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JoaT^2 15er - A Mafia Game

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Sorry, saw one post about it from several hours ago, then saw another recent post from Gemma about waiting for you before hammering, and I'm absolutely not ready for a hammer.
     
  2. fontisian

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    I aporeciate you, Dels.
     
  3. Gemma

    Gemma Sixth Year

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    The boy self-voted.
     
  4. fontisian

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    I agree with every part of this.

    Tbh, I'm somewhat worried is scum using the Cobalt townread to get to end game, because he knows Cobalt is pocketed and going to vote me and Waco over him. But, I think that's most just paranoia? His towmcase for Cobalt isn't a stretch and doesn't read as manipulative.

    Ultimately, my read here is very similar to Reg's read on me, in that if someone is fooling me, Dels is the person most able to do that.

    Also, I really feel like should be clear. Reading back, I absolutely dumped on both Amy and Cuth Day 2 and refused to move to Cobalt when Reg did, and I do not lile trying to win alone as a wolf. Also, I probably would have shot Gemma once Reg was townreading me to deprive him of someone to bounce his reads off of. Also, the fact that I had to look back to remember how much I attacked Any Day 2 is a sign I'm town, because as a wolf I would have done that to bring it up later, and as town I just forgot.
     
  5. fontisian

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    Yes, love, I hadn't seen that. Also, you talked about hamnering before he self voted.
     
  6. fontisian

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    I mean, the last wolf probably is just Von, and he was having a great time earlier with Cuth, Para and Amy, but now they're gone and the townreads on him didn't pan out, so he's given up.
     
  7. Gemma

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    I did not.
     
  8. Gemma

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    Also, you didn't shoot me night 1.
     
  9. Dels

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    I agree with the thing Gemma just quoted from Fonti, helps me re-quell my Fonti paranoia and feel better about this just being "yeet Vaimes, if game not over decide between Waco/Cobalt"
     
  10. Dels

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    Looked through Cuth's iso as best I could.

    ...Nothing majorly stood out?

    For Vaimes, he basically had some light banter and gave an easy townread early day 1 and never re-evaluated, just kept saying town from meta. That's exactly how he'd handle the read if the rest of town was townreading Vaimes, yeah.

    Has a few posts about Waco. 1805 is a good one, not sure if you guys quoted this one earlier?

    I think Fonti is the person he has the most complex thoughts on. He talks to Wisp about Fonti, talks to Reg about Fonti a lot, this post 1842. Complex thoughts about someone = w/v indicative to me, in case I'm not being cleared.

    Doesn't seem to talk about Cobalt much at all ever, but there is the one time he gave that v read on Cobalt that Reg said didn't line up, and Cuth immediately went "yeah my bad". Top of 1117, into 1301. Notable. He votes Cobalt on his last day alive but wow much anti-spew. He says "I've come back around to here" when he votes Cobalt but he was never really there anyway? Afair? Lists Cobalt at bottom of his final readslist but again I am not wifoming that.

    None of this helps me much but it makes me feel better about Fonti v as well, otherwise think Waco looks okay from it and Vaimes -> Cobalt look worst.
     
  11. Dels

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    not being clear*
     
  12. Gemma

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    Her Cuth/Amy stuff isn't super clearing, she was town on Cuth all through day 1 and only moved him to wolf once Reg and I dunked him and Reg turned day 2 into "lynch Cuth or else," I don't think you have a lot of options as wolf!fonti there that don't involve openly howling. If she wants to make the argument that she would have openly howled, well, heh I guess I don't necessarily disagree. Her Amy stuff is a good look for the reasons Reg and I (apparently we're a couple now) talked about but she also wolfsided pretty hard when it came down to claims. It could go either way, you just tend to lean towards it not being clearing because you're relying on her playing to her scum meta for it to be that, and if this is the one game where she shifts her meta then well, you've thrown the game more or less out of laziness. I don't really think much of this matters at this point because the game should end with the Von yeet but I'm killing time waiting for my meds to kick in so I may as well spew random words at no one in particular for no reason in particular.
     
  13. Dels

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    Wait, who is the "you" that is leaning towards it being not clearing? I was saying I agreed with Fonti it did look clearing. (Well, maybe not clearing, but, good at least) Your point is valid too though.
     
  14. fontisian

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    I do not think this is accurate assessment of my play at all. Also, I'm pretty certain I locked Cuth in as scum at the same time you did, when he intervened between me and Reg, and I stuck to that read when it mattered to get him yeeted, when I could have easily jumped off onto Cobalt. And I attacked Amy when she tried to push Jari, and should have closed him off as a yeet in the process, if a whole bunch of town hadn't decided to randomly yeet him at the last second (looking at you, Dels, tom and Waco).
     
  15. fontisian

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    To be clear, I know you suspected Cuth before that, but it was "this kill could have come from Cuth" suspicion, which was not convincing, and you did not seem at all sure of it.
     
  16. Gemma

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    Wait, why are we turning this into a conversation.

    Go do something productive you goobers.
     
  17. Gemma

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    Impersonal you
     
  18. Gemma

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    I swear I have a fever or something, I'm simultaneously sweltering hot and shivering cold at the same time.
     
  19. Gemma

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    Wow you just spewed half the poe town, you're not very good at this wolfing thing are you.
     
  20. fontisian

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    Uh.

    I have a shower thought?

    Cuth was clearly concerned that I was going to swing in and hard clear Wisp Day 1, after I did that in the team game. That's why he backed off so quickly and why Amy didn't initially jump on Wisp. It's also probably why Vaimes mostly ignored the Wisp wagon. Dels kept pushing Wisp because he's not and wasn't warned that a hard defense might be incoming. Then, Amy saw Dels tunneled on Wisp and me not commiting to saving him and decided she could look good burying a town who was already mostly dead (in a "why would scum do this" way) and have a chance at pocketing Dels, Cobalt and maybe me.
     
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