Fiction is fiction, whether it's fanfiction or original fiction. She doesn't get a free pass.

A lot of these complaints are the result of a simple question:

If it was fanfiction, would I think this was bullshit?

Some comparisons are inane: no, Harry was never going to use his birthday present from Ron to acquire a harem of dark concubines, in-character as that might be for certain stories popular here. Everything else is fair game.

The absolute minimum bar for a fantasy author is internal consistency. Crazy magic, space-weapons, whatever, but if you say "up is down" then up has to stay fucking down.

The Taboo was a decent idea, but why didn't the ministry use the same thing for "avada kedavra", "imperio", "morsmordre" etc.? Cue Chewbacca Defense: it just does not make sense. I'd care less if its purpose in the story couldn't have been served by a less problematic plot device. It just feels like carelessness on her part.

The Hallows were interesting, but the wand mastery thing is ridiculous -- thousands of castings of expelliarmus say so -- and the new theory about the invisibility cloak doesn't fit its treatment in every other book.

Reveals are supposed to make previously unexplained events fall cleverly into place, not raise continuity questions.

 

What in the world do you mean by that...

That was the problem..there was sh!t in the book..and quite a lot of it. Whatever HBP was, DH was the last book in the series, the foutainhead of 7 books, 10 years... It was supposed to be epic, it was supposed to be beautiful. Plotsholes were supposed to be tied up; new ones should not have been created. Charecters were supposed to grow, or at least change. If Harry can use the cruciatus, why not the more lethal, non-legal spells? Ronald, the jock. Severus the pinning man. Brave, but stuck in the past. Clever, very very clever, smart enough to trick Voldemort but could not get his mind out of the past. Manipulative Dumbledore was great! as well as totally expected.

So many flaws and so many high's. It's stupid to ignore one group and just place the other in the spotlight. As a novel, DH does not live up to, atleast, my expectations.

3/5.

Ps. Have you read some of the official reviews? They are So licking her ass.

 

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1 - Voldemort's name is made Taboo, the Trio doesn't know it yet, but Ron suddenly becomes and uber-coward and forces them to stop saying is name. Rather handy, and annoying.

2 - There's really no reason for his sudden turn-about. He began tolerating the name being said around him, and without Voldemort even showing up, he's suddenly gotten the willies.

3 - Ron doesn't seem to belong to any house, what so ever. No wit, Intelligence, cunning, ambition, patience, hardwork, nobility or bravery.

Mostly just a streak of rashness about a mile wide.

 

Whoever would have thought that it would be the final Harry Potter novel that would divide DarkLordPotter? :lol: :lol:

 

You guys are driving me nuts. Its this sucks no this sucks more. No this sucks worst.

This book was good.

Cliches dont count when this is canon. To us its cliche but not when she is the goddess of the Harry Potter Universe. She can do whatever she wants and get away with it because 1.) she gets paid, 2.) she invented it, 3.) its hers check the copyright.

Neville needs a series. Neville kicked ass in this book in a way that makes Voldemort look like a cute little baby.

Griphook I just didnt like sorry but I dont.

By the Way I agree completely with Sree and Vash.

Overall this book was good. It was Epic in places(not the ending or middle camping portion). I think some of you are mad because you didnt think of it first. Even the bad parts were far better than most fanon.

Best Line: "Come over here Ron so I can do you."

 

I believe Dawlish is supposed to have been suffering from being Confounded throughout the whole book. I don't think Neville said he was weak, just that the Ministry only sent one guy because his gran is a little old lady and she pwned him.

Re: cliches, of course it's possible for something to be cliche in canon, though I agree that the standard is a little different. Manipulative!Dumbledore doesn't become a cliche just because he's been showing up in fanfiction for a while. But a small group setting out on a secret quest to destroy the source of an evil wizard's power? Come on.

It's frustrating because the first five books avoided a lot of standard fantasy cliches/plotlines, and it didn't really seem necessary to fall into them in the last two. Especially with the introduction of the Deathly Hallows the Frodo/Harry parallels were pretty annoying.

