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19 years later

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Jenkins, Jul 26, 2007.

  1. redawgts

    redawgts First Year

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    Ginny would most likely go back to school for her final year. Hermione would insist on going back along with all the other muggleborns who were cheated out of their final year. She would of course drag Harry and Ron with her. That's one year. Harry and Ron join the Aurors and Harry probably wouldn't want to have children while he's still in training so add another three years, which I believe is how long the training lasts. That's four years. Now that he's out of training, he and Ginny can have a baby. Assuming for a few months of "practice", little James is born a year later. That's five years. Time flies doesn't it. As for the last two years, well Taure's assumption that James is only in his second year is just that, an assumption. He could easily be in his third or fourth year.
     
  2. Skeletaure

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    You've made a couple of assumptions too though. Like, for example:

     
  3. redawgts

    redawgts First Year

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    Of course I've made assumptions of my own. Everything we're talking about are assumptions. The only thing we know for certain is that James was born somewhere between 2 and 7 years after the final battle.
     
  4. Lhefriel_Medies

    Lhefriel_Medies Fifth Year

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    I actually kind of liked the epilogue... It has a kind of wistful tone to it, putting an emphasis on how Harry still seeks to be considered normal, when everything is said and done. It shows how he just wants to establish that peace he's been seeking since childhood, and how he's continuing to take it upon himself to fix things. It has a sense of both proactivity and stagnation to it; I really like how it contrasts how he needs to wait for his children, and how he would like to continue to make a huge difference while no longer being able to due to his new responsibilities. That said...

    His marrying Ginny kind of threw it off for me. I don't hate Ginny like a lot of people here, per se, but... I really don't see the connection between Ginny and Harry. She's a fangirl, he's some a sort of regular guy with way too much responsibility on his shoulders- more than he needs and more than he deserves. She likes him for his outward appearance of valor and whatever the hell is associated with saving the world multiple times, and he likes her because she's open and understanding, willing to go with the flow but stop when it's needed-sort of avatar of the normalcy he craves. 2+2=fish?

    And it was too rushed. A lot of the points that she felt she needed to make, such as "not all Slytherins are inherently bad" felt rushed, like it was all crammed into a space far too small for it. She also neglected a lot of the exposition I expect from a good epilogue, but it wasn't a bad passage. She definitely hit on that "poetic" feel she was hoping to achieve. It was really gracefully written.
     
  5. fatal

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    Is it not strange that none of Harry's children had the name Sirius?
     
  6. Skeletaure

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    To be fair, Harry hardly knew the man.
     
  7. Warlocke

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    Oh, didn't you know? Harry doesn't name a kid after you unless you're an immediate relative or you treated him like the dog shit trapped in the tread of your shoes.

    Dumbledore lied to Harry and repeatedly forced him to stay with hateful, abusive relatives.

    Snape was an infected, dripping, syphilitic prick towards Harry for no reason other than he had a hard on for Lily but didn't get her because he's pond scum. He also treated Harry and his friends like garbage in class and abused him instead of giving him occlumency lessons; an action which lead directly to Sirius' death.

    Therefore, they get kids named after them. Incidentally, Harry's next boy will be named Vernon Voldemort Potter.

    No, I'm afraid Sirius isn't getting a kid named after him until Ginny's popped out squealing brat number twelve. :p
     
  8. Solomon

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    It would be rather fitting, wouldn't it? Considering that for most of his time post-Azkaban, Sirius lived in Number twelve, Grimmauld Place?
     
  9. Jenkins

    Jenkins Forum Bike DLP Supporter

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    And he spent 12 years in Azkaban didn't he? Creeepy.
     
  10. Mordac

    Mordac Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    She wanted to make that point? Then why, of all Slytherins in the school, not one stayed for the final battle? That was a huge cop-out.
     
  11. Skeletaure

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    Slughorn stayed, and he duelled Voldemort himself.
     
  12. Mordac

    Mordac Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Yea, I know, I wondered if I should have mentioned in my post that I meant the students who were attending the school, but I opted for brevity. Turns out I shouldn't have. Thumbs up for Slughorn though.
     
  13. Lhefriel_Medies

    Lhefriel_Medies Fifth Year

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    I dunno. It may have something to do with the fact that Snape changed sides for Harry's mother, and then proceeded to risk everything and give everything in her name and for her sake after she died. I kind of recall something about Snape wanting to protect Harry despite Dumbledore's plans for his inevitable death, and his shielding of Harry despite all of the bad blood between him and James. Possibly the fact that he did everything he could to skew the odd's in the Order's favor, and set in motion most of the plans that ensured Harry's survival and eventual success. Oh. And being able to successfully lie to Voldemort's face for the purpose of the Light throughout the decades, despite many characters in the book saying that Voldie's Legimency was unmatched. Slughorn also sacrificed the web he spent his life weaving in the last battle, by dueling Voldemort himself.

    But, really, I still don't quite see it. I guess your right- I'm not quite sure how relevant these things are, compared to how all of the 18 year olds and under didn't want to risk their futures. You know, I'm sure that most sane people that young wouldn't want to sacrifice it all. No shit, Sherlock- there's not a whole lot a handful of minors (by regular standards) are going to be able to do in the face of a legion of trained, hardened Dark Wizards. Slytherins probably just happen to be the group with enough common sense to realize that they're in all likelihood not going to much more than cannon fodder.
     
  14. nuck

    nuck First Year

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    Teddy Lupin is at the hogwarts express when hes 19 to...
     
  15. BloodLust

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    Teddy Lupin comes to 'see off' Victoire Weasley
    and JKR said there is nothing specific about the nineteen years, she just wanted to give the trio time to relax, and didn't want to be seen as advocating teenage pregnancy.
     
  16. Flamata

    Flamata First Year

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    My question is...as much as I dislike Ginny, why did Harry get to name all the kids? I would have kicked up a fuss at the proposed 'Albus Severus'. It's not like the Weasleys didn't lose family members in the battle too. One of the children could have been named Fred.
     
  17. Lorelei of the Sea

    Lorelei of the Sea Unspeakable

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    George has a son named Fred... confirmed by JK in the LiveChat interview.

     
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  18. Padfoot85

    Padfoot85 Sixth Year

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    Originally Posted by JKR
    Camille: How is george getting along without his twin
    J.K. Rowling: Well, I don't think that George would ever get over losing Fred, which makes me feel so sad. However, he names his first child and son Fred, and he goes on to have a very successful career, helped by good old Ron.




    Of course. We should be so stupid as to forget that "good ol Ron" is the only reason why anyone is on their feet these days. After all, it's not like the twins had a prosperous business that competed with Zonko's. Or that they made just as much if not more than Arthur did doing said business. George wouldn't continue in his brothers memory and keep going with the shop, heavens no. He has to have good ol Ronniekins help him out with his life.

    So much of this book cheesed me off simple because JKR had to explain all of this in a fucking interview. She couldn't find it in her heart to actually say some of this stuff in the book.
     
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