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Voldemort's ability to Fly

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Skeletaure, Jul 26, 2007.

  1. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Voldemort's ability to fly = what the Death Eaters and Order did in the DoM in the OotP movie?

    The imagery is very similar, and both let you fly, though of course it messes up movie-book integration (but then since when did they care about that?).
     
  2. Anlun

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    I don't think it was the same thing. In the book Voldemort is flying and he is corporeal. In the movie there pillars of black smoke (white light for the order). I suppose you can argue that there from the same basis but I think it was just coincidence.
     
  3. Spanks

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    Voldemort the Dragonball Z character!! The whole flying thing was a little too much for me. Why fly and waste magic when you can just use a broom or apparate?

    Anyway, I think it is a coincidence that the 5th movie has people flying and then the 7th book has Voldemort flying. Everyone exclaimed in surprise at Voldemort's ability to fly, so obviously it isn't something the average wizard can do.
     
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    I think the best you can compare the flying to movie wise was in the first movie when Voldemort glided towards Harry.
     
  5. nick012000

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    Maybe Voldemort, himself, isn't flying? Maybe he just enchanted an article of clothing to carry him, in much the same fashion as a broom?
     
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    I was impressed when I read about Voldemort flying, because it showed the extent of his power, but then JK went and ruined it by showing Snape doing the same thing.
     
  7. Skeletaure

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    And most annoyingly of all, with both of them dead, the knowledge of the spell that allowed them to do it was lost.
     
  8. Lecter

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    Not necessarily, Voldemort might have learned it from another source in the first place.
     
  9. 007_rock

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    well as Nick said maybe he enchanted a part of his clothing with flying charm used on broomsticks. Or even better he transfigured a couple of broomsticks into shoes maybe? It is a nice skill to have, beats anti-apparition and portkey wards.
     
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    With most new inventions deemed 'impossible,' it's only a matter of time after it's shown that it is possible that other people figure out how to reproduce the effect.

    No biggie.
     
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    I would imagine that the reason it is not used often is because it requires a constant flow of magical energy to keep you suspended. Any other theory?
     
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    Probably the same principle as flying in DBZ. At least that is what it struck me as... Guess we will find out when they make the movie?
     
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    In the Potter universe we have:

    • Instantaneous travel
    • Broomstick flight
    • Flying Carpets
    • Flying Leprechauns
    Not to mention Voldemort can split his soul to anchor himself to the mortal world. I think flight is pretty easy in comparison.
     
  14. Dark Minion

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    The "flying" in the movie was really bad. It might be intended as a visual effect for Apparition - as both Death Eaters and Order members moved that way. Of course the 'flying shadows' have nothing to do with Apparition.

    I just ignore it.


    Flying!Voldemort was a nice idea. It underlines how far he has pushed the boundaries of magic. Bat!Snape wasn't too bad either. If it is an ability not solely based on power but also on mental focus it is something Snape might be able to achieve, too.
     
  15. Skeletaure

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    I assumed it was a spell Voldemort discovered/created.

    Relatively easy once you know how; its just the finding out that's the hard part.
     
  16. QuaziJoe

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    When I first read that Voldemort could fly... I thought the CG effects people had lucked out big time with their gassy travel thing.

    If they hadn't had done that... I'm sure the fact that Voldemort could fly would have been cut from the last movie. Now I'm certain it will appear.

    I mean how major to the plot was it that Voldemort could fly. Apparition would have been and easy and more practical substitute.

    Unless vast stretches of land are covered in anti aparition Wards... he could have easily cut down on his travel time by apparating and then doing his flying thing if he was so inclined.

    I'm going to classify the flying thing as one of those spells that are rediscovered over time. The way lupin explained the levicorpus...

    Maybee voldemort modified it a little to make it his own, but it's probably still out there.

    On a side note... was it ever made clear whether Snape created the spells in the potions text or simply claimed them as his own.

    I can easily see him as a kid, scouring books from the library, finding an interesting spell, tearing out the pages, and then heading off to a dark corner to learn it.... secure in his knowledge than no one else would know what he was casting.

    That would explain how James knew it... by reading the spell before snape could, or finding a seperate source of his own.

    Snape as a genious Potions Master, A prodigy at the dark arts, Master Legilimenser and a man with Occlumency shields so strong he could outwit the most powerful dark lord in who knows how long, and a Spell crafter... far too versatile.

    Thats Crossing over into Uber Snape territory. Might as well give him a 12 inch Dick and Wash board abs while were at it... why not A dark Veela as well?
     
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    Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought. They used that same smoke effect for the graveyard scene in the GoF movie. I found it rather annoying since they were just supposed to apparate in.

    Just appearing out of nowhere looks a bit goofy on the big screen, I suppose, so they added some FX. Like the muggles wouldn't notice hundreds of black contrails in the sky every day from apparating witches and wizards. It would look like a thousand, low-flying, diesel-fueled jets buzzing through downtown. :rolleyes:

    The thing is, the Weasley twins appeared out of nowhere when they apparated in Grimmauld Place, which leads one to believe that the smoke-travel the deatheaters use (and the light-travel the Order members use) is something other than apparation. Bah, what a fucking mess.

    Pretty much the only thing you can do. :mad:
     
  18. Eristaz

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    Voldie was doing the Superman thing.
     
  19. Machiavelli Jr

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    JKR said way back when that you *CAN* make stuff other than brooms fly (presumably including, say, boots) it's just very illegal, hence not often done. Presumably it either took Voldemort a while to realise he could do this (when you're told in school stuff Doesn't Happen, you tend to believe most of it unless you actually take the time to engage brain), or he just didn't have time to do the necessary finagling until DH, or even he wasn't prepared to risk putting holes in the Statute of Secrecy until he was in control.
    Or, to the well-organised cynic, JKR thought it would be cool. Which is a damn good reason on its own.
     
  20. Skeletaure

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    It's clearly not the same charm as broom-flying though, as the effect is completely different.

    Flying on smoke and all that.
     
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