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Pros and Cons of OOTP Movie

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Spanks, Jul 11, 2007.

  1. Nova

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    i watched the movie a couple of days ago and thought that it was pretty good and worth watching.

    Pros:

    1- Bellatrix was very well cast as where Luna and Umbridge.
    2-I liked the duel between Voldemort and Dumbledore it showed that they where on a completely different level to normal wizards.
    3-The thestrals where done very well
    4-The interaction between Harry and Tonks
    Cons:

    1-I hated Grawp he looked way to computer generated.
    2-Emma watson tries to hard when acting, sometimes she does the character of Hermione really well and other times i cringe.
    3-the whole dodging the boats thing between Harry and Tonks, surely thats got to be breaking the state of secrecy?
    4-Only showed Harry in one really angry moment when in the books he is angry almost the whole year.
     
  2. Lecter

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    I just watched it on a pirate DVD. My first impression: What. The. Fuck.
    Dan looks and acts like a zombie.
    Petunia looks like a streetwalker.
    The Order flying on broomsticks in full view of Muggles. What happened to the secrecy? And what's the point of flying so low, anyway?
    Voldemort in a suit. I thought it might make more sense in the context of the whole movie, but it didn't. Just WTF.
    Umbridge isn't nasty-looking enough.
    Every defensive spell seems to have the same effect: lifting the victim off their feet and hurling them a few meters back. And what was that levitating thing they did to Nigell (whoever the fuck that is)? What does Wingardium Leviosa have to do with defense against the dark arts?
    The whole Harry fearing that he is becoming like Voldemort thing. In the book, Harry was afraid he might be possessed by Voldemort, but he had no reason to believe, by that time, that he may turn into a monster on his own. Somebody watches too much Star Wars.
    Harry sees Snape's worst memory as a result of self-defense, not poking his nose into the Pensieve, which makes Snape's refusal to give him any more lessons appear completely unfair. Although the whole thing doesn't get any development, anyway.
    ...and neither does the sacking of Trelawney. Why include it if it is completely irrelevant to the story (or what little of it there is)?
    Very little was shown of the Department of Mysteries (only the Hall of Prophecies and the Death Chamber), and it looked rather unimpressive. One would have thought that at this point the creators of the movie would let their imagination run wild...yeah, right. The DoM is possibly my favorite part of the whole series, and you bitches had to fucking ruin it.
    Voldemort tempting Harry to kill Bellatrix. Someone watches way too much Star Wars.
    Dumbledore's battle with Voldy. Knowing that filmmakers tend to embellish that sort of thing, I expected something mind-blowing...and what do I see? I see an average battle from Neverwinter Nights, probably the only source of inspiration for whoever made this part of the movie. And Dumbledore levitating Voldemort in that ball of water was kind of comical.
    Harry saying he feels sorry for Voldy because he'll never know love and friendship (AND YOU'LL DIE A VIRGIN!) God, how corny. Did I mention that someone watches way too much Star Wars?

    I'm starting to want Columbus back.
     
  3. Skeletaure

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    Thinking back, Columbus was pretty good. He stuck to the book like glue, made some good casting decisions, and his world was suitably magical. Oh, and his film was the one that came up with the cool Hogwarts theme tune.

    The only problem was what he was given to work with: 3 inexperienced and really rather crap lead actors, and the least exciting plot of all 7 books.
     
  4. Midknight

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    Watched it today with my kids.

    DoM scene was fucked. Dumbles vs Voldemort was horrible, but still had cool moments. Priori happened an that ruined it, but still.

    Dan's acting goes down while the others goes up, but he can't outbeat Gambon (sp?)s Dumbledore, which is just pure painful to watch.

    Wtf with Flitwick?

    Twin's pranking was awesome, but they cut out all Quidditch, and alot of other smaller stuff that helps the main story line. Way too many cuts.

    However, its assloads better then GoF, especially the DE's. And yeah, someone watched too much Star Wars. Voldy in a suit was funny, but way out of place.
     
  5. The Doctor

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    I actually sat through OOtP at the movies, and the whole time I was there, all I was thinking was "thank God I got M&Ms out of this."

    I wanted to punch Emma Watson in the head - I must thank her for raping one of my favourite characters.

    Seriously, that scene where she goes "It's fun breaking the rules, isn't it?" and Ron comes back with some lame quip to give him some lines, I wanted to snap someone's neck. Did anyone making this movie even read the book?

