So...

I guess some of you have been silently questioning the Brujah thing. Those I've explained it to now know about Vampire: The Masquerade.

Fuck it, I'll put it blatantly: I want somebody to write a crossover between HP and VtM. I'd be willing to help wiith lore, clans, geography, whatever, but I simply don't have the aptitude to write it. So I'm going to pose a question: Anyone want to take this up? Anybody willing to write me a story? It would certainly be an interesting project, and there's so much that you could do in the World of Darkness...

 

There is a lot that can be done via WoD. I'd even be interested in writing something to that effect but I'm afraid that my fiction writing is pretty shit. Although, I've got the WoD books to back up with lore and all that good stuff.

If you need more information on the Mage side of things instead of the Vampire side then I'll help as well. We could get some people in on it and do a group story.

 

Sweetness. Now we are two. We just need to draw a writer into the cabal. I did need a little assistance on the mages, as my encounters are limited to them doing shit like bouncing sunlight off satilites and opening gates to the sunny Sahara. And fucking fireballs.

 

Hi

Dunno if this is what you were looking for but there is atleast one HP/V:TM crossover in progress out there already. A quick search at ff.fic revealed the url as:
Take a Look Through the Masquerade
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3203849/1/

It's not bad though I wish the update rate was better and that there would be more contact with the HP world. It could also have longer chapters.

It's Harry!Vampire however so if that turns you off...

 

Considering I've played WoD games both Larp and table top for several years (one of my larp characters is over four years old now), I'm surprisingly uninterested in this idea.

The problem is that if you cross over with VtM, you also cross over with Mage and Wraith via Tremere and Giovanni canon. Mage crosses with Demon and Werewolf through the Dreamspeakers and Nephandi. Werewolf crosses with Changeling and Mummy through Fianna and Silent Striders. And so on... The World of Darkness is just that, a world. When you decide to take one of them out of the rest you degrade some of the flavor of the individual clans/tribes/conventions/etc.

 

Eh, I think a HP crossover story could be told just fine with only the vampire portion of WoD. Leave a few things out or alter them. If the result is a better story, then I don't see why that would be degrading.

Personally though, I prefer nwod. Nwod lacks the overreaching global theme that the old wod had. Everything is much more localized, which I prefer. Vampire the Requiem would make a neat crossover with Harry Potter. No Tremere or Giovanni either.

 

True, but you really don't even have to get to far into every aspect of Mage, Demon, and so on. There's a huge probability that even if Harry would encounter a Mage or Garou, he really wouldn't know anything about them. No tribes, factions, clans. And if it proves impossible to dampen the massive information load without losing essential elements of the storyline, we can turn to VtR.

Side note: I wondered about you when I saw Caitiff.

Edit: Here's a way to solve some explanation problems. Drop him in Manhattan. He'll be so busy trying to survive seaching out answers to everything will become Priority 2.

 

I think it would be easier to just look at the HP magic system through the lense of the new mage magic system. Just claim that a wand is a powerful foci which allows a mage to cast without paradox backlash. Just draw harry up a nice character sheet and that will be the limit of his abilities. And drop him in Montreal instead, much more... interesting.

 

First choice you'll have to make: are you transplanting the Harry Potter world into the WoD, or transplanting the VtM vampires into the Harry Potter world? You can't blend the two and have them both survive unscathed.

Personally, I'd recommend sweeping the whole Mage thing off the table to start with. Switch the origins of the Tremere to wizards and never mention mages, it's that easy. Then you can knock off Wraith by switching the focus of Giovanni to ghosts and inferi, and possibly keep the soul-harvesting.

You could put in all of them if you want, from Mage to Demon through to Mummy. But it would make it a hell of a lot less headache-inducing to stick with Vampire.

 

While I know of the clan/clanless that's not really what I mean. I prefer the original definition of "cowardly despicable person," I figure it might be nice to give some folks a warning.

 

That's a good idea. Good idea. Tehan is on fire! That's what I was thinking about. Hell, if we switch the Giovanni to soul-harvesting, and add Horcruxes, who better to help Harry with them?

 

While I'm at it...

Pretty much every reference to vampires in HP has been followed by a reference to them siding with Voldemort. Those would be the Sabbat. The Camarilla vampires, now, would be completely unknown to the wizards, what with that whole Masquerade thing. Chuck in their ex-wizard Tremere and they're completely off the radar when they want to be.

So with their enemy taking a side in the wizard war, the Camarilla would naturally be looking to take the other side. The Ministry is completely anti-vampire. Dumbledore is too goody-goody to side with bloodsuckers. Behind door number three, however, we have young Harry.

