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Reviews of Deathly Hallows

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BioPlague, Jul 21, 2007.

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Star Rating

  1. 5 Stars (Be careful choosing this, I've made votes public)

    6.3%
  2. 4 Stars

    26.7%
  3. 3 Stars

    29.4%
  4. 2 Stars

    19.6%
  5. 1 Stars

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  1. Xanatos

    Xanatos Professor

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    To be honest, I was really happy, I expected fuck all after the last book, but I was pleasently surprised I will leave cannon HP happy at the end (except the 'NINETEEN YEARS LATER!>>>>>", that was shitty)

    I had no high standards this time, it had terrible bits, I hated how long they spent just sitting about mentioning places the horcrux might be, I hated how the DE could trace you by saying Voldemort, I hated Ginny and I hated a lot of stuff already said.

    However, Harry took people on, wasn't a pussy, I kinda liked that. I liked breaking into Lestranges Vault, the Dumbledore backstory was good, and I felt JK had her best writing of the whole series when Harry was walking to his death, in those few paragraph's I felt she built it up really well.

    I liked how ron was a knob, he is a knob and should be shown as one. Neville kicked ass, as did the defence of Hogwarts, some pretty cool magic was used.

    Overall, a 4/5, but it still had some serious flaws, Super!Molly made me want to chuck it down however, my poor Bella :(
     
  2. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    I liked the Molly/Bella scene. Made me cackle. Too bad Bella missed Ginny with the Killing Curse though. :\
     
  3. Raijin

    Raijin Slug Club Member

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    And being a bookworm for the past 6 years will typically do that to a person and Harry should be impressed or mindboggeled by his own idiocy.

    I am kinda curious though does the chest-monster show up again? I've only read the synopsis so far.
     
  4. The Silent Knight

    The Silent Knight Seventh Year

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    I don't care what people say, I, for one, liked it. Yes, there was some rather... strange moments in the book, and there were definitley some bits I wasn't expecting, but on the whole I found the book satisfying.

    5/5 from me, and I don't care if any of you want to bitch at me for liking it. One point I do agree on is that fanfiction has spoiled us. I think that if some of you had never read fanfiction, then you would have enjoyed the book a lot more than you did. Reading an idea from another story and wanting it to come true in the real book is only natural, but when that doesn't happen, calling the book shit and completely insulting it is going to far.

    Oh and sorry about any spelling mistakes, I'm dead tired at the moment.
     
  5. Lady Almaren

    Lady Almaren Seventh Year

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    So I work at best buy and we just got the books in today. So of course before the store opened I skimmed through it. And nearly got fired for attempting to damage merchandise. Dear Lord what the hell was up with that ending!!!! I tried to give it a chance. I really did. As I was skimming through some things jumped out at me such as Molly killing Bella and Neville actually doing something worthwhile for once so I thought it would balance out some how. Then I saw the epilogue. My coworkers gave me the oddest look. I seemed to have my jaw hanging open as I read the sugary, honey covered, goodness that was the ending. Then a friend took it from me before I slammed it back on the table.

    So in short, the book sucked, swallowed, and called you back the next day to have a meaningful talk about your relationship. 1/5.
     
  6. Vengashii

    Vengashii Banned

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    I must have missed it, but what the bloody fucking hell was the "power the Dark Lord knows not" ?
     
  7. Antivash

    Antivash Until we meet again... DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Really? Because this is how I describe pretty much everything you write. I fail to see you coming up with groundbreaking, awe inspiring stories. Where the hell is your novel series, you pretentious cunt-fart? Have you been given such high praise by anything other than mindless sheep?

    Until otherwise, Shut the hell up.

    Now as for my opinion of the book? It was far better than HBP and came close to surpassing OotP. To be honest, the book lacks. Horridly, it lacks. but there were some epic fucking moments in the book.

    I wont deny I don't include the epilogue as canon. It was the worst part of the book and completely ruined everything about it.

    But the book is worth a 3 at least, and a 4 in my opinion.

    The rest of you mindless fucking shitheads need to stop voting until you've actually bothered to read the damned thing. Live a little and think. It doesn't hurt that much.
     
  8. Xiph0

    Xiph0 Yoda Admin

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    Selflessness. He accepted death, and Voldemort fled from it.
     
  9. BioPlague

    BioPlague The Senate DLP Supporter

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    "If you know you are going to fail, then fail gloriously."

    The people who voted 5 or 4 had low expectations.

