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Voldemort's transformation: When & How?!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Vengashii, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. Vengashii

    Vengashii Banned

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    As it implies, the thought popped into my head while about to fall asleep. Sometime between Book 1 and the beginning of Book 4, Lord Voldemort, a bodiless spirit, somehow manages to transform into an aborted fetus. How the bloody fuck does he do this and when?!
     
  2. Ragon

    Ragon Dark Lord

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    There is 3 years of time. He most likely (that P word I cant remember at the moment) the body.

    He did it to Harry in OotP. I cant remember the word for the life of me.
     
  3. Vengashii

    Vengashii Banned

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    He possessed an aborted fetus?
     
  4. Ragon

    Ragon Dark Lord

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    THATS THE WORD

    He could have. He is the Greatest Dark Lord in centuries.
     
  5. Vengashii

    Vengashii Banned

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    Where did he get an aborted fetus from?
     
  6. Anlun

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    No I don't think it was possession. In GoF He expressly says he needs to "milk" Nagini's venom (at least I hope it was the venom) and drink it, implying two things:
    The transformation is unstable and requires constant potions to maintain.
    It is a transformation requiring some sort of ritual or act.

    I believe the transformation occurs after Pettigrew's escape in PoA because I believe it is later mentioned that he searched for Voldemort in Albania by asking the rats, and at the time it was said Voldemort was a bodiless spirit.
     
  7. Vengashii

    Vengashii Banned

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    probable, but the aborted fetus possession idea seems like the kinda thing Voldemort would do anyways.. :p
     
  8. Muttering Condolences

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    After escaping in PoA, Wormtail, under LV's supervision, concocted a potion/ritual consisting of a couple of Voldemort-invented spells, unicorn blood, and Nagini's venom, which allowed LV's spirit to be converted into a cursed 'aborted fetus' type body.


    EDIT: I'm pretty sure that Voldemort tells Harry this either right before or right after the Death Eaters arrive after Voldemort's resurrection in GoF.
     
  9. 007_rock

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    He only said he needed to milk Nagini, never said it was venom. Though in real life snakes do not have milk, JKR's snakes have eyelids, speech etc so why not a bit of milk. So maybe he possessed Nagini's child (foetus) which was conceived after he turned her into a Horcrux. That made the snakeling half-human-half-snake that is like a shrivelled child. And it feeds on Nagini's (breast?) milk like any other child. Just a theory though.


    Haven't seen anywhere Voldmort explaining how he became like that, just that he had to suffer a lot coz of Harry.
     
  10. Aakunen

    Aakunen Second Year

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    He says that, when he explained to Death Eaters what happened to him after 1st October 1981; he used a few of his own spells, some kind of help from Nagini - it never was explained what exactly it's help involved, unicorn blood, and Nagini's venom.

    I think, that it's safe to assume that he used a variation of the ritual that Voldemort and Wormtail did in the GoF.

    If I remember correctly 'to milk a snake' means exactly extracting it's venom, but thinking if JKR gave Nagini breasts is rather interesting. :)
     
  11. The-Hyphenated-One

    The-Hyphenated-One Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    I think we have found a question to ask J.K. if DLP ever gets to interview her. Anyone else agree?
     
  12. 007_rock

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    Yeah I agree. It is a damn good question.

    JKR has a lot to answer for if we ever get hold of her. But if she browses this forum atleast once before hand, I doubt she will agree to answer even a single question from us DLPers. We will rile her up pretty nicely.
     
  13. Vengashii

    Vengashii Banned

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    and thus a new pairing is born...

    and a new hentai.
     
  14. Erotic Adventures of S

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    I am pretty sure he said Wormtail made the body for him with his instructions once Wormtail found him by looking as a rat.
     
  15. The Fine Balance

    The Fine Balance Headmaster

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    I've read about Nagini with just about every bloke under the sun.

    There was that particularly "memorable" one of Voldie/Snape/Nagini.
     
  16. Palver

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    Ah..Here it is:

     
  17. Vengashii

    Vengashii Banned

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    But its an aborted fetus.

    It would be a field day with the religious nuts if they ever realize it.
     
  18. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Hmm...

    The whole Nagini thing might be linked with horcruxes.

    I mean, if Nagini is a horcrux, then perhaps Voldemort is strengthening himself somehow through the soul fragment in Nagini?
     
  19. deathinapinkboa

    deathinapinkboa Minister of Magic

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Dumbledore say something in HBP about Voldemort using the death of Frank Bryce to make Nagini into a Horcrux?
     
  20. Skeletaure

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    JKR said in a recent interview that it was Bertha Jorkins' death that made Nagini a horcrux.

    It's up in the air as to if this death is too close to the events of Harry's dream for Voldemort to gain his foetus-body in that time...I guess not, I don't know.

    Either way, Nagini being a horcrux couldn't have hurt with the strengthening process.
     
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