Do the coins actually disrupt technology though? I mean sure, magic does and a Denarian using its powers most likely would. But would an inert coin cause this disruption?

I dunno if mere fire, even dragon fire would be enough. It is ultimately just (mostly) heat afterall, and I doubt that would be enough. The coins have been around for a long time. I would have expected that atleast one of the coins would have been melted by some dragon or other if it was possible.

The unraveling might work though. However getting it would be a different matter. Unraveling one of the coins would be a brilliant way to unite all the remaining Denarians and their allies/servants against Mother Winter after all. Not sure the Winter would want to risk it by giving one to someone planning on destroying those things.

It might even piss off god. I mean the fact that neither he or his archangels have done anything to the coins suggests that he wants them around. Perhaps as a test of humanity or somesuch. Or in vague chance of redeeming them one day or something.

 

That's the theory I like. That the coins are God's attempt at redemption for his fallen angels.

God cast the fallen angels out of Heaven and into a sensory deprivation hell where they went insane for who knows how many millenia. Meanwhile, mankind continues on his path of Old Testament civilisation. Then God, in his mercy, decided to send his son, The Redeemer, down to earth to free us from our burden of sins. Jesus would guide our way into God's embrace and our divine eternal home, if only we acknowledged him.

As God provided a path to redemption for mankind, so did he simultaneously provide one for the fallen angels he had cast into the void. The 30 pieces of silver that were tied to the death of the saviour of mankind, became the vehicle for the fallen's rehabilitation and eventual return to the bosom of God. The Denarians were no longer lost in the void, now they were able to slowly reintegrate themselves into the world they'd lost. They were able to experience the world through human eyes, human thoughts, human desires, and human needs. Perhaps, eventually, they might even come to love humanity.

The arch-angels chose three holy warriors to protect mankind from the worst effects of the returned fallen angels.

In the meantime, God is leaving the path open for the fallen angels to come back to him.

Yak.

 

It's not just the heat that's a part of dragon fire. There's the purely magical element about it as well. Ferrovax has enormous power, so much that if he speaks even part of your Name you can feel it like a physical blow. It wouldn't be merely heat that would attack the coin, it would be the power of the oldest dragon as well, and that's not something to laugh at.

Of course this relies on actually finding a dragon to work, and then would probably need its cooperation, cause I imagine it would take the full power of the dragon to completely destroy the coin.

On the Coins as redemption tools thing... I quite like it actually. Seems to fit in with what the Christian God would do, and DF canon does point toward Fallen being redeemed. Just look at Lash.

Aekiel

 

Yeah maybe. But I don't think enormous magical power is enough. I mean the swords are incredibly powerfull and yet the knights are unable to destroy the coins. And the white council has not, I am sure the senior council could take on even a dragon, but they have not destroyed any of the coins in their entire existence. I think you need something more special than just raw power. The unraveling is a good example of something "special" that does not depend on pure strength.

Yeh. And as I said before, the destruction of one of the coins would probably unite all the rest of the fallen against the destroyer. They know that they might be next afterall. Better work together to make sure it wont happen again.

Well, in all accuracy Lash was not one of the fallen. She was a copy, a shadow of one but not the fallen itself. That is why she was nicknamed Lash. The only reason she was redemeed was because she existed in Dresdens head and as such was as malleable as he himself was. Infact it is explicitly said by Dresden that he could not redeem one such as Lasciel but that Lash was not her.

Despite that however. It has never been said that the true fallen are incapable of redemption. It would have to be a lot harder than what happened with Lash however. It does make sense though. I mean who would have created the coins if not God? There are no indications that god in the DF universe has any malice in him so what other reason could there be for the coins being around.

 

The coins can only be destroyed by... throwing them into the fires of Mount Doom.

 

Well Mordor probably exists somewhere in the Nevernever, so it could work . Possibly around Never-Afghanistan, or Never-Tibet .

Aekiel

 

That was exactly the sort of thing that was going through my mind when I was reading the thread.

 

I had a feeling someone was gonna say something like this. That'd be interesting to read, HP/DF/LotR crossover, where Sauron was really a fallen angel. Or something..?

 

Well if you want to get technical, Sauron was a fallen angel in the Lotr universe. Crossing three universes might get tricky, especially since Lotr does not have any subtle deals that can be incorporated into Harry Potter, which should remain the main realm.

 

A triple-crossover would fail. Throwing together elements from three universes would create too many unexplainable plot holes.

Plus, it would be completely ridiculous.

 

It would be EPIC FAIL!

Yeah now that I think about it, it might be kind of...impossible? Maybe a parody for some good laughs...

 

MPreg authors must die, they are in the very nature of voicing such blasphemey are crimes against Humanity.
Though there are good more than two universe cross over fics.

 

I can only say that Shezza continues to impress me with his awesome battle scenes and the always very enjoyable "filling" chapters.

 

It's not that much of a stretch considering this sites feelings on Harry/Lilly.

I can see Hermione attempting to call child services or something. I cant wait until umbridge finds out about it.

 

Hehehe. Maybe not child services, but Harry might/should get a news article out of this. I mean the general populace in HP probably does not know much about the sidhe or time distortions so as far as they know Harry is a weirdo freak who first had sex at age 6. And even if he tells the truth, he would be branded as a weirdo freak who had sex with a non-human faery. I doubt that would go over all that well in the prejudiced Wizarding World.

 

As if the general public would believe that a 14/15yo boy would have an 8yo child. That's the kind of rubbish that would get published in The Quibbler. There are many other, far more likely explanations, that the public would be only too happy to believe. Most of them revolve around the idea that she is not his daughter.

Yak

 

You never know the public in the wizarding world is pretty stupid.

 

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