I still liked the book, I think it was better than most fantasy out there. However, I think the last two books could have been something really special, and they just weren't.

 

Sorry, what? All I'm hearing is a cunt.

You and Xiph0 view people expressing their dislike for the book as following BioPlague. This isn't a judicial court where the votes (which are overwhelmingly against the book) decide whether this book is good or not and I'm writing the opinion for it.

Interesting, as I said, that this phrase seems to be the disclaimer note in almost every 4/4 and 4/5. You explain that there's shit in the story, there's things you dislike and that the epilogue is terrible.

Then you guys decide, hey, you know - I guess I'll view this story as something other than an entire story and remove the Epilogue while reviewing it.

So you're disregarding terrible fanservice and the "shit" in this story so you can start shit like "Stop bandwagoning with BioPlague guyz" and rate it 5/5 - awesome.

I guess IP82 must be in league with me. I guess jbern must be in league with me. I guess all these people must be bandwagoning the Court Jester Train because I can force people like jbern and ip82 to find this story lacking.

And you know what's pathetic? That you're targeting jbern in a thread for reviewing a story that I gave everyone the right to review for reasons other than his review. This isn't about Jbern's stories. I didn't say - "Hey, if you like this, go in another thread" or "Hey, if you hate this, post here." I gave my review, explained my dismay and then went indepth on why I believed the story was bad.

While you and Xiph0 are discussing in a private chat about "No one having the balls to smack him while he's being an arrogant bitch" - yeah, because reviewing a story critically and with passion is unheard of on DarkLordPotter.net.

You guys are being incredibly moronic in this instance. I don't claim to hold sway over the staff, pretend to be the staff or anything of that sort. Perhaps the reason people are agreeing with me is because they read the book and weren't easily thrilled by the following:

-- Gaping inaccuracies
-- Retcon
-- Inventing new plot ideas in the 7th Book that don't connect with any other book
-- Character assassination
-- Cop-outs
-- Poor writing
-- Albus Severus Potter

In closing, this is a thread for reviews and discussion of reviews. I may be guilty of targeting others (I believe I called people moronic for rating it 5/5) but that's nothing like targeting someone's fanfiction stories inappropriately. Not every thread has to descend into Civil War and I certainly didn't start this. If you're disappointed people find my opinions to be worthy of repeating, then all I can offer is my sincerest apologies.

 

The way to do it and prevent all this crap (dunno why you'd want to, but still)... is to not give your opinion. People are sheep by nature, and knowing this, it amazes me that Amerision isn't a slut (as far as I know). Weak minds tend to follow the first opinion they see. But it still doesn't mean every single person who said 1-2/5 was just following the bandwagon.

 

I want two votes. 4/5 for everything up until page 656 (which I may get tattooed somewhere on my body), 1/5 for everything after. Absolute zero for the epilogue. It does not exist. She only put it there because she didn't want to write in the Potterverse anymore and was afraid of someone throwing another billion dollars at her in order to get her to do so. Nonexistent. Like that Superman comic where he was raised in the USSR.

I think everything up until Snape's death was very solid and fun. Did deus ex machinas, massive plot holes, and continuity errors abound like bastard children in a whorehouse? Of course. But that's always been the case with JKR's work, so I can live with it.

Fact is, she got them out of Hogwarts (which I was afraid she wouldn't do), got them in fairly cool, if slightly unimaginative adventures, and even had the balls to torture Hermione, have Harry use the Unforgivables, and touch on the formerly off-limits potential love triangle. I give her props for that.

There were problems with the first four-fifths of the book, of course. Ron has never been more useless, and I'm pretty sure my Slytherin Harry is going to kill him during seventh year (framing Malfoy, of course). And the first chapter was just stupid. We get it, the Death Eaters are bad guys. You don't have to show them killing some teacher we've never heard of to prove the point, and if you want a reaction, string McGonagall's ass up there and be done with it.

I would have used the first chapter to show Hermione Memory Charming her parents to believe that she doesn't exist. That's real conflict and emotion. Show a normal day at the Granger household, build the reader to believe that Death Eaters are about to attack, then when Dad asks Hermione to pass the jam, she whips out her wand and does the deed.

