OK, Doctor you now have to write a Medieval!Harry/Feminist!Hermione fic. you are cracking me up with your scenes.

 

I'm thinking just wands as a weapon, and a magic repellant sheild to protect him. He will wear armour, decorated in Gryffendor colours.

I thought of having him speak in Old English, but there was just one problem. "Ic don noht gecweðan eald Engliscgereorde" I do not speak old English. I am actually questioning how sad I am since I just spent five minuets forming that sentance using a Modern to Old English Dictionary.

I figure that the Wizards never spoke Old English, and always spoke modern English. It was their influance over the muggles that developed Modern Day English.

You're scenes are hilarious! But I don't think I could pull it off. You could though and should So write one! I'm going to write Harry/Fleur... sort of. I don't know if they will actually get together, but Harry will be all over her. I've actually almost gotten a plot!!!

Ginny- um... definatly not a pairing. If she does feature, which I doubt, no one will be looking at the spattergroit. But you did just give me some material for Fred and George!

Hermione- I agree. I haven't got many plans for her character, but I may have Harry persue her for a little while... maybe once or twice.

Luna; Nope, won't work. I don't think... still... he might try at first...

Cho; *snorts*

Fleur; Her stuck up attitude is what I'm thinking of at the moment. As far as I can see it will be Harry/Fleur.

I think knights were taught in the way of cleanliness and hygine. However, he will smell due to him liking his "manly stench". And Deodrant wasn't invented. (Well, I think something like it was... but I'm going to disregard that since I don't understand it) I think they cleaned their teeth, according to some artical I found they used a hazel twig and wiped with a woolen cloth.

No underwear? *grins* and no sleepwear? I thankyou!

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Does anyone has any ideas about his eyesight? Glasses were invented in the thirteenth century... but they'd get in the way of a knight. It still puzzles me that a wizard can regrow bones but can't invent a pair of glasses and instead use muggle inventions. I am at a loss... I could never be an inventor.

 

*Ponders*

Potentially a charm that acted as glasses. It could twist and warp the air to such a point it would be like looking through glasses?

Why a wand? There are many weapons out there that could be a magical foci, and one handed.

Dagger, wakizashi (Japanese short-sword. Used by Samurai. Could go the route that the Japanese used Wakizashi in lieu of wands), mace, morning-star, whip (I could SO see Fleur drooling at the whip XD). Etc etc

There's a story like this going on, but it's Harry/ Tonks and instead Harry get's punted back into the era of Sparta, before the Battle of Thermopayle.

I could honestly see Harry embracing part of the Samurai culture, with their dedication to honor being very similiar to the code of knighthood.

Just ideas.

Could have Fleur as Harry's "spoils of war" as it were. He beats her in the Tri-Wizard, and as such by ancient law is entitled to take her as property.

*Smirks*

Regards
Aerin

 

I'd be careful with that "spoils of war," "know your place, wench" attitude when dealing with witches. Spellcasting would provide an easy and obvious measurement of which person in the couple is more dangerous...

 

I might just do that. But they'd only be a series of one-shots. Don't worry, your idea remains un-plagiarized.:mrgreen:

One of the major storylines in this should be Harry slowly adapting to the twentieth century. We have the scene where he's introduced to deodorant and shampoo, the scene where he's taken to the optometrist and dentist, the scene where Hermione introduces him to the wonders of lacy underwear, and so on.

 

This fic will be epic fail if it has anything to do with Japan and the samurai. Though, I must question where you got it in your head that it might.

 

Ooh! Ooh!
Don't forget - Harry won't be allowed to have weapons (other than his wand) anywhere on the School grounds - and he probably hasn't been completely disarmed At Least since he was accepted for Squire training. Wand is sure to be his primary weapon, but only a fool (or a member of the British Wizarding World) would have a policy of NO training in bladed or unarmed combat. I think a squire would get a dagger, to indicate the first step to adulthood. Confiscating all his weapons, and KEEPING him from getting more, should be an ongoing battle. And I expect him to be twitchy and jumpy (just waiting for people to jump out at him) for a long time. Part of combat training would include combat readiness at all times.

