@Sloth

What on earth does the bolded mean here
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My first impression from Sloth's ISO is that he asks a lot of questions maybe to appear to be doing things, but doesn't really follow up on them much.

 

@Cobalt You're reading my response wrong.

...Also it means that tom called them scum? ....what else could it mean?

 

This post is still weird.
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But I don't know if he's really the kind of person to call for a shot on him as a wolf (part of me does really want the "if someone has to get shot it should be me" read i made earlier to be true but ehh).
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And sloth/Grape are almost certainly not w/w just based on wagons.

 

Oh.

Never mind.

I read it totally wrong.
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Talk to me more about Grape cuth.

 

I think the most relevant stretch wrt Grape/Sloth alignment is EoD2-- ~4 hours beforehand, grape posts a readslist with sloth in the third highest spot, then in the course of eod votes sloth (rhand's already there and other people aren't really against it so it's a legitimate wagon), and sloth gets upset about the reversal and calls grape out and fumes at him the rest of the day and into d3. My thing is this: that only really makes sense if they agree to a bussing strategy spur of the moment-- it's a super obvious thing to do otherwise. If that had been their plan going into EoD I'd assume grape would make it look more natural/less contrasting, and nothing really shifted over that section of time that would suddenly make bussing necessary, if it even was in the first place?

Plus as per above Grape was saying "you guys should probably shoot me if a villager has to get shot might as well be me", which'd take a bit more chutzpah than I think Grape would have as a wolf here.

 

Deadline is 2AM for me by the way, I won’t be around most probably.

@Sloth: you want me to take the lead but you asked miner if he would let the gunshot be up to a vote.
We’re both confirmed town. What’s the difference?

If Sloth flips mafia, take a good look at Fluff please. Using a buddy to place a nowhere-vote really is a typical thing to do.
(I’m pretty sure I’m not seeing toMorrow)

 

Tell me more? (@ all people on Sloth) I... don’t understand

 

@Keldeo I sort of mentioned it a bit in my following post.

 

Huh? Why does that make them town to you?

Who is mafia?
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I read that post. Is it just the fakeness? Do you have any opinion on his earlier stuff?

 

That post I made about Sloth's ISO pretty much held up when I skimmed the rest of it.

In fact

Vote: Sloth

 

I thought Cuth made that post about his ISO... I’m going to come back to the thread.

Cobalt, have you got any other reads?

 

I like M Plus but that might be because he's echoing me.

 

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to conclude from this.​

Votecount 3.2

Sloth (4): Rhand, M Plus 7, Cuthalion, Cobalt

Abstaining (5): Sloth, Keldeo, Grapefruit21, The Waco Kid, Fluffiness

With 9 alive, soft lynch is 5 and hard lynch is 7.

Deadline is here; about ~5 hours remain.

 

sorry about that, had to attend to some things, I should be here for most of the time until EoD now.
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Hey @Cuthalion

Does Rhand's flip affect any of these reads at all?

 

Sloth / Waco / Fluff / Cuthalion

3 out of those 4 I think.

 

I...am trying not to be an ass here in response.
Ok, I like Miner as a person, but I don't remember him as a particularly strong player, and certainly not one whose reads I trust so :shrug: anything else I can say here would just be mean.
I'm not looking to shade him, it just is what it is. I don't think he considers himself a leader either? But can't speak for him.

As for you, I've seen your play enough that I would follow your lead in these circumstances if you weren't wrong. Ftr, not looking to pocket you either, I honestly don't think that anything I say will convince you since I still maintain that your case was pretty much destroyed by 841, and if that didn't convince you, not sure what I else I can say to change that. Seems like a wasted effort when instead I can work on a legacy for when I flip. (Which is what I'm doing now.)

@Keldeo I said it didn't make them scum, not that it made them town. The things people were saying on fire weren't scummy, they were just weird. And rhand being wrong doesn't mean he's scum, it just means he's wrong.
I wasn't townreading fire, but I wasn't scumreading him. And I was soft-townreading rhand - hence, no surprise there.

Ping me other questions if you have them, but I mostly want to leave a good legacy, pretty sure I'm the flip.

@M Plus 7 still waiting for your answer.

 

I didn't say it would benefit you as scum; I just think it's more indicative of a scum game perspective than a town one. Anecdotally, I just don't think I've much seen a townie whose perspective is similar to yours here. Rhand may be confirmed town but that doesn't mean we should listen to what he's saying more than anyone else necessarily.

 

Oh, also, @Rhand: beyond conf!town status, you have a vote. He had an instakill.
One lends more to leading since it requires teamwork. The other's a act of God entirely on him.

 

If you thought this was the case, why not mention it earlier?
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Sorry Sloth, hope that answers your question. I'm sort of all over the thread right now.
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Although I have Sloth in my POE, I actually am a bit concerned that a series of players jumped on Sloth after me, and I'd still like a counterwagon.

VOTE: WACO

 

Sure, everything can be scum game based on anecdotal evidence. I'm more trying to do an objective appraisal of this specific game as it stands.
Which, btw, did end up with rhand leading the current wagon on me. Though I do admit I probably helped with that post lol.
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I need this goddamn avatar switching to stop. it's making it REALLY hard to make sure I know who actually said what.