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JoaT^2 15er - A Mafia Game

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. Regfan

    Regfan First Year

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    Amount of WIM from Tom is just straight impressive regardless of his alignment here.

    He's got me actually contemplating putting the JOATs aside for a day phase and wanting to go elsewhere, even when there's just a lot that makes Amys claim look legitimate (Flip of read on Tom D1->D2 and way it was phrased fitting with a motion detect, the "i'm good" thing today being a hardclaim of the N3 save without knowing who they were up against, being the first to claim today without knowing who they'd be up against).

    Think I'll spend some time maybe going through some of the Amy/X worlds in some more depth and at least trying to narrow down the possibilities more or seeing if I find one that I think can really exist; if we're yeeting Tom today then we probably win in all Tom/X worlds, so it's the Amy ones that are more dangerous.
     
  2. tom

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    This is why it works

    Cuths partner doesnt "not give any shits about cuth at all" yesterday
    Which is why quoting wouldnt do any fucking good you cant prove a negative

    Look at waco iso
    Ask yourself if dude knew cuth was getting yeeted and flipping wolf
    Cuths partners knew that
     
  3. Regfan

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    I'll keep the never tinfoil Vaimes read in mind, but I really just don't agree with this sort of perspective read on Waco /shrug. And your whole "Town never win without changing it's perspective" is kind of eh to me, I think if you're town and we misyeet you others need to start putting more effort into scumhunting and things, yes. But all of yesterday, and a lot of D2 several of us have had Cuth as highly likely/locked scum, and were correct. A lot of us came into today with "exactly 1 of Tom/Amy are scum, not both" and that's been correct. I don't think we're misreading the gamestate too badly?
     
  4. tom

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    Alas, not only do i have more wim as a wolf, i also care more about shaming yall than actually wanting anything more

    If you want to call my today villagery its for tranparency and not trying to make any friends today, not for wim
     
  5. tom

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    I personally forced people to say 1 wolf in me and amy, you get no credit for that.

    You all got cuth right then stopped trying to solve for a week
    Thats not how you win mafia games

    But bad perspective is what i think is a shit poe that tries its hardest to lose a game thats still very winnable
     
  6. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Did DLP change color for anyone else or is my computer broken.

    I’m on dark theme and everything is light.
     
  7. tom

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    Gross
    Im still green
     
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    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    It was my browser, I fixed it.

    I think we should ask Waco how to proceed.
     
  9. tom

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    Waco wants to yeet me
    He has since day 1
    Its a real read, even though it sucks
     
  10. Regfan

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    Worst case scenario we misyeet a JOAT today. Sloth dies tonight, Amy dies tomorrow. I get shot the following night.
    7 alive, 3 yeets; 4 surefire townreads is auto in the absolute worst spot we can be in.

    I'm willing to lock in Fonti as one of those townies. On the reread Amy/Fonti are definitely not W/W. Tom/Fonti also definitely not W/W.
     
  11. tom

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    Unless its based on the first two days, fonti/amy unalignment is trash too
    Dont let her get away with doing nothing day 3 or 4 but try to misyeet me
     
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    Seems pretty bad yo

    Not unwinnable, sure
    But not good
     
  13. tom

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    She even used amy looking like a bus to push why i should have voted cuth

    But did she consider amy?

    *checks notes*
     
  14. Regfan

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    It is based on the first two days, based on the big push from fonti on Amy saying that meta wise they remind them of her, and that this game she thinks they're mafia, and then Amys entrance and everything that ensued from there.

    Shrug, maybe Tom has a point re; Waco/Amy in that Amy fake claiming JOAT, then suggesting a plan of yeeting outside the JOATs and having Tom/Amy on Sloth, and then saying that their biggest preference to the yeet today is Waco...is kind of a Bad Plan as scum since Waco yeet makes the game unwinnable. It's not a strong thing I guess in that in an Amy/Waco world well they've super boxed in and can't really do much more.
     
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    Thats fine then

    But i will reiterate that i think its bad meta and amy and fonti are nothing alike
    Hell amy is more like [cobalt when hes trying] than fonti

    Cuth did agree with me on that which is a little weird for w/w/w but as it turns out he was in antispew so :shrug:
     
  16. Regfan

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    Meh.

    I'm going back to bed. I'm not opposed if you want to just hammer Tom today. I also wouldn't be super unhappy if people wanted to yeet Waco and put off making a decision between the JOATs. He's someone where if he's town I'm just not going to be able to clear him and he'll just be an inevitable yeet at some point, I don't have a better yeet suggestion outside of Waco that's not in the JOATS and there's limited crossover I think between Tom/X, and Amy/X worlds. I think we're in a good spot here even if we miss, and I don't think I can ever even really consider yeeting Amy over Tom here, I think play wise & moreso claim wise I think it's Tom>Amy.

    Legacy read if something somehow goes sour is that Fontis town, don't tinfoil that one.
     
  17. tom

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    I think sneaking partner dels into her townreads is more likely than wanting to yeet partner waco, yes
    But i dont think i have a non confirmation bias based opinion on this
     
  18. tom

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    And that is why you fail

    Sometimes I wonder if you even want to solve games
     
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    You're definitely appealing to all the wrong things.
     
  20. tom

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    Bull shit on "play wise"
    I am 10 times townier than amy

    I just voted wrong one time


    Fair enough on claim-wise im actually pretty impressed with the nuance of it.

    Ftr the post i typed then deleted and said "not making that post" or something was me noticing the implication she protected last night and the deciding to wait for more claims
     
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