
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Considering he's voting keldeo, i do believe you have that backwards

 

@Sloth: You said that "immediately after [post 26] are the aggression questions."

Immediately after post 26 are:

#36 - Asking for explanation (softly). Less aggressive than previous posts. Also lots of fluff around it.
#38 - This post is just more fluff.
#56 - You are specifically worried about reads on you. The tone of this post: "I'm not being aggressive!" directly contradicts your later post to Rhand.
#67 - You expand the soft question to another player because they agree with tom's read.

I think I need to look at your interactions with my active scumreads, but my read on you is pretty much at a scumlean in the less scummy part of the POE. A scumlean that doesn't work well with my current thought of what the team is, but I'm not confident enough on the worldbuilding part to move that scumlean to a townlean.

 

Nah, tom and waco are the town side.

 

No, it means I have to reconsider things if Seratin is town. I still scumlean Grapefruit and townlean MP7 at the moment regardless, and I think that the reads are just made more certain if Seratin is scum.

Ah. I see. That's probably correct. Oops.

 

Yes, opportunistic.
I dont think this makes you scum aorn

But if you are

My read on your read there... especially because it doesnt come with a vote... is very much opportunism.
Its why sloth/rhand are v/v if youre a wolf.

 

Okay, that makes more sense. Though I firmly disagree with strongest scumreads being on Miner, Keldeo, or Rhand. Those are roughly my strongest townreads.

 

...wait what? You are voting for me. It was your first post after Rhand posted his case? Indicated it was based on it, which is what I've been pressing you on? Because it's highly opportunistic?

...what the hell?

You're also assuming a lot by thinking I'm pressing you on it out of worry. Of course I care about your read. I want to see if it's legitimate. My point is that it's not.

 

I was voting him. Then I reevaluated and decided that Seratin was a better vote. I'm still trying to evaluate sloth.