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Su Li

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Vengashii, Jan 4, 2008.

  1. Vengashii

    Vengashii Banned

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    I'm getting a bit lost here. Is Su Li a canon character or is she just one of LT2000's creations that for some reason reached massive fanon popularity?
     
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    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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  3. Vengashii

    Vengashii Banned

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    Is she ever mentioned in the books?
     
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    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Dunno, I'd seen the special some time before and assumed she was just used as a blank slate type of character, the way Blaise used to be.
     
  5. Antivash

    Antivash Until we meet again... DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    No, Su Li is only mentioned in Rowling's notes, and never in the book. She is just a popular fanon character. *shrugs* I've got a short story coming up with her in it, so whatever. One character not ruined by Rowling.

    Edit: From Hp-Lexicon

     
  6. Lucullus

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    Ergh, Daphne Greengrass sounds miles better than Queenie Greengrass.

    Thank God JKR is not totally retarded after all and changed the original name.
     
  7. maidros

    maidros Fourth Year

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    I seem to recollect some speculation that she was the prototype Cho Chang, before JKR changed her mind. I cannot remember where I read it - I will post the link if I find that discussion.
     
  8. Solomon

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    This brings a new question to mind:

    Of the two below, which name is worse?

    A) Queenie Greengrass
    B) Astoria Greengrass
     
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    The first sounds plain terrible, while the other sounds like one made up by your run-of-the-mill fangirl.

    I honestly cannot decide which is worse. Both are puke-worthy names.
     
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    Where did the *Astoria* idea come from? Is that one of JKR's weirder name mistakes?
     
  11. Solomon

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    According to the Lexicon, Astoria Greengrass is the name of Draco Malfoy's wife.
     
  12. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    Su Li is a vicious azn with small mammaries and a huge twat. That must be slapped.
     
  13. Lecter

    Lecter Seventh Year

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    I wonder what the symbols in the middle column mean.
     
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    Blood status?
     
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    Isn't Astoria a suburb in the original Grand Theft Auto?
     
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    Memory King Order Member DLP Supporter

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    That's pretty likely, IMHO. A link to that discussion would be appreciated, I'm bored out of my bloody skull at the moment. I prefer Cho personally, but that might just be the little H/C shipper in me speaking.

    Who the hell cares about Draco Malfoy's wife? Queenie is the worst potential name in the HP verse I've ever heard, no question about it. Not counting Albus Severus, of course.
     
  17. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    Sounds familiar.

    Anyway, that list is the only place several girls that have been used in fanfiction have been mentioned, like Su Li and Mandy Brocklehurst, or whatever the fuck her name is.

    Tracey Davis is another.

    Megan Jones.

    ...Yeah.
     
  18. Jeram

    Jeram Elder of Zion ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I don't believe JKR has ever said anything about Su Li, however an essay I read years ago on Lexicon says this:

    http://hp-lexicon.org/essays/essay-secrets-of-the-classlist.html#ravenclawminors:
    This comprehensive list includes someone else's work on that screenshot: http://www.hp-lexicon.org/library/ref/HarrysYear.txt

    The "classlist" allows includes never-book-mentioned Morag McDougal, Lisa Turpin, Kevin Entwhistle from Ravenclaw, Wayne Hopkins from Hufflepuff, Somebody Moon, blah blah blah, etc.

    Also please take a look at this ridiculous family tree she drew:
    http://www.hp-lexicon.org/images/jkr/weasleyfamilytree-website.jpg

    According to wikipedia, that name could mean anything. So who knows what she "knew all along" about the "entire plot line, obviously".

    Or what she'd think of what became of her unused scribbled notes? All fodder for her upcoming "Scottish book" (the encyclopedia), which will contain entirely old material, nothing made up recently, I assure you.

    -J
     
  19. maidros

    maidros Fourth Year

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    Mandy Brocklehurst and Lisa Turpin are both mentioned in the initial sorting ceremony (PS) as getting sorted into Ravenclaw. Morag MacDougal and Moon are mentioned in the Sorting ceremony, but their houses are not listed anywhere,. AFAIK.

    Kevin Entwhistle, Megan Jones, Wayne Hopkins, Su Li, and Tracy Davis are all purely from the notes that she has.

    Regards,
    Maidros
     
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    Left column is gender, right is house, middle is, as Mordac stated, blood status.

    Astoria? It's also a location in New York, among other places, it's mentioned in the title of an album by The Ataris, but most importantly, it's where the Goonies live. :)

    Plum, huh? This would seem to support Amerision's post. Hehe...

    My image of Su Li has always pretty closely matched LT2000's from Dakaath; Prince of Darkness.

    I had a notion once to pair her up with Harry and Morag, back in the day, just to write something that used a few of the lesser known Ravenclaws. Neither character exists in the books (beyond the mention of Morag's name during the sorting) but I've always had very specific images of them in my head. Funny that.
     
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