Let's take a moment to draw up the roster. On Voldemort's side, we have the Sabbat - Lasombra and Tzimisce, plus any turncoats. With the Camarilla, you've got the usual six clans. As for the neutrals - can't see the Setites playing a big part in an England-only war. Gangrels would probably (for the most part) stay out of it. Ravnos - well, no-one really cares about them. Assamites might show up if someone's paying them to do so.

Giovanni... ah, here's where it gets interesting. Things would be more interesting if they go up against Voldemort - when all is said and done, he's a complete psycho, and psychos being in charge is bad for business. Plus if they're on Harry's side, they would (as Mindless said) be able to lay some serious smackdown on the Horcrux front. Take a moment to consider Giovanni-Dementor relations and things get even more interesting. A Giovanni would look upon a Dementor like a goblin would look upon a creature that eats gold.

 

But all probability points to this taking place outside of England, where the Camarilla are in total control. Well, perhaps total is to strong a word. Madrid is a Sabbat strongpoint, as are New York and Philadelphia, to name a couple. Plus, and ex-wizard Tremere would be a hunted creature by the Tzimisce, and Setites would almost certainly be looking for something to gain. Ravnos would be out, Gangrel would probably do nothing without a Prince commanding the Primogen. Assamites would be one way to keep Harry on his toes. Giovanni appear to be the wild card. They are either the greatest ally or the greatest foe.

Damn, we really need someone to pick this up.

 

That's another choice that has to be made, whether this is the Masquerade vamps joining in the Voldemort war, whether Harry's buggered off somewhere (to learn, to escape, to be emo over Sirius, take your pick) and gotten caught up in vamp wars, or whether we're post-Voldemort and Harry gets caught up in escalating vamp wars.

Besides... what better way for the Sabbat to infiltrate England than under the cover of a wizard war?

 

I don't know. I'm still feeling New World as oppossed to Old. Here's why:

The elders in Europe look down on the vampires of the New World, feeling them to be decadent children that spend far too much time squabbling. The reality is far from that perception, however. In the Americas, kindred are pushed to become far stronger, far sooner. A kindred that cannot defend himself is quickly extinguished. The neonates of every clan in the New World are superior to those of the Old World in virtually every combat ability. I think the elders have no understanding of the extent of the disparity. The power the Camarilla exert over Europe has made them complacent. This story should at least begin in the New World, then move to the Old. And you're right. A wizard war would be a distraction. And Camarilla would never side with Voldemort. He is a massive danger to the Masquerade. Sabbat almost certainly would.

 

Harry wandering across the pond, stumbling across the Vampire world, siding with the Cammies in a local turf war. Learning a bit about magic from the Tremere, politics from the Ventrue and arse-kicking from the Brujah. Forms a little coterie of his own and they meander back to the old world to deliver a solid booting to Voldemort and his cronies. This is made difficult by the Sabbat joining in the fray on Voldemort's side. Optional, but not recommended: Harry being embraced. It'd turn emo WAY too easily.

I like it. The Old World of Darkness would keep it from being too generic super!Harry. And I want to see a meeting between Luna and a Malkavian.

Or see it revealed that Luna IS a Malkavian...

 

Sounds good. Only thing I might disagree with is him not being embraced. Harry lacks the spells necessary to fight a Kindred, and even the lowest Sabbat shovelhead is worth several Kine. My vote is on him being embraced by Tremere.

 

Tremere!Harry...

Aye. Aye. I like the sound of that. Taking some of the emo out of the WoD would help, though - the whole no eat, no drink, no sex, no warmth thing would make it depressing. You could spin it by saying that wizards react differently to the embrace (or possibly just the Tremere embrace - after all, they were wizards once), or make him halfway-caitiff. The only problem is making sure he doesn't get tied in to the Tremere pyramid system. Spending a few years being bounced from chantry to chantry doing mind-numbing apprentice work would not make for a good story.

This story is sounding tastier by the minute...

 

Antitribu perhaps? His sire is exstinguished and the "benevolent" local primogen takes him in? He begins a new bloodline? He runs with anarchs? The new bloodline angle would allow incorporation of new traits, i.e. eating, drinks, sex....

 

Now we're cooking with charcoal. Got to find some way to make him able to sex up the Hogwarts gals when he comes back. Tremere/wizard embrace, his scar throwing a spanner into the works, whatever works. Then his sire gets rubbed out, and he starts running with the underdogs - anarchs, junior Cammies, maybe a low-level Giovanni. Then he can start his own little offshoot of Tremere when he gets back home. After all, he'd need to make allies he can trust beyond his coterie when he shows up in England with fangs, and what form of trust more sure than between sire and childe? It'll also be good for building a harem.