    - Albus Severus
    - The Power-He-Knows-Not is really pointless.
    - Cop-out ending where Harry gambles that the Eldar Wand belongs to Draco and no duel in comparison to the duel in Order of the Phoenix takes place.
    - Hermione knowing how to modify her parents memory one moment, and then not knowing later on? And then knowing how to modify the memory later on? Let's not even discuss that she's a Mudblood and that Mudbloods are portrayed as mistreated people who had no choice.

    So what does she do? Take away her parent's choice by mindwiping them. We don't even get a confirmation that she asked them and realistically, do you think her parents would consent? Fuck no.

    And they shouldn't have to.
    - Voldemort again being shown to be born evil. Voldemort never had a choice. And let's not forget the Half-Blood Prince. We spend countless pages discussing his history but where does that come into play? Where do we see - well, fuck, he did that in his past, so let me use that to my advantage.

    We don't.
    - Horcruxes take a backseat to another newly invented Deus Ex Machina - the Deathly Hallows. Where do we get the hints in the previous books? Where do we, the reader, go - oh wow! That's been there the entire time! Wow, that was clever.

    The reader doesn't get that. It comes out of left field and beats the fuck out of the reader. Three godly items that randomly exist in Book 7. How can anyone have guessed a mystery ending when nothing was on the table until the last book?

    There's no way anyone could've guessed - well, Voldemort's curse is going to rebound because Dumbledore possesses the Eldar Wand, which can only be passed on... yada, yada, yada. We can't. It's cheap and it's Rowling proven to not have had anything. Anyone would've figured it out and so she didn't show anything.
    - Lily. Insane amounts of information on Lily and James. Wait. There isn't. So another lie by the author.
    - Sending your children to Death Eater run school. Excellent.
    - Misspelled character names (Barry Crouch), gaping plot holes, long run-on sentences and a general sense that Rowling didn't give a shit.

    You're fucking retarded if you gave this story a five. You had low expectations from Half-Blood Prince and are using it as an excuse to give this pile of shit a pass when it's a cop-out to 17 years of supposed buildup.

    There is absolutely jackshit grabbed nor spun from the previous six novels (except Half-Blood Prince and that's mostly Snape's roll).
     
  10. Xiph0

    Xiph0 Yoda Admin

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    What the fuck? Are you a Harmonian?
     
  11. BioPlague

    BioPlague The Senate DLP Supporter

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    Anyone who writes a post-OOTP (sixth year) fanfic with horcruxes must be a Harmonian then.
     
  12. Anlun

    Anlun Denarii Host

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    I give it a 3.5/4 rounding up on the poll. I liked it, but I knew what I was going to get when I bought it. Fan fiction will always skew your perception of a book if you're not careful. I would have loved nothing more then to see Bellatrix string Ginny by her hair and kick her ass, but thats what I want, not what the story does.

    Overall I thought she did a pretty commendable job in redeeming herself. The plot imo followed so closely to "cliches" because cliches are the most likely outcome for the books. Ginny and Harry was already told in the 6th book so we knew it was going to happen. We know Harry is not an Uber wizard so something would have to be created to have him stop Voldemort. Horcrux hints were scattered throughout the books, so clever fanfic writers would eventually get them right. These are things that really aren't her fault. We want a story were Harry would be badass, but that's something we knew we weren't going to get.

    Now for things i enjoyed:

    Making a name Taboo. I thought that was a cool aspect of Magic that will most likely be used in fanfiction to come. It also explains better why people still say You-know-who, even when they thought him dead.

    Manipulative Dumbledore- Yes it was overdone in fanfiction but I much rather have that then sage hearts and kisses Dumbledore.

    concept of goblin metal, and how it gets stronger by absorbing the properties of things (basilisk venom).

    Breaking into Gringotts. I thought that was an interesting touch, as it would make sense to hide a Horcrux there.

    Constantly on the move. I thought it was done well how Hermione, Ron and Harry had to constantly move around in order to be safe. I prefer that then them just being in Grimmauld Place plotting.

    The Hallows. While not executed well this plot device will be pretty interesting to work with in fan fiction so I enjoyed it. I liked how the Invisibility Cloak was one of the Hallows.

    Scenes discussing wand theory.

    Bellatrix getting killed by Mrs.Weasley. Now I know people here probably hated that scene because there seems to be a love for Bellatrix around here but I thought it was smart of Rowling to do that. It was original, not done in fanfiction and it made sense. I think what she was going for was the strength of a mother, or a woman scorned kind of thing. I'm glad she did that instead of Neville getting vengeance or some other bullshit.