Damn, I might need to write that.

She ruined Kreacher. If you wanted a happy, doting elf, just use Dobby. Kreacher was fine the way he was.

Griphook. Excuse me while I projectile vomit. Use a different fucking goblin. Any fucking goblin, I don't care. Just not him.

Wormtail's death sucked. No meaning. No purpose. In fact, the only deaths in the book that meant anything were Snape's (grin) and Voldemort.

Which brings me to...

THAT FUCKING SLACK-CUNTED WHORE MURDERED HEDWIG!!! For no reason.

But like I said, I mostly enjoyed everything up until page 656. Afterwards... dear God, that sucked. I actually gagged a little while reading about "The Prince's Tale". It was the same shit that Barb did years ago, only worse. Harry dying and visiting Dumbledore? (squats and shits all over it) The whole convoluted idiocy about how Dumbledore beat Grindelwald, then was beaten by Snape, but not really because it was Draco who was beaten by Harry, who can't be hurt by the Deathstick? (explosive Hershey squirts)

There was no epilogue. We will never speak of it again. It's not that I hate Ginny, at least not the way most people here do. I've used her in my fics before and I think that she can still be a worthwhile character in the right hands (which do not belong to JKR), but I know why she did it, and I lost some respect for her. I make it a point not to bash JKR for no reason. Even the Hedwig thing can be forgiven, but not pussing out because she was bored with the character and didn't want to be bothered with writing him anymore. I'd be just as angered if she'd done it with Luna or Hermione, my preferred canon ships.

Big D

Edit (probably the first of many): Someone tell me if I'm wrong here, but snakes don't have ears, right? Contemplate that fact for a moment and explain to me how Ron can fake parceltongue? It's a magical language for a reason, because you have to have the magic behind it to work. Snakes can't hear you speak, therefore how can any amount of hissing open the door to the Chamber of Secrets?

That's not just bad writing, it's stupid. Add another two pages to your 749-page book and tell the story correctly.

Second Edit: The Taboo thing was really cool, and I plan to use it somewhere.

Third Edit: Lots of pans for Hermione here, but I thought she was fairly well done. JKR has always presented her as the brains of the outfit, so I didn't mind all the references to her planning ahead, and I liked that she didn't always handle pressure well, except when she was being tortured.

JKR gets another plus for Harry trying to think of a way out while Hermione was screaming, while Ron just screamed back and did nothing. Might have to give the first 656 pages a 4.5 now that I think about it.

 

I'll just clear up my view simply here.

There were parts I didn't like. However, on the vast whole I enjoyed the story. The parts I enjoyed out weighed the parts I didn't; thus the 4/5 score.

Epilogue: It was a good epilogue. On a personal level I disliked that a)Harry was married to Ginny, and b)that Albus' middle name was Severus. Those two elements, however, fit into the context of the story as written by J.K. Rowling. Setting my personal dislike of those two, relatively minor really, aspects aside the epilogue was good. It provided closure to a story 10 years in the making.

The Deathly Hollows: This was an interesting aspect of the story imo. Many people seem to be complaining that we had never had any indication of them coming, but so what? It's not like a superweapon that was just handed to Harry without any backstory or explanation. Many, many stories introduce the key to victory at the end. Rowling did a fairly decent job of introducing them in an interesting, and in character, method. Could it have been better? Sure, but it wasn't done badly and certainly wasn't a story-killer.

The Characters: This is one of the areas I'm torn on. To the degree that the characters were true to canon I have no complaints. On a personal level I do feel that they didn't grow as much as I'd have liked.

One area that many people have been complaining about is that Harry was willing to use 2 of the unforgiveables, but not the third. Frankly, in this I think Rowling did brilliantly. It would have been totally out of character for him to start killing people left, right, and center. Yet, by having him willingly use the Imperius and Crucio it showed that he was growing, maturing, into someone who understood that you have to take the gloves off at times.

He grew a backbone, so to speak, but still held to his moral position on murder. Sure, I'd have liked to see him off a few annoying characters :coughdracocough:, but at the same time I'm glad Rowling kept him in character.