 

I was thinking something like that at first, but, if it exsisted, wouldn't the modern day wizarding world have something like that? And then, why would they invent glasses? Even if that was the muggles. Stupid wizarding world. Maybe I can just not mention his glasses... you know, avoid them. At least it will be one fic that won't mention Harry's emerald orbs! Not once! I wonder if it is possible to write around?...

I don't really understand the whole Japanese phase thing, although I am starting Tai Chi (it comes free with my gym). I'm using wands because he is a wizard and since Ollivander's has been around since forever I'm guessing Wizards always used wands. I think a dagger would be the most he might have on his person... Although I'm thinking a wizarding staff.. then he could use it during lancing.

I might take a gander at it, but um, what is the era of Sparta? And when was the battle of Thermopayle? Am I shit at history, or is it fiction?

I don't think I could EVER write one of those arranged marrage, or must marry or marrage law fics. Not really my thing. Cool idea but I think Banner is right, Fleur would so hex his balls off.

I don't think you can plagiarise an idea, can you? And hey, I'd love someone to write this; their's might even be legable!

Harry IS a member of the British Wizarding World.
Squires fight in wars, they just aren't knights yet. So he would have training in other weapons. I think a typical broadsword, that's what knights have isn't it? and a dagger on his person, but a fancy one; I think they were fashionable? Everyone had one in Robin Hood anyhow.

 

One thing that always irks me about stories where a person is transported through long temporal distances is that the stories never contain language gaps. The English spoken in Medieval Britain would be virtually incomprehensible to a modern day speaker. Since Harry will grow up speaking it, he's going to have the opposite problem coming back to his native timeline: He won't understand anyone and no one will understand him.

Also, if you're talking about the age of the founders, that's pre-Medieval. Anglo-Saxon, had only been around for about a little over a hundred years and was finally starting to congeal into what was Old English. Basically, in the 990s AD, Harry would grow up speaking a dialect of Frisian Germanic, so if you can imagine Harry coming back to the 1990s and speaking a more complex form of German, that's about what he would sound like to everyone.

Of course, you could use this to have him fall in with the Durmstran crowd at Hogwarts during the tournament, since the German speakers would be able to understand him better (If you can read German, you can usually stumble through a page of Old English and get the gist of what was written, so I imagine speaking would be similar enough). You'd basically have people like Krum translating for Harry.

Just a thought.

 

I agree with you, but there is a slight issue with your idea. It conforms more closely to reality, without making it more interesting. Instead it would make it slightly tedious to have someone teach Harry, or pull some Deus ex machina to have him learn the language automatically.

I say it is a better solution to have him simply speak the English the others speak, maybe with a few exaggerations or odd words for comic relief.

 

If he's a squire, doesn't he have to take some sort of Oath of loyalty? I can't remember the process, but that could be a nice twist, if he's bound in some way that no one else knows about...
Maybe his adoptive parents will have arranged a marriage for him. Please note: an arranged marriage, NOT a forced one. Responsible and loving parents would make sure that Harry and the girl were suited and liked each other.

He's much closer to adulthood than modern fourteen-year-old boys - he might already be sexually active, he's undoubtedly hunted and killed animals for the table, possibly seen actual combat (not a battle, but a border dispute or bandit attack.) To the objective eye, Ron, Seamus, etc, (playful, tempermental, and irresponsible) would seem like they suffer from arrested development. The concept of "adolescence" is a modern invention - people had a short period of childhood, then were considered young adults. Draco Malfoy and some of the Ravenclaws, on the other hand, are studying hard to bring honor to father and family.

Harry could well be PISSED that so many animals (like snidgets and aurochs) are extinct.

 

Writing in Middle English is a chore (though I do find it fun for a little bit). Few will put the effort needed to write time-cohesive dialogue for a timetravel fic that goes back 2+ centuries. Iambic Pentameter anyone?

Old English is, while decipherable by us, garble and gibberish. There's no reason to attempt to write dialogue using old english (unless you just plan to insert old english words/phrases for local color – that's a good idea).

 

No one said that the author had to write in Old English. I simply suggested that the reader understand that the characters cannot fully (more like very barely) understand one another. As I said, it could lend itself to some fantastic interaction with the Durmstrang crowd, as they'd get a lot of what Harry was saying, and they could act as translators. Even better, get a manipulative bastard who interprets what's being said in ways he sees fit.