    Snape's death. That was actually pretty cool

    Things I did not like:

    Uber Hermione. Okay I understand she the brightest witch of her age but come on. Let someone else do something. I thought it was a bit of a cop out to have Hermione knowing everything and having everything in her Deus Ex Machina bag 'o' wonders.

    Epilogue. 'nough said. This was lamer then lame. I can understand the names of Harry's kids because while cliche in fanfiction it would make sense to name your child after the parents who sacrificed their lives so that you could live. Its annoying to me but I can stomach it. What I can't stand is Rowling completely forgot to mention anything about anyone else. Hows George dealing with having a dead twin? Does he still run the shop, and make jokes? How's the ministry of magic rebuilding itself? What does Harry, Ron and Hermione do for work? These are all just a few of the million question that should of been answered. I just cut that out of the book entirely as most will as well. No biggie.

    How did the sword for Gryffindor get back in the hat? Last we left Griphook
    had it.

    Kreature and his 180 in personality. That was crap. He was supposed to be the anti-Dobby, representing everything Dobby wasn't. And then to have him lead a house-elf army was utter crap. I also didn't buy the reason Rowling gave for the trio not calling him to ask for his help while in the tent.
    There are more but I can't really remember them. I'll write I as I remember.
     
  13. Vengashii

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    I thought the Taboo was pretty cool too. It gave the spineless pricks in the wizarding world a reason to be spineless pricks.

    Also, the quotations at the beginning of the book were a nice touch. I appreciated mainly because i had read them before. ^_^
     
  14. Vtigo

    Vtigo Second Year

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    Im sorry but voldy dieing by his own fucking hand? WTF I dont care if the dumbass elder wand did it on harrys behalf it is still soooooo much bullshit.
     
  15. AnnF

    AnnF First Year

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    I hated that they didn't try anything to end the imperius curse. C'mon at least a finite as they fled.

    Thinking the dumbest thing in the world is the refusing Remus in the beginning - seeing lots of what if stories starting there. And the whole stupefy as their strongest curse.. augh.
     
  16. cucio

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    If you try to expand the logical implications of the ability of setting up a nationwide taboo it will reveal itself as the plotshit it is, like felix felicis et al.

    E.g., why wouldn't then a legit ministry place a taboo on the unforgivables, on the expression 'Death Eater', etc.

    As with most JKR production, she just craps it out and expects people not to draw logical conclusions. It kills any potential suspension of disbelief.
     
  17. Xiph0

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    Nope, just the ones who rewrite the book simply because they disagree with canon.
     
  18. BioPlague

    BioPlague The Senate DLP Supporter

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    Lots of people write the books differently because they disagree with canon. Some on this site view HBP as non-canon and reinvent it not with the intention to explore new ideas or just make fanfiction but to rewrite it as they believe it should've been done. They do it in there own special way, whether that be a Year6 story "as it should've been done" or grabbing pieces of HBP and remaking the story around their favorite ship or type of Harry.

    Fanfiction exists to fulfill our desires of "what if it were my way." That can extend to hatred and disagreement of canon and the desire to rewrite it.

    It may be difficult to see that from the perspective of your own fandom, but gaze at Star Wars fanfiction or Lord of the Rings or Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Much of it revolves not around writing new plots but instead rewriting that which already exists. Some of it has to do with shipping, some of it does not.

    And I'd love Post OOTP fanfiction with the goal of utilizing canon and inserting an intelligent Harry who becomes a dynamic character who isn't a fuckstick. Light romance, bit less deus ex machina and concentration on characterisation and a coherent plot that doesn't come out of left field.
     
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  19. Xiph0

    Xiph0 Yoda Admin

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    There's a big difference between rewriting the book (ie, copy/pasting and editing) and fanfiction, the nigra I was talking to said:

    Which is exactly what they did with HBP, thus my comment.
     
  20. BioPlague

    BioPlague The Senate DLP Supporter

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    Again... don't see the parallel with a ship that wanted to copy word for word most of the chapters (which is plagiarism) and change Harry/Ginny to Harry/Hermione.

    Rewriting the two last books to a DLPer probably means abandoning everything. The first thing I thought of was The Office when I thought of DLP members penning the story. And beyond that, I expect mostly originality save for usage of the plot points. Again, all I see is a Year 6 and Year 7 fic that is "done DLP".

    There aren't any, frankly, but there's always a lot of talk about it.
     
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