    Though, to be truthful, it wasn't her who did it first:
    Rest in peace, good bookworm.

    Umbridge - uh, no. Not evil or ugly enough.

    Rupert Grint should have been fired the moment he set foot on the set.

    Inconsistencies, no faithfulness to the book (Quidditch? What Quidditch?), including Grawp for no reason whatsoever, giving one of the few good actors (Rickman) even less screen-time, and Gambon, who I want to die a horrible death. Preferably at the same time as Grint.

    On that note, I think Radcliffe did good. He wasn't exactly given much to act with(I'm so ANGRY!!!!!!!).

    Edit: Evanna Lynch as Luna was awesome though. Hell, there should be some spinoff focusing entirely on her.

    Edit2: Tonks was totally fucked up.
     
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    You forgot to mention how awesome and wonderful Luna Lovegood was in all your ranting. For shame.
     
  7. Iztiak

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    Pros- Luna
    Cons- Everything else.

    Seriously though, I thought it was abysmally done. They cut so much it was sickening.

    For one, the floating black death phantoms fighting the floating white Order phantoms was idiotic.

    Spot on, the ministry scene was one of my favorite moments in the entire series, and the director ruined it.

    Radcliff's acting.... Yeah, we know about that...

    There are far too many things I disliked about the movie to list.
     
  8. The Doctor

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    :wall:

    Too bad she'll have no role in the sixth or seventh movies.

    Luna's time has already passed. It's over to Ginslut.:mad:
     
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    Sometimes (i.e. the majority of the time) I utterly despise JKR with all the mary-sue hating passion in my soul. Cunt.
     
  10. Lecter

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    I forgot to mention it in my review, but Tonks gave me a hardon. She's one of the few good things about the movie.
    And yeah, Luna was great and kind of turned me on, as well.
     
  11. Midknight

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    The thing that bugs me is the scene where Hermione tells Ron that not everybody has the emotional range of a teaspoon...cue several seconds of sitting around silenty, followed by utterly inappropriate laughter from all three of the the Trio.

    WTF!? Why are they all laughing!?
     
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    Pros:

    - It moves really quickly, but nicely.

    - A lot of great casting, especially Umbridge.

    - Sirius actually fits his role this time around, which was nice.

    - The way DE's and the Order apparate is bizarre but kind of cool.

    Cons:

    - No segways between scenes at all... what the hell?

    - Would make absolutely no sense if I hadn't already read the book.

    - Gotta say, didn't think Tonks was cast all that well.

    - Don't like the shakey-camera bullshit when Harry and Dudley are running, it seemed really out of place and more like the director was playing just for playing sake.

    - Not sure why they didn't do Dementors the same as in PoA simply for consistency.
     
  14. The Doctor

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    HERMIONE: Oh, and by the way Ron, you're a insensitive prick who only thinks about tits and Quidditch.

    HARRY AND RON: Nice one, Hermione!

    ALL LAUGH

    HERMIONE: (In a small voice) I was serious.

    ALL LAUGH

    HERMIONE: (Whispering) Fuck you, Rowling.
     
  15. Lucullus

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    Pros:

    You mean there were pros about this movie?

    Cons:

    Basically everything about the movie. For those who said they enjoyed the 'duel' scene, I'd like to ask if you were watching the same movie as me. It was more a fireworks display than a duel, and making apparation look like travelling as an apparition, instead of the instantaneous 'teleportation' it is supposed to be just to make it look more visually appealing is simply not the way to go for me.

    So yeah, the acting's fucked up, the special effect's shit for most part and the movie was too rushed, with important parts left out or altered (and non-important ones put in to appeal to squeeing fangirls). If you've never read the books, forget about trying to comprehend what the plot is about, even if you've watched the past 4 movies.

    The result? An absolute phailure of a movie. 0 stars.
     
  16. Andro

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    I didn't get the Stupefy thing.

    I thought it was a beam of red light, but it wasn't. More like an invisible slegehammer.

    Heh, I guess the producers had a lot of artistic license?
     
  17. madeyemoody

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    Just watched it, major suckage, bring back Columbus.

    Too many cons to list, thought the only pro would have to be luna and I'm sensing the movies will run with harry/luna. and Rowling will watch from her money bath wondering "Why didn't I think of that?"

    madeyemoody
     
  18. Warlocke

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    Along with all of the other pointless changes made to the material for the movies, what the fuck is up with apparation? It's supposed to make a popping noise. *POP* Is it that hard to figure out?

