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Why did Harry never break in canon?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Pikachu, May 7, 2023.

  1. raobuntu

    raobuntu Seventh Year

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    Hunt Terrorists? Psshhh. The real friendship test is whether or not Ron would pick up Harry from LAX.
     
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    Goten Askil Groundskeeper

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    Go home, Alexx, you're drunk (drunk on your usual indy trashfics, that is).
     
  3. aAlouda

    aAlouda High Inquisitor

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    Honestly, even if those bashing fics were right about Ron only hanging out with Harry because Dumbledore pays him(with Harry's gold), that is still great value for your money.
     
  4. TRH

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    Not like Harry ever spends money on anything besides his school supplies anyways. He never even buys his own broom despite loving Quidditch. The boy's a goddamn miser.
     
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    Because everybody’s like “no Harry, solid golden cauldron makes no sense if you’ve never brewed a potion in your life” and “there’s no reason to buy a solid gold telescope”, fucking buzzkills.
     
  6. Pikachu

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    I mean he does a have a personal stake here. Considering his family works for the organization that fights against the said terrorist. It's not just friendship he is doing it for his family safety as well. The fact he couldn't put the bigger picture ahead of his insecurities tells more about him. Hell Dumbledore himself knew he would bail and had a fail safe for him to get back. It's still a shitty thing to do abandoning your best friend and the girl he loves alone when they could get attacked and any moment and die. Hell Hermione obliviated her parents and stuck it out. If it comes to it why does Harry need to do it anyway? He could just think Hell this is just too much Dumbledore left me with fuck all to help with the task and ran. Harry and Hermione saw the bigger picture, Ron didn't end of the day. Perhaps it's too harsh expecting Ron to be perfect but seeing it through Harry's pov in the books just makes you think Ron isn't a reliable enough trustworthy friend you can trust your life with.
     
  7. Pikachu

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    There is a reason all those shopping trips used to be popular back then. If you have the money to buy magical stuff to make your life more comfortable you might as well do it. I'm thinking the main reason he doesn't do anything with his money cos Ron is poor and you know if HP started flaunting his wealth he is gonna start having one of his jealous fests. Hell might be one of the reasons he gives away his Triwizard money to his brothers instead of using it himself. Getting better clothes to wear would be a start.
     
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  8. Pikachu

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    Even if you give him all the money in the world, if at any point in the books had HP got with Hermione, there is no way in hell Ron would remain friends with him. I mean he could barely handle him being a Triwizard champion.
     
  9. MonkeyEpoxy

    MonkeyEpoxy The Cursed Child DLP Supporter

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    I remember being an angsty and angry 17 year old too. You'll grow out of it man.
     
  10. Pikachu

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    They maybe trash but they do get some of the stuff right. The ridiculous trust in Dumbledore when he is just his school headmaster and had a few conversations with and never shows up when needed except once in the 5th book. I mean you got to think the guy is a bit dodgy if he is hiding things from you, doesn't make his school anywhere near safe for you and other kids to live in and you got to regularly save the day. Hell the fact the guy never showed up when you were living like a slave with your muggle relatives in childhood and he keeps sending you back there every year should make you not trust him at all. Instead we got the ridiculous Dumbledore's man nonsense.
     
  11. Pikachu

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    Hence the point of the thread, HP doesn't act like a angsty and angry teenager like he should, he acts like he is wizarding incorruptible superman. Take away a few of his flaws and make him as smart as Hermione at school he may as well be a gary stu.
     
  12. MonkeyEpoxy

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    ... but that's the point. He isn't an academic powerhouse. He isn't a magical god. He's good. He's simply good.

    The content of his character is great. He's a great person who loves greatly.

    That's the point of the whole story!

    Dumbledore could have trained him as a hitwizard and auror from birth with an arsenal of spells that would destroy 99% of his enemies.

    That would have never been enough to defeat the Dark Lord. Because nothing he would learn was something that Voldemort wouldn't already know how to do better.

    If it was, then Lord Voldemort would lie dead in the Atrium in book 5. For all of Dumbledore's power, for all of his knowledge, for all of his wisdom, Lord Voldemort still persevered. And, if not for Fawkes, Dumbledore would have died. That's another bit of the symbolism. It was Albus befriending Fawkes that saved his life. It was Fawkes caring for Albus that saved his life.

    Yes, Dumbledore was protecting Harry during that fight, but for all of Dumbledore's might, if Harry had faltered during his possession, none of it would have mattered!

    He won because he was a good person who learned from his mistakes and the mistakes of his enemies. A good person who cared for those around him, a good person who took the shots that a shit life threw at him, and still managed to be a good person.

    Those people exist! Not everybody falls to despair! Not everyone turtles up and hides!

    that's the whole point of the fucking story!


     
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  13. TRH

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    Still, if Harry was really being bled for money by the Weasleys, I feel like at some point his money would have been used to replace Ron's broken wand. But not only does that not happen, it also never even occurred to Harry to pay for a replacement himself throughout their second year. Almost makes you think he's the bad friend.
     
  14. Republic

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    To anyone somehow thinking that Ron isn't the coolest one in the trio, I will remind you that Ronald Bilius Weasley jacked a car at the age of 12. How many of you stole and drove a car at that age? Never mind a flying one?

    That's what I thought. Never talk shit about Ron again.
     
  15. yargle

    yargle High Inquisitor

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    Ron literally and willingly followed Harry into both a nest of his greatest fear and a basilisk containing Chamber of Secrets (well, as far as he could due to cave-in) with a broken wand. He stood between Harry and an incredibly dangerous, (presumed) mass murder with a broken leg and said "Come at me bro. I didn't hear no bell." Seriously, when it comes to ride or die friends in fantasy literature Ron is easily top 5, if not third. One and two being Samwise Gamgee and Gaul from LotR and WoT, respectively.

    I've also never really understood why people thought Harry was going to be some ultimate prodigy. Hermione told us the thesis to the whole series right before Harry faced Quirrell. Being great isn't about prodigious skill or cast knowledge: it's about being a good person.
     
  16. Slayer Singh

    Slayer Singh First Year

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    Because that prevents them from imagining Harry as a self insert that fulfils all their fantasies. You know, the morally grey greatest wizard to ever live. Of curse, if Dumbledore kinda seems like it, he is a moustache twirling villain who wants Harry's gold. It's not like he had three high paying jobs. And he certainly didn't take down the Dark Wizard that the entirety of Europe feared.

    And Ron is evil because... just because. I don't even have a terrible Fanon explanation for this.
     
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