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Complete Demon’s Feign, Merlin’s Pain by Nuhuh - M - Dresden Files

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Nuhuh, Apr 1, 2007.

  1. That Wench

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    EDIT: Fuck you .... *** <--and I blanked it out because I'm not rude.

    Also ... wtf, why am I the only one who wants it?! Do they not realise it's Deirdre (Queen of all things kinky) and Potter?!
     
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    I'll back you up, That Wench.
     
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    Just because you said that, you have to click on this link.
     
  5. Philly Homer

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    I'm all for Deirdre/Harry smut, fuck I'm even in for some Roca/Harry smut. Yeah I said it... :O_O:
     
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  6. Nuhuh

    Nuhuh Dastardly Shadow Admin Retired Staff

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    Roqariel is an OC, her past history was in one of the earlier chapters, where Lasciel giver her coin to Potter. Read that up and it will tell you who she is.

    As far as Potter's character, wait and see. Nonjon once thought I was going for a Dark!Harry. I am not. But the expression of his own definition of morality should be a little confusing, just like his madness. That's his character.

    Blah Blah Blah tells me a lot ;) I am working on the next part. Deleted three pages of shit though, so might take a little.

    No. "Fallen" refers to them as a group and individuals. So both would be correct.
    Don't encourage her please.
    That's almost weirder in some ways. And no, just no...

    Ishtar story recommend in my thread. :O_O:

    -blinks-

    -slaps PhillyHomer-

    Get a hold of yourself, she's a kid! ;)
     
  7. Philly Homer

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    Fine, be that way :mad:.


    Still hopes for Harry/Lasciel/Roca threesome
     
  8. Jon

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    Roqa not Roca. ~_~
     
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  10. Philly Homer

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    That was very embarrassing, I guess I misspelled her name in my... uhm excitement. :p
     
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    I don't know If i posted earlier, but the idea of Harry having a denarion's (spelled wrong, I think) kind of disgusts me. EVen crazy, shoudln't the denarion have the ability to take control of his body? Or would his status as an outsider make him immune to that form of mind control from the coin. Also, wouldn't Michael be able to sense the coin on Harry? Then he could believe he was protecting Harry from the denarion by attacking him and taking the coin.
     
  13. QuaziJoe

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    If I remember correctly Harry has to willingly give up control to the fallen.

    I think there was enough leeway in his agreement with Lasciel to keep him from doing that. Though with Harry's lack of knowledge, the only thing keeping him from saying hell yes, other than the creepy non British child soaked in blood, would be his unwillingness to give up control. I still doubt he truly grasps what a Denarian is... considering which part of his anatomy(his PENIS) he was thinking with at the time he got the coin.

    But I do agree... this Harry would be horrible as a Denarian. The only reason Sheeza's Harry was cool was because he was such a little Antichrist, and liked it.

    But I doubt it would come to that.

    No, what I'm wondering is... if the dudes could pull Harry from the outside (where he apparently was for some length of time) why didn't they pull a Denarian. I had assumed it was Denarians who were responsible, or at least followers of Denarians. Now I'm wondering if they are only trying to find Harry because he seemingly escaped the outside.

    Feel free to respond to any of these statements Nuhuh...
     
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  14. Nuhuh

    Nuhuh Dastardly Shadow Admin Retired Staff

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    QuaziJoe~

    Haven't heard from you in a long time.

    Anyway, why Potter was pulled from the Outside has been established. He speaks the 'fallen tongue,' look at the Lasciel scene again and that will give you the explanation.

    The Black Knights weren't trying just to bring in a fallen angel trapped in the Outside, they needed someone who could unlock their powers. That being Potter. That is why they summoned him and that is why they are pursuing him.

    Lasciel gave Roqariel to Potter for safe keeping. He is her guardian now. It was Lasciel's last duty that she still took care of after being chucked out of Heaven.

    Roqariel is not there so much to corrupt Potter, but to be protected by him. Her character is half and half too. She is not completely a fallen because she simply followed Lasciel when she was expelled from Heaven, Roqariel herself had no beef with God. Again her dual nature was talked about in the Lasciel scene.

    And I think you guys are stereotyping what a "denarian" is based on Shezza's story. An excellent portrayal by him. But those of you who have read the Dresden series know Harry Dresden with Lasciel's coin was very different from Shezza's denarian.

