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JoaT^2 15er - A Mafia Game

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. Jarizok

    Jarizok Auror DLP Supporter

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    It's not about friggin scaring you. You're super defensive. What's the problem with just giving a paragraph or two about some posts you've made that you reckon might get me to town on you? We've played plenty for both of us to know the kind of posting that usually does it. You feeling like it's burdening and hostage-y is more AI than me asking you a simple question.
     
  2. Cobalt

    Cobalt Third Year

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    I’m not being defensive, you came across as aggressive and demanding. Almost threateningly so.

    I don’t have to let that fly.
     
  3. Regfan

    Regfan First Year

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    This is pretty much what I was trying to say in my last post that I sort of posted quickly because had to dash off for something IRL. Like it felt like Cuths play and thoughts around Fonti/Myself felt like he'd come in the thread knowing he's in a bad position as scum and sort of TMI'ed his Fonti read while attempting to de-credit me. It didn't and doesn't feel like thoughts/things he'd want to put into the thread if he's town and is/had a strong town read on me like an hour ago. It's not really a gamesolve-y post where he's trying to work out the scum, or understand where my headspace is or what's going on at all.
     
  4. Gemma

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    Hey Jari, it's nice to see you in game again. A readlist would be good, I'm not sure what the shape of your reads on the game are right now. Focus on whoever or whatever you feel most strongly about, seeing you pursue things you think are important would be cool.
     
  5. Jarizok

    Jarizok Auror DLP Supporter

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    :thinking:
     
  6. tom

    tom First Year

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    I don't do much talking, let the voting do it for me
    And I don't need no promo, cause the haters do it for me
    I just tell it how it is, while they be telling stories
    When you come up from the bottom, that just means that you was chosen
     
  7. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    regfan, have you explained your reasoning for Amy/fonti not being a team? If so, could you link me the post - I have trouble finding anything on this forum and I wanted to follow a line of analysis regarding it.
     
  8. Cobalt

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    You know that’s NOT the post I’m talking about. Stop trying to manipulate the narrative here.

     
  9. Gemma

    Gemma Sixth Year

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    Nod, I'll be around when you're back if you want to chat.
     
  10. Jarizok

    Jarizok Auror DLP Supporter

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    Yeah Ima get to that. Doing a Cobalt dive as well for obvious reasons. I haven't really devoted much time to firming up any kind of read. I came into the game thinking thinking Sloth had been much scummier than thread gave him credit for and general townie feels for a bunch of people and that's just been simmering.
     
  11. tom

    tom First Year

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    If this is whats up, id yeet jari over cuth
     
  12. Jarizok

    Jarizok Auror DLP Supporter

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    I don't think I'm the one doing the manipulating here but that's fine. "No u" isn't going to get us anywhere.
     
  13. Regfan

    Regfan First Year

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    Simply put there's been nothing to talk with you about, I need you to have put some content/thoughts and stuff on recent happenings in the thread before I can talk with you about them. And I'm not going to real-time with someone that's still in the past when it's better to just have them catch up and talk about headspace/thoughts/reads then. You've come in the thread tonight after I've been tilted during the day by some Fonti/Gemma stuff that I don't really want to go into, and when I'd decided I wanted to try and step back from the game and just treat it as a puzzle type thing of working out where pieces fit because I don't have a lot more patience and willpower to keep playing, and while I've got some RL stuff that I needed to get done and then tried to make something out of me not talking and playing with you directly when it's felt like you've not been playing at all, and when there's been several things that just point towards your slot looking like decently likely scum.

    You're making out as if my vote on you has been a "hey everyone vote this player!!!" type thing, and it hasn't until now, I've flipped my vote like maybe 5 times today between you/Jarizok/Fonti, I didn't have a super strong scum read, and I think trying to suggest that my play/read/actions there are "lazy" is kind of ridiculous.

    This also isn't actually true at all, and shows that you've not really read the game, or my posts properly. I only posted a read on Fonti this morning (~11 hours ago), before then I'd sort of put her to the side and hadn't gone through her, and had some things that made me think it was possible for her to be town here. I've tried interacting and playing with Fonti a LOT in the last ~12 hours, I've directed posts at her, and asked her to get to reading certain players for me so I can talk with her, extending the olive branch a fair bit because I didn't want to risk misyeeting Fonti with Gemma in the game. I've tried to get her to talk to me about my reads. It's like you've just popped into the thread, not read much of what's happened today and then tried to insert yourself into what's happening and put thoughts in the thread over it rather than looking back and trying to analyse it and then finishing up by posting "tinfoil Regfan!w" which just doesn't really make any sense coming from town here.
     
  14. Regfan

    Regfan First Year

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    It's happened (not Cuth in particular) by mafia here with me even just at DLP almost a dozen times.
     
  15. tom

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    Hilariously, wacos push on me has now solidified as both the worst one and the towniest one.

    Its hard not to laugh at simulataneously attacking me for not doing enough to save wisp AND for only voting people that i could convince someone else to vote with me.
    Like, he said those two things in the same post, about the same time period.

    High comedy

    But what wolf doubles down on that?
     
  16. Gemma

    Gemma Sixth Year

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    I'm not trying to get into since you clearly don't want to (and I'm sorry about whatever I said that set you off), just want to say I think you're likely overestimating how upset I would be if fonti were misyeeted here. I'm very unattached to the outcome of this game / this dayphase or anything. I'd feel bad for fonti but that's about it. I haven't stated a super strong townread on her, I haven't tried to convince thread she's town, in fact I've explicitly not tried to do that and I only gave you words about her because I wanted you to feel like I respected the effort and care you put into your read on her and to satisfy the expectation you have of our relationship. So I wouldn't blame you for following a read you believed in even if it did turn out to be wrong in the end.
     
  17. Gemma

    Gemma Sixth Year

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    This post makes no sense. That is all.
     
  18. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Rubicon / Vaimes / Gemma / Sloth
    Dels / regfan / Waco /tom

    The players above all seem town to me in varying degrees. They also form an interesting cluster of mutual meta townreads on each other, which not everybody on the list shares (Waco suspects Sloth and tom, tom suspects Dels, etc.) but others would bet the whole game on. If I were willing to trust this whole web of meta reads, and also assume fonti & Amy are not a team together, there are only 7 possible wolf teams:

    Cobalt / Fontisian / Jarizok
    Cobalt / Cuthalion / Fontisian
    Cobalt / Cuthalion / Jarizok
    Cuthalion / Fontisian / Jarizok
    Ampharos / Cobalt / Jarizok
    Ampharos / Cuthalion / Jarizok
    Ampharos / Cobalt / Cuthalion

    With these teams there is always at least one wolf (or more) between Cobalt/Cuthalion, Cobalt/Jarizok, and Jarizok/Cuthalion.

    fonti/Amy is another notable group, and would have exactly one wolf IF a Cobalt / Cuthalion / Jarizok team could be eliminated. The interaction from just now with Cobalt trying to defuse the regfan/Cuth conversation as V/V and then getting into a fight with Jarizok is probably relevant to deciding how likely this is, but I'm too tired to reach a proper conclusion about what it means.
     
  19. tom

    tom First Year

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    @Gemma cant make this shit up
     
  20. tom

    tom First Year

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    I do?
     
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