@Osieorb18 Do they though?

 

Man, if you're legitimately trying to read me based on 15 minutes of analysis, then you're the most arrogant town player I've ever met across about 10 sites.

I just don't believe it.

Vote: Cuthalion

 

Hi im definitely more arrogant than that sometimes
And so are you frankly

 

I must be in an alternate reality to most of the rest of you all, because my gut says Keldeo has been consistently the towniest player in this game.

He's consistently pushing the thread forward, asking questions, etc. I actually had a similar concern to some of you that his questions weren't leading into his reads, but every instance of reads lists and/or just stated long-form reads statements thereafter have made logical sense to me.

His EOD progression genuinely reads like someone who was torn between Miner and Umami.

So either I'm getting something actually townie here, or I'm wrong and you're all onto something that I can't catch because of a blind spot. I still really think it's the former. I'm reminded of Champs WC1 when I was the only one strong town reading abyssum and no one else in the thread could see it, and it was hard to explain to anyone else in large part because I could see into their head so clearly. That's how I feel with Keldeo.

 

Out of anyone on my wagon, his push is the only one that feels entirely fake and unjustified. Tom has legitimate suspicion of me that appears to stem (albeit somewhat indirectly) from my lack of engagement prior to today. Sloth and I had a large back and forth in which I was trying to sort him and he was trying to sort me, and it looks like he hasn't gotten there in the same way that I did. Keldeo had actually been trying to engage with me as well.

 

@Osieorb18 Chat to me for a second. How would you expect a random townie to read you here? Through no fault of your own you're in the PoE and you're posting reads on the fly. Do you expect people to not read into that when it's the extent of your track record here?

 

It's not like I haven't been in the game the entire time? If you'd started wildly contradicting yourself earlier (not that that's inherently wolfy) I probably would have put pressure on you earlier. I'm sorry if you weren't expecting to be pushed here, and I don't imagine it's loads of fun, but acting like it's inconceivable for someone to call you out isn't going to help much. If you really want to convince me, talk me through how your reads progressed and show how you're not just making things up out of whole cloth.

 

Cuthalion, meanwhile, has intentionally misrepresented me and is jumping on the wagon as it starts to gain steam since he thinks I'm an easy mislynch.

 

This post, for example. This is absolutely a townie post. I can't see why scum Keldeo says this. I feel like I can point to a lot of his posts across both day phases and say this. It's just evident to me.

I also don't understand why multiple people are confused about his progression of read on fire. It's been clear to me since the beginning.

 

Huh.
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I mean, I don't care about being pushed. But I'm going to read into why people are pushing me, and so far your reasoning for pushing me is the only one that's absolute garbage.

 

Osie's reaction to all of this has not been "oops i misspoke" or "yes that was a vote on a neutral read i sometimes do that but that read changed because x" it's just been "you must be a wolf, then, you lying fiend". If he's a villager and we lynch him, I'll have a hard time feeling bad.

 

I do not.

I am shrug lynching you

 

What do you think of Waco? I can't recall off the top of my head.

 

Then please, tell me why I'm misinterpreting your posts instead of flipping out and saying you never contradicted yourself.

 

I mean, I thought about that, but I usually spend more than 15 minutes constructing reads, and it's not while hopping onto a wagon like Cuthalion did here.

 

I agree that these are problematic. I've been trying to make sense of Osi all game, and I'm mostly just been left confused about reads progressions.

I'm still going to ISO them, but I haven't gotten around to it yet because then I'll fall behind on the thread and I don't want to do that, lol.
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Why does it matter how much time is spent on a read? A read is a read, regardless of the amount of time it took to generate one. What do you think GTH reads are?

This is one of the strangest accusations I've ever heard.

 

Reading into me having more activity today? I mean, sure. But my higher activity started BEFORE I was POE'd. My reads are (I believe, maybe this is a perception bias) BEFORE I was POE'd. And I'm still looking at people. I refuse to go down without having firm reads on the people who are mislynching me.

 

You cant see why scum would say that?
Like, i cant even think of a way in which that post is AI.
Its explaining progression or faking same.

 

See I feel like that's the consensus and I'm on the outside suspecting him.

I'm not particularly swayed by longer posts. They aren't bad but he's missing consistent impact and presence. And it feels like the questions are covering for that. He's rather charming/charismatic so I feel like he's coasting (relatively coasting anyway. His effort is much higher than mine) with limited engagement and big posts to cover for it.

I can see where you're coming from on the EoD but I don't see it alone as clearing. He ended up voting a townie when he'd been pretty strongly on the unknown beforehand. The posts are pretty but the result is meh.

 

There's a really big difference between "not specifically paying attention to or reading a slot because you have no prior experience with them until you see warning lights going off" and "ignoring them for most of two days before you realise that hey you want to lynch them at the last moment just dig up some random accusations".