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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Skeletaure, Dec 11, 2007.

  1. Anlun

    Anlun Denarii Host

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    There's still an assload of questions she hasn't answered that she should. These are throw offs, but the true questions of the series she doesn't.

    How old is Ollivander?
    What are James and Lily's professions?
    I personally would like to know if Ted Tonks has any werewolf attributes. We get he's not a werewolf but Bill eats raw meat, I would think the kid would have some wolf tendencies.
    And all the other ones that have been stated before. Instead of adding on crap and pointless nonsense to an already lame ending she should explain the things she failed to do throughout seven books.
     
  2. Erotic Adventures of S

    Erotic Adventures of S Denarii Host

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    I dont see how the Pervel brother who made the wand could be better than Olivander who comes from a long line of wand makers.

    Olivander seemed to have lore on the suject no one or very few others did.
     
  3. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    The three brothers appear to be of unique genius. None of the 3 Hallows have ever been replicated, so we can draw the conclusion that the brothers were pretty smart - perhaps even more so than Dumbledore.
     
  4. Erotic Adventures of S

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    The Hallows do show just how much further wizarding kind can go though.

    But I do find it hard to believe all 3 brothers just so happen to be genius'. Then they happen to go far byond anyone else in their choosen fields.

    The stone is something we have never seen anything like before and is thus the most impressive.

    The wand is a bit of experimenting and luck.

    The cloak... is just a really well made cloak.
     
  5. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    When you think about it, the stone opens up massive plot possibilities. Death no longer means anything. Any person who has ever lived can be used...hang on, I got to go to the challenges section...
     
  6. Mordac

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    No such thing. Even with foreign words, I think the case for the Potterverse being completely deterministic, regardless what JKR says, has been made. Those implausible events happened because that was the only way they could happen. Why, it's up for the reader to fill in--hint, plotbunny.
     
  7. Skeletaure

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    Could you, for perhaps just one moment, not link every part of your life in with philosophy? We get it, you like philosophy and you're overwhelmed by your newfound cleverness as a first-year undergraduate (I'm guessing this from your age). But this is Harry Potter, not a philosophy dissertation, and should be treated as such.

    Randomness occurs. It's a scientific fact of the universe. Viewing Harry Potter as a world as opposed to a literary work, this means that randomness will occur in the world in which Harry Potter inhabits. If this randomness benefits you, it's luck.
     
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    I haven't taken a philosophy class since 11th grade, though yes, I'm a first year undergrad. And you brought up chance, maybe I could have used less philosophical lingo, but I would have said the same thing.
    Can you elaborate on what do you mean by randomness? I think I know what you're getting at, but I'd like to know more before I put my foot in my mouth.
     
  9. Lucullus

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    Taure, I might be mistaken, but I'm sure the Peverells didn't create the Hallows.

    If we are to go by the legend, they sort of stumbled upon them.

    There was never any evidence the brothers were extraordinary enough to create such mystical objects. Sure, Antioch was described as a powerful wizard who sort of thrives on fighting IIRC, who then got the wand and became unbeatable, but apart from this and Ignotus' alleged wisdom, I see nothing to suggest that they are legendary wizards on the level of the Founders, Merlin etc, even if they are linked to the Slytherin family.
     
  10. Alec

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    What do you mean linked to the Slytherin family?Are they related?Cuz if so doesn't that mean Harry is related to Slytherin also?I could of sworn it said in the books or JKR said that Harry was related to the brothers..or was that dumbledore?
     
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    I interpretted that too. The Peverells seem to more stumble upon them, and happen to be the first ones to do so. Then with the powers bestowed upon them by the deathly hollows, they 'become' great. Unless they automatically get HP-verse brownie points for having slytherin blood in them, since it has seemed to be that way (i.e. most slytherin descendants seem to be powerful, with second-to-last generation of gaunts seeming to be an exception). Just like all those heir of so and so stories in fanfiction...
     
  12. Lucullus

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    The Peverells are indeed linked to the Slytherin family. Gaunt Sr. is a descendent of the Peverells, and possesses the Ring which the Resurrection Stone is laid on. His grandson, Tom Riddle Jr. or better known as Voldemort, is the Heir of Slytherin, hence it makes sense that the Peverells are descendents of the Slytherins.

    Yes, this does also mean that Harry, who is also descended from the Peverells, is distantly related to Voldemort, and by extension, the Slytherins.

    I'm guessing that with Voldermort's death, Harry should be the current Heir of Slytherin.
     
  13. Alec

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    That's so cool haha..Distant cousins killing each other, how wonderful.

    I wish Voldemort had won *sigh*
     
  14. Skeletaure

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    The legend says that they stumbled across them, yes, but Dumbledore tells Harry that he suspects that this is part of the story that has grew out of the legendary nature of the hallows, and that they were in fact created by the brothers. Since JKR has said that Dumbledore and Hermione are her voices for explaining things about the HP universe, I think this is quite a reliable conclusion.

    Hmm...they're related, but I'd say that they're so distantly related that it counts for very little. I'd say that there is no heir of Slytherin remaining now. Afterall, he no longer has parseltongue, nor did any of the other Potters, and that's supposed to be the defining mark of the heir.

    Except that it's Slytherin with Peverell blood, not the other way around. The Peverells came first.
     
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  15. The Doctor

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    I can't agree with you more. Rowling's become a fucking attention-seeking whore. I couldn't give a shit what she says anymore: I stopped after HBP came out, proving she's a fucking H/G fangirl, and therefore worthy of being burnt at the stake.
     
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    A testament to how stupid parts of the fandom are. I thought this was obvious as shit when I read it, I never even considered it might confuse some dudes.
     
  17. Inexistence

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    It's official. Some people can be more muggle than others.
     
  18. Skeletaure

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    It's official. JKR knows nothing about Genetics.
     
  19. Darkmakr

    Darkmakr Seventh Year

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    But it's a MAGICAL gene, it defies science!


    Seriously. there are far too many plot holes that can't be solved by releasing information after the fact in the form of answers to fan questions; they simply aren't detailed enough. I would be okay with her publishing a book of short stories about this that and the other thing. I read a while back that she as a whole history of dementors among other things that sound slightly interesting. I said the same thing about the "OMG dumbledore is GAY", by itself it's completely out there and doesn't make any sense. Give it context and backstory, sure, I could accept it, not that i'd like it, but it would make much more sense.
     
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