Ron was Ron. That's all there is to it. He's been the faithless sidekick from the start. He's a coward to always redeems himself in one move, but then pissed you off again a moment later. I never did expect great things from him, but was happily surprised by him in this book. The scene with him destroying the locket was well played. It showed his fears and a bit of who he really was and what he thought. Sure there's room for improvement, but there always is.

Hermione's knowledge of every spell was a bit annoying. Her handy hand-bag-of-holding did have the feel of a cop-out. However, she was the character I'd come to expect with a little improvement. She still tended to choke under preasure, and she still flatly refused to believe that Harry's ideas might be right. No, there wasn't a lot of character growth here, but at the same time they're 17 years old. They aren't meant to mature and grow a whole hell of a lot between 16 and 17. (and to all the teens I just offended...get real.)

Lupin, in my opinion, was well portrayed for the bit he was seen. His initial attempt to run away from his wife and unborn child fit the character. His self-esteme has always been non-existant if you look at his canon interactions with other characters. It's part of why he's so soft spoken according to the earlier books. Yet, as portrayed earlier in the books, his friendship with James and Sirius was what had helped him overcome those feelings. Thus, Harry did what he needed to do and slapped Lupin back into thinking clearly. It was excellent and I applaud Rowling for putting it in.

Voldemort as usual was enjoyable. Rowling portrays him as egotistical to a fault, and yet still dangerous and powerful. That's how he's been depicted since day one, and for the Archvillain you can't expect change.

Dumbledore's backstory and characterization were, in my opinion, perfect. He was human and for the previously epic-hero-worhty Headmaster you don't get any better. There were flaws, darkness, and true humanity in the man. His backstory and reasons for doing what he did were one of the reasons I truely enjoyed this book. The "Hollows not Horcruxes" aspect was perfect in my opinion despite most people's views.

The Name Taboo: This, in my opinion, was a sweet addition to the story. A few people have complained saying it was out of context, but I disagree. Like a few others have said it explains where the You-Know-Who and He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named concepts came from during the first War. As to why the Ministry didn't use a similar taboo for the Unforgiveables or why the Order didn't use one for <insert idea here>; I'd say it goes back to Voldemort. The man was a master of magic others had never even thought of. I'd say this is just one of those things he created to add to the horror that was Lord Voldemort.

The Final Battle: Frankly I applaud Rowling for the method she used in the final battle. Not because I think it was so epic and uber, but because it fit the story she had been telling. Harry has never been the Dumbledore-style hero who's magical skills and power were awe-inspiring. Yes, he has his moments and that's what we see in this final battle.

Throughout the 7 books we learn that Voldemort's ultimate downfall is his own ego. He believes himself perfect and all powerful. He would never believe that a 17 year old half-blood like Harry would know something about the properties of wands that he did not. It proved to be his undoing.

Was the final fight a let down in how epic it was? Not at all in my opinion. Again, it fit with the characters. Voldemort was never destined to go out in a Blaze of Glory with Harry flinging god-like spells at him. That would have been so far out of canon that I'd have cried.

The Wand Issue: Maybe I'm the only one that really read what Rowling wrote in this regard. Just disarming someone with a spell doesn't pass ownership of the wand. As many have pointed out that would have people changing wands constantly in school. What I got from Rowling explanation was that there has to be a defeat involved: a true and unquestionable defeat.

I could go on and on about the other aspects of the story. All in all I felt it was a good book and I enjoyed it a lot. The disappointments were fewer by far than I had expected and the "ohh cool" moments were far greater.

 

Sorry, what inaccuracies? She is the creator of the effing HP universe; I'm pretty sure that she can keep herself on track. This is not fanfiction, nor is she an amateur writer.

99% of what people are pointing to as "bad" or "terrible" are just so because loads of people on this site believe in super!uber!dark!Harry, and just because he had the power that TMR knew not (i.e. being self-sacrificing, honorable, etc), you feel like you need to bash the story?