It would give a whole new spin on "I thought I'd be seeing you soon." The author could add an -er to that.

 

Well one thing I always thought would be kind of cool to overcome the time travel language barrier is Parseltounge. That would be a universal, unchanging language, and apparently, from DH, it's learnable.

My advice to you is to not make his dialogue too obviously foreign, as that's the type of gimmicky thing that can take away from a story.

Also keep in mind the idea of courtly love.

From Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtly_love

Basically, a knight was supposed to pine for a lady, and treat her as the woman on a pedestal for whom he was supposed to do anything he did for, but he wasn't allowed to actively pursue her as it would sort of taint her. This is very much simplifying it, and I suggest you do some independent research, but I think it would be kind of fun to see a Harry who believed in that falling in love.

And The Doctor- I don't know if anyone ever told you, but I don't know any female who would drool (and feel a mad urge to masturbate) at the sight of a penis. Not even the slash bunnies. It's probably the equivalent of a male getting a hard on and masturbating to a Georgia O'Keefe painting. And if you want a feminist!Hermione, having her drool over a penis is probably not the way to go.

 

I did look into his speaking Old English. Even tried to write it. "Ic don noht gecweðan eald Engliscgereorde"

The problem I find with stories that DO try to put up language barriers is that language barriers are a pain in the ass. Whether you are traveling through time, or just a couple hours down the road. (Okay, so maybe Wales isn't really a language barrier, but we all know that they were talking English up until the point we walk into the shop!)

Can't the fact that he is a wizard overcome the barrier? Say, Old English was the lanuage of muggles, and wizards created a new lanuage, Modern day English. Muggles learnt it through the years due to Squibs and other such influences. (A really bad plothole filler, but hey! So long as no one asks, I'll never have to use it! Like his glasses... I'll write around it!)

When I was doing my research and planning this story out I might have just gotten confused with my centurys. Why the tenth century can't be the one with TEN in it, I'll never know. Therefore I've set all the background to how it was after the Normans took over. Anglo-Saxon was still spoken, but it was gradually changing.

What also gets me is that if Hogwarts was founded in the tenth Century then castles were still wooden, sort of, the stone castles had yet to be built.

Yes he does. He takes it unto his Lord, which would be Godric. I haven't quite began figuring out what this will mean for Harry, except that he will shun the Slytherins. I already found two Oaths from the middleages.

 

Well, the idea just popped into my head. I had to write it down. But you're right.

Perhaps Hermione's helping him with the Second Task. She orders him into the lake, and he proceeds to strip down to nothing. Then you have the cliched "trying but failing to stare at his crotch".

Urgh. I think I crossed over into romantic comedy territory.

 

I wonder when house-elves came into common use? Has Harry ever seen one before? What's Harry's view on Fleur, seeing that she's (obviously) part-Veela? What's Harry's reaction to Hagrid - he might well have grown up on (true) horror stories about giant attacks.
Does this Harry know how to swim?

 

"You allow women into education with no fear for what it may do to them, we have to learn from a shrewish pict and there isn't even a place of worship on the castle grounds? You people are mad! Lights of angels, this is clearly the end times, surely the ground will swallow us up before we need fear of this he-who-must-not-be-named you speak of."

You twisted monsters with your women in trousers and loose morals have made poor old fashioned Harry take quite a turn for the worse, bonus points to anyone who got a meaning with no relation to illumination just after the exclamation mark. Its only going to get worse when he realises there are Irish on the shores.


(Now I just have to hope I haven't put anything anachronistic for the period in there.)

 

You raise a good point about houseelves there. I have yet to think of those...

So far I have written the very beginning of the fic. I'm going to post it in the "work by authors" section. I figured the story should start when he is thrown into the future, then after that I'll put in memories of his childhood, and then he'll wake up in the future world. I've so far only written the part leading upto him being thrown back through time.

It is a rough version; hopefully it won't burn anyones eyes.

 

Actually Alter Alias brings up some good points. It would be nice to have Harry flip out when he sees Seamus and try to kill him with a blunt kitchen instrument. If you make him English per say, it would be good to see his poor opinion of the Scottish, Welsh and Irish. That way there is some character conflict with Minerva McGonagall, Seamus and anyone else of "doubtful" heritage.