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Obi-Wan (Disney+)

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by KHAAAAAAAN!!, Nov 12, 2021.

  1. KHAAAAAAAN!!

    KHAAAAAAAN!! Troll in the Dungeon –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Maybe. But I don't think Disney will be able to resist making Reva an absolute Chad with her saber. She's gunna get into it with somebody. The rumor mill is pretty heavy on a Quinlan Vos appearance.
     
  2. raobuntu

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    It's mostly Rebels that makes me think that the inquisitors (outside of the Grand Inquisitors) aren't that strong.

    The inquisitors were generally a slight step above Kanan/Ezra and Ahsoka handled the inquistors fairly easily. Not to mention Maul who was dispatched by older Obi-Wan without too much of a problem.

    I think I'm w/ @Erotic Adventures of S in that it's cat and mouse and Obi-Wan having to get out of situations where he's massively outnumbered and doesn't have the chance to take either inquisitor in a straight fight to balance the scales

    Edit: Also, idk where I read this and if it's official canon/legends/discussion from fans, but the inquisitors aren't supposed to be that strong on purpose since neither Palpatine or Vader want to train someone strong enough to face either of them.
     
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    The final Maul v Obi Wan fight wasn't about strength.

    We do see a few different Inquisitors in that trailer though, so I'm hoping we see a few fights. Also, the only weapon we saw Kenobi use in that trailer was terribly uncivilised, so his saber will either be saved for the right moment or not used at all.
     
  4. DrSarcasm

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    Kanan had been a relatively untrained Padawan at the time of Order 66 and had spent the time after hiding his Jedi powers. Ezra had pretty much just begun his training, which came from Kanan and some holocron teachings. On the other hand, Ahsoka had been through the thickest fighting of all three years of the Clone Wars and was practically a Jedi Knight in her own right by the end.

    (Though I agree the nature of the first season or two of Rebels did give the impression that the crew of the Ghost was covered in the thickest of plot armor, able to win every fight they were involved in. That said, most of the Inquisitor fights was basically Kanan and Ezra trying to run away rather than actually fight them.)

    The way the final Obi-Wan/Maul fight went was that Obi-Wan deliberately switched from his normal ready stance to that used by Qui-Gon Jinn, goading Maul into attacking him the same way he did back then. And since Kenobi knew exactly how he was going to attack, he knew exactly how to counter him, which is why it only took two strikes.
     
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    I don't really consider it a spoiler since the show went off the air four years ago, but the Grand Inquisitor wasn't just some Jedi, he was a Temple Guardian. Basically the elite of the elite among the Jedi when it came to straight up personal combat skill. He's no match for someone like Vader due to Vader's overwhelming power advantage, but the guy is supposed to be skilled enough to almost be in the same general ballpark.

    For someone like Obi-wan, who likely has spent the past few years not exercising his skills all that much for fear of attracting the wrong kind of attention, someone like the Grand Inquisitor would very much be a credible threat.
     
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    Honestly, for a badass fight...just have Kenobi vs a bunch of inquisitors.
     
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    I hope that the Kenobi series has at least one scene that is anywhere near the same level of thematic beauty as the Rebels' scene with Maul's death on the Dune Sea - even with the micropenis thickness lightsabers of Rebels.

    he will avenge us
     
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    The first Disney+ series that heavily featured Tattooine was hit and miss at best. The second I haven't bothered to watch beyond episode 1 because my god, it was all the worst things about The Mandalorian magnified and concentrated into a super dense little package of unbelievable boredom. Third time's the charm? Or is it gonna follow the trend of Disney Star Wars since 2015, where "meh" is their absolute ceiling?
     
  9. arkkitehti

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    Personally I'm hopeful about Obi-Wan. Part of the reason IMO why the Disney Star Wars has been so uninspired is that there seems to be a mortal fear of concluding storylines, because that would limit the potential for future spin-offs and sequels. Obi-Wan doesn't have such potential as Disney already has a definitive end for Obi-Wan's character arc, which should give the writers much more secure position to craft a satisfying ending to their story.