I have news for you, guys and girls. Not everyone likes a story where the main character tortures and kills for fun. Not everyone enjoys a main character who will do anything to win; in fact, that's what makes Harry more endearing to the vast majority. He's noble, and he refuses to sink to TMR's level, even if it would mean a speedier resolution to the prophecy.

As far as continuity and plot goes, I think she did a wonderful job of tying everything up (barring the epilogue, which I think everyone hated). I'm shocked that no one really questioned DD--at all--throughout the entire series. Yeah there was the fandom cliché about him being evil, and yeah it was amusing for the first few good stories that I read it in, but c'mon, guys. This is DD, chief wizard of the Light since the 1940s. If he were really evil, or if he were really good, he wouldn't still be at the forefront of the public eye.

Proof of that? Harry is the epitome of good. In the epilogue, he's stepped back from everything and is happily raising a family. As far as evil goes, I'll just point to DEs and Grindelwald. Both were taken down when they spent too long in the public sphere as the notion of "pure evil".

So, it was readily apparent to me that DD wasn't very evil, but he had to be just a bit in order to manipulate and shape the way the future was to progress (and how about that, huh? He predicted pretty much everything that was to happen, down to Harry giving up his life in order to take down TMR). While some may argue that what DD did was just because JKR wanted him to appear as a good guy in everyone's book, I'll just point out that she is the author.

It's not really a deus ex machina if it's not a god-like solution to all of the problems posed in the story. Which I can't think of anything that would be, other than the DH.

In regards to that, the DH was easily believable, and not only that, rang true to what JKR has been writing in the past 6 books. Harry's cloak, if you read critically, has always been mentioned as special. Go back and read about the parts where the other order members have had invisibility cloaks and you'll realize that Harry knew they were there, even if they were invisible. Harry had never been caught in his cloak, except for when he was around DD, and that's pretty much just DD tossing his Legillimency around, same with what Snape was doing before he was sacked.

No, it's not perfect. Yes, she did seem to borrow heavily from some fanfiction clichés. But you know what? She's had the entire plot planned out for some 15 years. That fanfiction authors have mimicked some of her ideas is not shocking; there should at least be some authors out there who are close in their thinking to JKR (i.e. Harry is a Horcrux, etc).

Most of you need to stop looking at this book through the lens of fanfiction and start looking at it as a novel; because this isn't fanfiction, no matter how much like the good fanfics you've read this seems. This is canon, and it far eclipsed any expectations I had for DH after Half-Baked Plot.

And no, HBP didn't lower my expectations any. I know someone would bring that up, but I honestly believed she took a step down with OotP and HBP, though less so with OotP.

Anyway, I'd give it a 4.75/5, leaving out a quarter of a point because of the epilogue, but for the book itself, I'd give it a 5/5. DD's past made the entire book, and I literally could not stop turning pages. Hell, I didn't even eat dinner last night because I was so enthralled in the book.

A worthy end to a great series. I just hope it ends here.

 

Took me fourteen hours, but I finished it. There were a lot of things I didn't like (like Ron managing to get into the Chamber, and Ginny), but the list of things that I did like is much longer. I liked that she didn't send Harry back to school. I liked the idea of the Hollows, and that Harry was worthy of them (though not that he gave them up). And I love the depictions of Snape, Dumbledore, and Neville. The only reason I voted 4 instead of 5 was because of the epilogue.

Edit: Also, I firmly believe that using Griphook the Goblin was Rowling poking fun at the authors of fanfiction. Just to show that she reads it.

 

Ok. I'm going to destroy your entire post with very little, ok?

George Lucas.

Sup, didn't Harry use four unforgiveables? You're mistaking my dislike for thinking this should be a DLP story. It shouldn't. I've explicitly said numerous times that DLP and canon should be kept separate. If anything, this story is the most DLP. Doesn't make it good.

Four unforgiveables.

Sup, Dumbledore didn't know Voldemort would give Harry his blood, didn't know about horcruxes until late in the game but was ready to let Harry die at the age of 1 and even after Voldemort's first defeat.

For the Greater Good is still apart of Dumbledore, regardless of whether or not Harry forgives him. The author can do it, of course they can. The author can also create midichlorians and give the role of Darth Vader to Hayden Christianson.