    Apparently Stupefy is a God Damned BANISHING CHARM NOW!!! FUCK! What in the hell are they thinking? No, really, I want to know!

    No animated statues at the DOM, though considering the job they continue to do on the centaurs, perhaps it's better they didn't even try.

    Er, is Grimmauld Place, like, an apartment, or what? I think I'm missing something here.

    No Painting of Sirius' mother.

    Really, the disappointments... well, there were some big things but, overall, it was the little things that just kept on piling up and piling up that made the movie an all around let down.

    Well you're in luck because she's been in some other movies and... Er, wait, what?

    Actually, while she didn't quite match my mental image of Tonks, Natalia seemed to have a personality that matched the character really well (which would have more than made up for the image thing). In fact, I'd venture a guess that this is why she got the part.
    Unfortunately we only get a chance to see this personality on the second disc of the SE DVD, where she gives a tour of the set, since she was in the movie for all of ten seconds. :mad:

    I could totally see that Tonks being cool and fun-loving and befriending Harry during the summer, playing funny songs on her guitar and trying to cheer him up; anything would have been better than the travesty she became in the books, moping around over a prematurely gray, wussy, scarred-up Remus Lupin (no, looks aren't everything, but it's not like he's got a killer personality to compensate now, is it?).

    I mean, come on, he's the marauder that wasn't trusted enough, which is sad enough on its own, but then the wimp tried to run out on his wife and infant son. Maybe he wised up for half a second and realized he was so lucky to score Tonks in the first place that it must simply be a hallucination and, therefore, he had no wife and son. Anyway...

    On the plus side, people with no imagination now have a passably dishy image of Amelia Bones for all those fics where Harry ends up shagging the head of the DMLE. LOL.

    Luna was really great. Evanna's voice alone makes her a near perfect match for Luna, but then she also fits the part rather well looks-wise too. Makes me wish that, if they can't wise up and ignore canon long enough to pair Harry with Hermione, then they could at least have the sense to put him with Luna and have Ginny trip down the stairs and suffocate when her head accidentally gets stuck in her vagina. R.I.P.

    They change apparation, they make the Order and Death Eaters into 'dueling black and white ghosties' and all sorts of other lame shit, why can't they pick the right things in the books to ignore?

    See, this is so funny and yet so sad, all at the same time.

    We can only fucking hope. My God, how sweet would that be? They could put in a whole kick line of gay Dumbledores with frilly pink knickers and a Grindelwald/Dumbledore love scene and I wouldn't care, as long as they dropped Harry/Ginny and put him with someone who was more interesting than mud.
     
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  19. Demons In The Night

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    Wrong. Voldemort doesn't shoot a giant fire snake out of his ass in the book. What happens is Dumbledore binds Voldemort with a whip of fire, and then Voldemort changes it into a snake. A normal snake. While Dumbledore is preoccupied with the snake, Voldemort tries to hit DD with a potshot AK. Fawkes intercepts the AK and swallows it. DD then traps Voldemort in a sort of water sphere from the water in the fountain. And somewhere in that mess Dumbledore casts the powerful spell that Harry says made the hair on his arm stand up, and the statue thing.



    I for one, hated OOTP with a passion. They completely disregarded or changed some of the most basic rules in canon (the wandless magic in DD/LV DOM fight scene), the ship dodging in the beginning (completely disregarding the statute of secrecy), the random white/black smoke shit in the DOM fight scene. I just couldn't take it. That, and all the other changes they made and scenes they cut out ruined it for me. Oh, and what really got me was in the scene where Harry goes to the Ministry of Magic for his trial, it seems like every fucking wizard in Britain just happened to be in the Ministry at the same time. There is no way there could be that many wizards and witches entering the MoM at the same time. They exploded the population of magic users by a factor of 100 (or so it seemed). Way too many WTF NO moments. I had to visibly restrain myself from walking out. I first saw the movie I think in November, and I tried to watch it again a week or two ago, and I couldn't. It was so bad I had to turn it off.

    1.5/5
     
  20. Bratling

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    I didn't really like the movie, mainly because it cut out the best bits of OOtP and emphasized the worst parts. But it was the little details they screwed up that really cheesed me off. Voldemort has red eyes. Not green. RED.
     
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