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Magical Children: Why or Why Not?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Banner, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. Drunken Jedi

    Drunken Jedi Squib

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    Then why did no one protest when Mrs Figg said that Squibs are able to see Dementors at the trial in OotP? Fudge didn't know, but I find it hard to believe that no one within the Wizengamot would protest to Mrs Figg's claim.
     
  2. Skeletaure

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    Mrs. Figg lied, JKR said so on her website.
     
  3. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    What does she know? *smile* Heck, she even had DD being "bent"....
     
  4. Drunken Jedi

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    So not a single person within the whole wizengamot actually knows that Squibs can't see Dementors? I find that very improbable.
    But well, compared to some other inconsistencies, that one is pretty minor.
     
  5. Skeletaure

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    It's not so unlikely considering most wizards want nothing to do with squibs and that they are effectively excluded from wizarding society.
     
  6. Drajjen

    Drajjen First Year

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    I was under the impression that Fudge knew that Squibs could "not" see dementors. I also understood that scene to mean that Madam Bones at the very least realized through Mrs. Figg's description that there was indeed a dementor present. (Mrs Figgs description being where she explained that she felt like she would never be happy again, or some such)

    I of course can't help but to get a small smile on my face for the theory that it's basically rape that creates muggleborns. Not that I condone or even like rape, but can you imagine a "good" writer making that a premise of his/her story?

    Lets see, Harry finds out that not only did Author or Author's father rape his grandmother......but Ginny who is creating this monster in his chest is really his half sister......

    Haha, I can't help it, that's just some funny shit. Someone please make a miniture fic for the Ginny Kill off Thread with this concept.
     
  7. Drunken Jedi

    Drunken Jedi Squib

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    It's certainly true that most people wouldn't be well informed about squibs, but as I said before, I think it's very unlikely that the entire wizengamot is ignorant on that matter. Probably there are even a few among them who have a close relative who is a squib.
     
  8. Banner

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    I was *sure* I remembered reading that squibs could see magical creatures - Filch certainly can see ghosts and Peeves.
     
  9. Skeletaure

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    I think Muggles can see magical creatures too - Fantastic Beasts mentions laws about placing disillusionment charms on Thestrals and other magical creatures to stop Muggles seeing them. It's just Dementors which are the exception.
     
  10. Banner

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    Soo ... we have two theories - muggleborns are from squib lines, or the ability to use magic can be the result of random fetal exposure to magic influence.
     
  11. Skeletaure

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    I think the problem with the idea that Muggleborns come from Squib lines is that Squibs are so much rarer than Muggleborns - there should be far fewer Muggleborns than there are, and JKR quotes roughly 25% of wizards are Muggleborn.
     
  12. deathinapinkboa

    deathinapinkboa Minister of Magic

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    No, we have three theories. You forgot Magic!Rape.

    Edit: Even if one of these theories can be proved correct, that doesn't necessarily prove others are wrong. Lets say that about 5% of wizards are the product of squibs' grandkids fucking, another 10% are children of rape, and the last 10% come from mommy and daddy being in an area of high magical activity.
     
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  13. Skeletaure

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    Magic!rape is both amusing and perfectly logical, but if we take authorial intent into account I doubt it's what JKR was going for.
     
  14. deathinapinkboa

    deathinapinkboa Minister of Magic

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    Okay, but then I demand that everyone except that Albus Dumbledore enjoys it up the poopshoot, even though it isn't mentioned in any of the seven books (or the two charity companion guides).

    Authorial intent is nice and all, but you never really know with ol' JK. I'm not completely sure that people won't discover that in her notes twenty years from now.
     
  15. Banner

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    Yeah, that "AD is gay" thing seemed to come from WAAAY out in left field. Really, who ASKED that question about a hundred-and sixty-year-old man? Old-Guy-Sex.
    *shudder*
    This is right up with Dobby's sex life on Things That Don't Need To Be Known.
     
  16. deathinapinkboa

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    You see, if we forget about stupid Authorial intent, we can make Albus--a ginger in his youth--Harry's Magic!Rape Grandaddy.
     
  17. Banner

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    Snape might be giving him, y'know, potions to ...er ... keep the spring in his step. In fact, if Snape is At All aware of the muggle world, our Potions master might be doing a land office business. He could take little blue pills, mix them in some nasty-tasting neutral base, and sell them to all his buddies in the old DE club.

    The thought that Malfoy might be paying a fortune for Viagra gives me a vicious thrill.

    And THAT would explain all that kindly-grandfather-with-an-iron-will attitude he had going towards Harry.
     
  18. Wildfeather

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    At the rate we're going, JKR will run out of notes to tell us about...
     
  19. Methene

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    Perhaps when her children stumble across her Harry Potter notes, they will find something completely different. They will find a properly done Harry, who wouldn't touch Ginny with a stolen appendage, one in which Dumbledore was the greatest wizard of his age and he enjoyed his purple robes out of eccentricity, friends with Gellert, but just friends etc.

    And a diary entry next to all these notes:

    Dear diary,

    I always wanted Harry to be properly done and Dumbledore to be a complex character. But popular opinion made me change my mind. Who would want to read a Dark!Harry book. No, it is better as I have done it. All the slash stories on FFN have pointed out that I need a gay character. And all the rabid Ginny fans have taught me that she must be paired with Harry. I have taken a leaf out of their book and made her insanely popular and beautiful and smart and uber.

    Regretfully,

    Jo

    I think the problem was that post GoF, JKR decided to check out on some fanfiction and then oriented her story to fit the masses.
     
  20. deathinapinkboa

    deathinapinkboa Minister of Magic

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    You can't really be certain how much it affected OotP, but HBP really did read like a something out of DLP's Trash Bin.
     
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