Doesn't make it good. Sorry dipshit.

What does fanfiction have to do with it? She borrowed heavily from Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Spider-Man 2 and various other stories in the last book. She had nothing. There was nothing in the first 6 books that gave the sense that what happened in Book 7 might happen.

That's a cop-out.

Limbo (King's Cross). Creating three items in the last 300 pages and retconning the Invisibility Cloak instead of using what was already created up until that point. Authors need to have everything on the table in a series before going into the last book. Creating such items of significance and power in the last book is a cop-out and a deus ex machina. It's as if God came in and decided to save Harry, who would have no chance.

Realize that. Without the Eldar Wand, Harry's got nothing except the sacrificial death.

Let's not forget discussing with dead people. That's not freaky nor a cop-out.

 

You know, we get the fact that you dislike the book. I believe you've made your views very clear on what you expected the book to be and how you feel it was a let down in all regards. You have also shown that you are willing to totally disregard other people's opinions and different points of view by insulting their reviews and thoughts.

That's wonderful for you. I hope you can find a way to utilize your 7 books as coasters or perhaps something to prop-up that wobbly kitchen table. God knows you surely wouldn't want to read and enjoy them again. I mean, how horrible it must be for you to have purchased such a horrible series of books and now have no use for them. Surely they aren't worth reading again now that they have proven to be sub-par in all regards.

Luckily, those of us that did enjoy the series now have 7 books we can reread at our whim for entertainment. We haven't lifted outselves to the lofty position of Ultimate Fiction Critic, as you have, and can still enjoy a good read. My god, I mean I can even still go to the Harry Potter movies and have a good time. How truely sad for me eh?

Thank merciful heavens we have you around though Bio. To tell us how rotten all things-Rowling are. To show us the true path of how fiction should be written in your expert and ultimate opinion. I'll just send you a list of the books and movies I'm considering enjoying in the future and you can save me all the time and energy of thinking for myself. Surely, if I dared to see something you didn't approve of and I voiced my positive opinion of it you would feel the need to show me the error of my ways. Why waste all that time though when I can just come to you first?

All sarcasm aside: Shut it Bio. Your views are all-too-well known now. There's no need to continue insulting other people's differing opinions. You, and many others, didn't like the book and have shared why. Now, others have shared why they did like the book. Guess what: no one is right, and no one is wrong. Let people share, but don't keep needling them on why you think they're idiots and are wrong in their opinions.

The same goes for the people poking at those that didn't like the book. Yes, I got my parting shot in at them, but it was all of ten words. This post has nothing to do with the opinions one way or the other; it has to do with people insulting one another's opinions and getting uppity. It doesn't matter if you liked the book or not. This thread is for "reviews"; it's for people to share what they thought and what they liked/disliked. Last time I looked "review" did not mean "insult" or "belittle" another person's review. There are other threads for that.

Oh, and because I know someone's childish enough to do it:

1. Feel free to negrep me.
2. Feel free to reply letting me know I'm not an Mod or Admin and to shut the hell up.
3. Feel free to insult me until the cows come home.

 

It's called replying. It's a back and forth thing. If it was just a review rather than a criticism of my review, I wouldn't reply, obviously.

Theophany has gone on two sites now (FFAuthors.net and DLP.net) to criticize those who hold the opinion this story is bad.

 

I was criticizing your review because you have unreasonable aims and expectations. That you continue to post "LALALA NOT LISTENING" posts just makes it that much more clear.

Yeah, there are parts of Star Wars, etc in her plot. It'ld be hard to have a plot without good or evil, and while yes, Harry did use the Cruciatus and Imperius, he only did it when there was literally no other option. Had he done anything differently, he more than likely would have never gotten Hufflepuff's Cup.

You can sit there and whine about "but she pulled the DH out of her ass in the last 300 pages!" all you want, but there have been indications that Harry's cloak wasn't a normal cloak since the very beginning. As was pointed out in DH, DD didn't need Harry's cloak to turn invisible, so why did he borrow it? Why did he have it in the first place, when it was James'?