    And no a fallen can't simply take over their host. They have to win control from them by seduction, promises, maybe threats. They have to do something that make their host give over control. So Potter will not be simply taken over.

    Potter is also full of different sorts of powers, and several destinies. His situation is a little complex. I'll be nice and give you a hint, Potter taking the coin is directly related to what the Gatekeeper said about Potter having to do something in the Dresden world before he can go back.

    What is happening is part of the overarching storyline of this fic. So I won't say anything more.
     
  15. QuaziJoe

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    Nuhuh~

    It has been a while...

    As to the fallen tongue bit, I was just wondering if there was more to it I guess. I have to admit I haven't re read your story in a while so I probably forgot some bits.

    As to lash from the book. If I'm to understand it, Harry was never really host to the full power of Lasciel, only a shadow of her true self, which he ended up influencing.

    Don't quote me I'm only just starting the second book, so I have a ways to go before I get there. My point is, I don't think Harry has ever really experienced a true denarian yet. So Sheeza's denarian is just as valid I suppose. Not trying to Rip on you or anything, just trying to defend our assumptions.

    I am surprised though with how you portrayed Roqariel. When I first read the Lasciel scene I had thought she was really just a sweet kid; an angel dubbed Denarian. I hadn't expected, Wendy Adams best friend.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is... MOAR!

    PS: Your hints are as cryptic as ever, thats why we hate you. ^^
     
  16. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    I've re-read Ch12 and 13, so I've combined all of my feedback into one post.

    I wonder if he's subconsciously thinking of Roqariel here (innocent little girl with a guileless expression). Or is Molly really that dangerous?

    That is so cute. :)

    Molly is also pretty cute. She's full of energy and enthusiasm like a hyper-active puppy. Her bedroom scene was fun to read.

    Charity is not cute. But she is a perfectly realised 'mother'. I'm surprised by how realistic she is. I've seen other mothers behave in exactly the same manner.

    Self-recrimination

    Ch. 13

    When did Deirdre get flattened on the road? Did a giant anvil fall on her head?

    Is off needed there?

    In Ch12, Roqariel is both adorable, and homicidal, but never adorably homicidal. Being adorable was just a mask for her ruthlessly psychotic persona underneath. Her behaviour left me wondering if Lasciel had lied about Roqa's innocence.

    In Ch13, yes, Roqariel is adorably homicidal. I like this one. Whereas Ch12-Roqa left me confused, Ch13-Roqa is kinda fun to read. Aaaaw, isn't she so cu-- *gurgle* *I try to hold my throat together as blood spills down my front*

    Roqa's character still isn't clear though, at times she behaves like a child ("sing me a lullaby"), at others she doesn't, she has a large vocabulary for an apparent little girl, and her steadfast loyalty to Hell ("I am Roqariel, I was Heaven's retribution, I will be Hell's vengence.") is slightly puzzling, as is Harry's cooperation.

    That was a run-on sentence. O_O

    I'm definitely looking forward to more of this, Nuhuh.
    Two more books after this one? You bitch, Nuhuh. I take it back. I'm not looking forward to it anymore. How am I supposed to wait that long for the answers to be revealed!? All I see is pain in my future, as you methodically drip drop out chapters one at a time for eternity, teasing me with answers forever, ala RJordan and the WoT. If I can't break my addiction now I might never be free!

    *Starts looking for the fanfic detox clinic*

    Thanks You bitch,
    Yak
     
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  17. Nuhuh

    Nuhuh Dastardly Shadow Admin Retired Staff

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    Chapter 13 is up. Has a lot of contribution from my loyal proof readers. Thank you.

    Only an ff.net link right now, it's late, cbf to format it for work by author right now.

    Link FF.net:The Fallen's Victory

    Edit:~

    Okay, now it's on DLP too.

    WBA link: The Fallen's Victory
     
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  18. Jon

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    I condone this offering.
     
  19. MysterioX

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    Not bad at all.

    LOL what I loved was the ending dialogue between Harry and Roqariel.
    Well done.
     
  20. Nuhuh

    Nuhuh Dastardly Shadow Admin Retired Staff

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    haha, yeah, I had fun with that. Roqariel is going to be so much fun to write. Plus I liked how easily a crying fit can counter good sense on Harry's part.

    For all:

    DLP link: Chapter 13