Ah. Well, he did it was town last time, iirc.

Uh, I feel like if this was something Cobalt cared about as much as he seems to, the wheels would have been turning in his head and he would have had a refined proposal instead of just posting the same thing we ignored last time. It would have at least been presented better.

 

Man, I wanted that Fiora pick.

 

This was kind of prickly. Is that normal for this person? I feel like it /could/ be a scum thing, if they're not big on playing scum and it put them in a worse mood.

 

I'm just waiting for the meta to swing back around to junglers I actually play. Where my Vi picks at.

I see your point on the Cobalt thing, but I think it's super thin and it's not something I'm really willing to pursue. Want to see more from him.

FMPOV it seemed like a justifiably prickly response to a fairly pointed question at a point in the game where barely anything had happened. Nutella comes from a pretty fast-paced environment and this game got off to a super slow start.

Caveat is that I've never seen nutella's wolfgame, I don't think.

 

I guess?

Feels like it lashes out more at the players who haven't checked in than at Gira. Maybe I'm picking up on a scum feeling of "I'm here and posting, which is better than half of these townies, how dare you push me." Eh.

 

I'm being pretty loose with the feels reads off of nothing, heh. Can't hurt at this point.

 

You wanna talk about loose, I rescinded my Cobalt read like 5 minutes after its inception.

 

Leaning town on Cobalt, Amy, and Ara. Maybe Fonti as well. None of these should be trusted.

No one else has moved the needle.

Lump: Grape
Vote: Waco

 

I'm looking for more loose reads, but half the content is just us.

 

The Waco vote is random?

Talk about why on the reads.

 

Waco vote is random.

Ara's excitement and interaction with Cobalt and the mechanics felt genuine. And I default to thinking that indicates town.

I think Cobalt advocating a heterodox opinion is more likely to come from town. Much easier to advocate against the established and successful meta if you're town.

Amy's real time spitballing with you feels pure. As does the very loose flip flop on Cobalt.

And you because I want to town read the nitpicking on Nutella.

 

Re: Cobalt, this is an opinion he's posted in a previous game, so why is it more likely to come from town here?

 

Interesting that your assessment of Cobalt is like the exact opposite of my initial take.

 

Because if people proved completely unreceptive to the bringing it up is actively rocking the boat. The simplest explanation is Cobalt is confident because they're town. Advocating for a plan that got shot down is likely to draw ire and reads like Amy's.

If they were scum I think cobalt would have had to consider how it would be received. As town it's so easy to just throw it out there and see if it sticks.

 

I'm a contrairian at heart unfortunately.

 

@fontisian on a scale from 1 to "I have work tomorrow" how bad an idea is staying up to catch Mad vs Supermassive live?

 

So instead of reading this game, since it was so quiet at SoD I've been reading TinyHunt 9 and here are my reads as of EoD 1, tiers alphabetical:

Voxx*

Dels
Grapefruit
Jarizok
Regfan
Umami

Citrus
fontisian
Vaimes

Cobalt

fluff
t om

Gemma*

*"Confirmed" alignments

I only realized about halfway through that this was January of 2019 instead of 2020, wow!!!!! Also note that this is a bit biased because I do know the general outcome/structure of the game, and I started typing this up before I realized that this is the game that Voxx subbed into, so...

Anyways there's only three pages left, so will finish this up quickly and catch up here; also have some updated thoughts relevant to here, will share in a moment!!

 

Posting a readslist for another goddamn game is pretty galaxy brain.

 

Oops, got distracted for a bit, but done now!!

Anyways what a stomp; not really much to say about that game, was some solid play by town!!!! Also was fun to see how the meta in and of itself played out, very hype!!! I get why people like it now, and having gone over the setup again it seems solid; one thing I was thinking about for this is why not do something like having your Lump vote be the same as your real vote? Then we could just do counterwagons, for wagonomics hype!!

Regardless, I do have some updated thoughts on Cobalt, where this is complicated: he did do stuff regarding pushing for getting the Lump and also felt like he had more of a laissez-faire feeling? On the other hand, I still lowkey like what he did early on here in a way where it felt like he was genuinely getting into some important mechanics, so I'm disregarding that thought for the moment and leaving my read where it is!!!

 

I disagree with this; it's a very mechanically complex setup for which in retrospect I feel I really should have expected some sort of meta to have sprung up around already, but I didn't think it'd be safe to ask!!

Though I guess technically they could have discussed it in mafia chat already?

Regardless, not something which I think is a slam dunk, but on the other hand I do somewhat like the particular way this vote from nutella actually came about, through Macdougall!!!!!