    Rogue One has been the best new Star Wars story, and I believe part of the reason for that was that there was no need to keep the ending ambiguous for future expansion and exploitation.
     
  10. Quick Ben

    Quick Ben In ur docs, stealin ur werds.

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    You know, I have to wonder.

    If you took away the Jedi, Stormtroopers, and Empire.

    What is Star Wars?

    What sets this fictional universe apart if it didn't have to rely on those 3?
     
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    If you took away the meat, cheese, and lettuce from a burger.
    What is Burger? Is it not just bread?

    What sets it apart from bread?
     
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    You don't need stormtroopers or the empire.

    The core of the star wars universe can be found more in the Expanded Universe and Disney is morons for ignoring it wholesale.

    But, I would argue it's the iconic characters more than anything else.

    The problem with Book of Boba Fett is they turned the most feared Bounty Hunter in the Galaxy into a moron.

    The problem with the sequel trilogy is they turned Luke Skywalker into an asshole.

    Kenobi can work if they stay true to the character and do him justice.
     
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    Personally I don't understand the avoidance of Jedi and lightsabers outside the mainline movies. This is what's cool about SW. I also don't get the nerd hard-on of some folks for the "underworld". Y'all got two shows' worth of the underworld now. How's it going so far?
     
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    Yeah definitely this.

    I am also bored by the empire republic timeline which has been done to death and has barely any Jedi or Sith.

    The underworld stuff has no unique flavor and stuff every SciFi/ Fantasy show has so why not lean into what makes Star Wars different or at least recognizable.

    Please let's just go to the Old Republic.
     
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  15. Quick Ben

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    Let me use a better example.

    Harry Potter Universe.

    If you took away Hogwarts, Dark Lords, Great Wizards, and Chosen Ones.

    You can still have a world that is very recognizably Harry Potter. And that is the magic.

    You can make a movie in any genre and still have it look like Harry Potter.

    Its because everyone in that universe has access to the thing that sets it apart. Magic.



    Another example is Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn Universe.

    I guess my question is, is Star Wars only defined by the struggle between Jedi's and Dark lords?

    If so, I think disney should fully embrace the force and lightsabers. Make the Force, the central connecting theme of their universe.

    Just like what the recent animated anthology tried to do.
     
  16. Quick Ben

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    A jedi heist movie would be dope to see.

    Or I wonder how a thriller centered around a Jedi/sith could turn out.

    Someone using the force in insidious ways and its up to someone who can't feel the force to stop them.


    Can a jedi horror movie work. A jedi's strong will is slowly eroded over the course of the movie as they face something that even their trust in the force can't help them.
     
  17. KHAAAAAAAN!!

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    Uhh.. pretty good? It may not be to your personal tastes, Scott, but the majority of the fandom loves Mando, and seem to mostly be okay with Boba Fett S1 despite all the blunders and missed opportunities.

    Tldr let people enjoy things.

    That's what Acolyte is said to be. Suspense/Thriller set during the High Republic.
     
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    I just want my triple-A, faithful beat-by-beat to the canon series of events of KOTOR. Like. There's easily six movies' worth of high quality stuff just in that one game's events (and maybe the Mandalorian War leading up to it) alone.

    They don't even have to change anything. Just literally adapt it as it was. Easy money.
     
  19. ScottPress

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    Your argument still falls flat. "Here, let me take the cool shit that sets Star Wars apart from other IPs off the table and then I want you to tell me what sets Star Wars apart from other IPs."

    I do agree on embracing lightsabers tho. It's kind of sad that how little cool lightsaber action there was in the Disney sequels. I enjoyed the Rey vs Kylo duel in TFA for the most part. Nothing in TLJ. A smidgen in TROS. Prequels are bad in a lot of ways, but lightsaber action was cool.
     
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    Six movies out of KOTOR 1? You want a whole movie worth of Taris? Ugh. Pass.
     
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