I don't share the strength of your reads on Rubicon/Sloth so if you have time and can be bothered I would appreciate it, especially if there's some fucked up world where I don't die for another two days and you do.

 

Let's focus on Reg first then? Do you know what's making you want kick him out? What about your earlier post about getting there on him finally, what was the thought behind that for you?

 

@Gemma - Unaligned list

Spoiler

Not W/W together:
Vaimes/Dels
Vaimes/Gemma
Gemma/Dels
Dels/Fonti
TerRaine/Waco
TerRaine / Sloth
Amy / Gemma
Rubicon / Gemma
Vaimes / Fonti
Gemma / Fonti
Sloth / Amy
Vaimes/Cobalt
Waco/Vaimes
Sloth/Fonti
Rubicon / Fonti
Amy/ Fonti
Amy / Dels

Probably not W/W together:
Tom/Amy
Waco/Amy

Is about what I've compiled

I might be back later tonight, will see.

 

Um.

He wrote Ter's name down in his list just before that instead of Jari, I think because he's thinking about the read he can get on the slot, which comes from Ter, and not thinking in the sense of getting a misyeet or saving a partner from a yeet, because that would have been focused on Jari.

And the correction on Amy and then recorrecting it felt good? Like he was going through hus thoughts after posting them to make sure they made sense, then spotted a problem, then immediately second guessed himself on that problem.

His not w/w thing with me, Dels and Amy reminded of the same thing he did in that game with me, Yeti and divagreen (or whatever her name was?) which was alsp the last time I thubk he didn't

 

Phone posting is the worst.

... I think he didn't really townread, so that similarity felt good.

 

I feel like I'm getting take along with his reads and letting them swallow mine. And like he could be protecting scum in Dels and Rubicon and maybe Sloth, and I'm just letting myself get molded to rhat

 

So why you want to kick him out?

 

Fuck. This.

... get molded to that world view. At the same time, I think that's mostly paranoia, and his probably are just good, and I should just let this happen.

 

Okay, let's look at those 3 slots then? Do you have any particular feelings with any of them?

 

Thanks.

 

I felt the worst I think I was dealing with that spoilered post to me, because it felt so constrictive. That and the insistence that Akina was shot to stop him from joining, and him using that to eliminate worlds, and it turn using that to say that like Cuth is likely scum by poe, when I don't even agree with the initial premise.

 

Yeah nah, was going to put this down and walk away but this whole post is garbage.

It was never a "It was definitely a shot to stop me specifically from joining the game" type thing, I went into a lot of different reasons why mafia would have made that kill that revolves around them being happy with the gamestate and in general just not wanting new / fresh thoughts entered into the game. This was also your reaction towards the night kill. You've apparently dropped this stance because of Rubicons "mafia were possibly dodging JOAT" stuff, and I explained in a fair bit of detail how that doesn't make sense directed at you.

It was not a "constrictive" type of post either, it was a 'here's the worlds, thoughts I have, tell me where you disagree, and if you don't think from your PoV Cuth/Dels are the places to look because either one or both are scum'. Instead, since then you've gone through NEITHER of their ISO's.

 

Like if you're town here I've told you exactly where I think you should be looking, and you're not doing that, and then doing the whole "oh would he kill me irl if I didn't do Cuth tonight" shit, whilst also not going through Dels. If it wasn't for Gemma being in this game I'd be voting you and just peacing here, not really caring if I'm wrong on you or not.

 

Might be misremembering, but I like this post from Waco. It feels... flowy in a way I don't recall from the last game, comes across pretty naturally and unconcernedly?

 

Sloth, I don't know. I feel like the way he approached me felt town. I don't even remember why I feel that way. I think it was maybe that I get why he's voting me.

Dels is underwhelming and I disagree with him a lot and his vote on me sucks, but I don't know if any of that actually makes him scum. And maybe he's right on Amy, and I know I liked his posts Day 1 even if I don't remember why.

Rubicon isn't posting his thought process. He's playing like fluff, but more active. I'm trying to draw the connections between what he's posting, and I kind of see it, but at the sane time he's leaving so much room by not explaining to be opportunostic about what he's pursuing that I can't feel confortable townreading him. I could maybe add him to my kind of town, thinking about it, because of the interior process when he was talking about me and Cobalt being scum together, like he just expected people to get what he was talking about. But that has the same problem, where if he's scum with Cobalt he was just setting up doubts on me in case Cobalt flipped and justifying a push on me in the meantime while als distancing from Cobalt. I guess that's not likely, I don't think Rubicon would thinj he could missyeet me after I yeeted Scumbalt, and might think it'd be better to be on my goodside, but that's complicated by how many people are scumreading me this game.

 

Reg, I've gone through Cuth's iso multiple times and still felt ok with him. I am trying not to interfere with your push because I do not feel confident in it.

I understand what you're saying intellectually about world building, but Gemma asked why I felt doubts about you and I am exploring those feelings . I'm not calling you mafia for it.

I'm sorry for tilting you. I am extremely tilted and trying to untilt.

 

Maybe I missed some nuances of interaction before, but your level of frustration seems massively out of proportion to anything fonti's done. You're framing it like she's required to read Dels/me to check some mental box you have and is refusing out of spite, when she's said she didn't want to talk much about me before I came back and has been pretty strongly involved in a conversation with Gemma on a variety of fronts for most of the evening? I don't get it.

 

I want to be here for things, but I’m also at work.

 

Cobalt having 0 votes is not right.

 

I personally feel like most of my thought process has ended up in the thread D2, with the exception of a couple weaker reads that I don’t have much to say about so far (but even with these you should be able to track the direction of my questions and probes at people).

So I’m not sure why fontisian (and Tom) are saying I’m not and that it’s so hard to figure out what I’m thinking. The read feels a little stagnant like some people said earlier and they haven’t noticed it’s not true anymore.