As far as "Limbo" as you call it, that was the DH. I guess you missed that part? Harry had united all of the DH under his control; remember that he was the rightful owner of the Elder Wand?

And it's no as if I'm going on both sites declaiming your opinion and anyone else's opinion as wrong; I'm simply stating that one way or another, you would have found reasons to hate DH. Had DH been another HBP, I would have been right beside you, but it's not. It very clearly ties all of the loose ends regarding the past of the HP universe (or more specifically, TMR), and saying that "she introduced the solution to everything in the last 300 pages" is kind of a no-shit idea.

What would be the point if there was a very clearly identified power that Harry needed to harness/obtain to defeat Voldemort? The books wouldn't be nearly as interesting, since there would be no twists, nor large elements of surprise.

What would happen if Harry had been powerful enough on his own to duel down Voldemort?

90% of the people that read the book would complain, saying that it's unreasonable that a 17 year old wizard can duel down someone with 50+ years of experience in magic, who is also one of the most powerful sorcerers of all time.

It'd be nice if you had kept an open mind, but I see what most fanfic readers are like; close-minded. That most stories involved a super!Harry in fandom is irrelevant I suppose.

But I agree with you about one thing: the traveling was over-done and tried to make HP into LOTR. It doesn't work, because there was no end in sight that they were traveling to. But that's one minor part of the book that can be overlooked, as there was literally tons of information she threw at us at the same time.

In any case, yes, congrats; you can flame people on the internet about a children's book with the best of them. You have a hard time enjoying works of fiction that are well-written, and you're cynical to an extreme. I congratulate you on your massive achievement.

 

Sweet Monkey Christ on a Pogostick. Let's review shall we?

Yes, yes we can all respond back and forth, and back and forth when we feel our "honor" or whatever is being insulted. We can all get snippy when others are giving reviews based on having, and I quote, "unreasonable aims and expectations". Yet, none of that matters does it? Everyone has differing aims and expectations. Everyone has different opinions based on what they wanted the book to be. Just REVIEW THE GOD DAMN BOOK and KEEP YOUR OPINIONS on other people's opinions OUT OF YOUR GOD DAMN REVIEWS.

I, and I'm sure many others, don't give a rat's ass if you (being an all encompasing "you") like/love/dislike/hate Bio, Theophany, myself, or anyone else. For fuck's sake can we stick to reviews of the book here? Discussion of nitpicking points and arguements have other threads. Take your opinion bashing there. Let this be a place where people can read differing opinions of the book to get a feel for where other readers are coming from. NOT a place to come to get reviews ON THE BLOODY REVIEWERS!

Again, feel free to negrep, insult, etc. etc. this post.

 

Again, I said keep DLP and Canon seperate; keep fanfiction away from this story. Here's even another one of my posts:

Again, you're just blowing smoke out of your ass and trying to pin this hate for DH on "fanfiction." We write fanfiction because the story is mediocre as it is. We wouldn't write fanfiction if we didn't find something wrong with the story or didn't find places to expand the universe.

That doesn't take away our right to find the story bad. I've written fanfiction long before Order of the Phoenix came out and I love Order of the Phoenix. I dislike Half-Blood Prince and I dislike Deathly Hallows. It has nothing to do with fanfiction and everything to do with an author who has limped her way home and thrown out a deus ex machina and it being my opinion and right to do so (post a bad review).

There's a reason this story is love-hate. I imagine there's places where it's being celebrated as the best story and there are places where it's being defamed as a piece of shit.

Presently, the count is 80 - 30, however in favor of putting it in the trash bin (if it were up for being put in the trash bin).

Also, don't insult your intelligence by qualifying Rowling's work as anything other than a literary work. Because it's a children's book, people can't be emotional? Last time I checked you joined a site steeped in perversion and ridicule.

Don't bust out the "Oh, it's not worth it" card when you're writing 10+ paragraph responses criticising me.

I wouldn't have even responded in this thread if I hadn't seen my name being dragged through the mud because the minority is saddened not everyone agrees with them and wants to blame that on my amazing power to persuade people to agree with me.