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Complete The Denarian Knight by Shezza88 - M - Dresden Files

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Rehio, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. Joschneide

    Joschneide Groundskeeper

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    I liked the original characterization of Harry in your first draft fine. He's not treating her any different between edits, the public's reaction and her identity as a cousin is the only difference (changing to a cousin is the only change I didn't mind, as it allows Harry to keep his cards to himself for a bit longer).

    I hope to high hell you don't have Harry train Amaris, I disagree with anyone who thinks it would be an intelligent move. It would be completely out of character for Harry at this point and would server as filler that would detract from the story. She's a good side-character, a way for Harry's character to mature. But developing her uses words that could be better spent developing other things such as the why behind Harry being chosen as a knight, Meciel's inner workings (is she going to take over Harry or will she fall in love with her host), etc etc.

    There are quite a few plot ideas you've been subtlely, and not so subtlely exploring that would take a backseat to Amaris's education and interaction with Harry.


    Your original edit was easily a 4/5. The change to cousin made it slightly better but the change over perception (in other words, popular opinion... like it matters to Harry) I think dulled the potential for comedy later, comedy that could include Harry and Amaris (who I see developing a snobby attitude towards mortals that don't have her DNA).


    Great to see so much this last day, hope to see more.


    EDIT: Oh yeah, I (as I hope all of us have) read all of J.K.'s HP. If I can't stick it out through a couple of chapters that don't mesh well with me when I could read a couple of books that didn't mesh well with me, then I'm just looking to complain, wouldn't you agree? I don't see myself abandoning reading a quality story if I dislike one, two, hell maybe even three chapters. But I guess I'm not everyone.
     
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  2. rj_stone2

    rj_stone2 Seventh Year

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    Seems like something is missing in the bolded bit. Also, first cousin isn't very obscure, so I don't quite understand what Harry's saying there.

    Instead of inherited, maybe "You certainly share Mr. Potter's..."? Also, I'm not sure if this is really over-the-top enough to prompt the fetish discussion. You know you want to give in to your inner Simpsons fan here ("Why must you turn this castle into a house of lies?").

    I like the new version, the changes are subtle, but now it's more that Harry is snapping at Amaris out of irritation rather than being deliberately cruel.
     
  3. Amerision

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    I actually laughed. Do you know how amazing that is?

    The 'retard' lines were just amazing.
     
  4. MysterioX

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    I agree with Datakim and Sree views when it comes to the treatment of Amaris.

    The edited version is much better but I’ll miss seeing Amanda’s reaction so soon…

    Will there a small Harry/Amaris/Draco*NO, NOTHING SEXUAL* scene? I love it when Draco’s face gets introduced to a wall.
     
  5. Jon

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    You missed the point entirely.

    http://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=825
     
  6. Jon

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    Amaris Omake will be released on the weekend unless I have a reason to detain it.
     
  7. yak

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    It was fun to read. I was sporting a grin from the moment of Amaris' first line to Amanda's last one. Win. :D

    Before I read this, I thought that Harry/Amanda/Amaris interactions might be awkward. Oh, how wrong I was.

    Yak
    wonderfully wrong
     
  8. Chime

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    The heavens opened up and–

    That will be win, assuredly.



    Great chapter Shezza, even if with all the changes, it's a little confusing what's going on (I'm sure it'll make sense on FFnet).

    An off hand comment:
    I don't think it will be Harry, for whom we think is the one to change, but Meciel. She's been acting more and more like an Archangel than any demon, since the story has progressed. Her concern for Harry and Amaris are proof of it.
     
  9. yak

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    That's where I'm putting my money.
    Hmmm... It was Meciel's love for children that caused to her to disobey God in the first place. Her concern for Amaris may not be a sign of her redemption so much as a manifestation of a core part of her personality. Whether she's Angel or Fallen, perhaps she just loves children.

    Yak.
     
  10. Datakim

    Datakim Chief Warlock

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    I liked this final part. It was back to your usual awesome quality. :)

    One nitpick that I could offer is that it was a bit strange when Harry pulled his wand from his robes when he was startled by Amaris. I mean he was in the process of practising that petrification curse so the fact that the wand was suddenly in his robes was a bit strange. He should either have the wand in his hand or you should add a line telling us that he put it away before Amaris comes in.

    Other than that very minor nitpick however, I liked everything. Amaris was cool and Harry was his standard amusing self without being too evil. Great work! :)
     
  11. Augurey

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    Yes she does, especially with on rye with a little mustard.
     
  12. Rehio

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    It's nice to know that Shezza thinks of me when she's writing.
     
  13. Augurey

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    I think the usual word there would be "shower." If you're going to use "spew" use "...which crackled, hissed, and spewed grey sparks."

    I had no idea his hand was capable of flowing as a liquid. Try "...a vicious motion."
     
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  14. Oz

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    You phrased this kind of weirdly.
    'He must not have seen Harry come down, because when he stood up, anger clouded his face. He paused when he saw the Denarian though, and slinked away quietly.'

    Showering helps ;)
    Seriously though, you need a comma after 'since'
    Now onto the... hang on a second...

    But he did avoid Harry...:confused:

    I'm getting really confuzzled now. Didn't the seventh year 'slink away'?

    '"Aaaannnnnndddddd sssooo IIIIIIIIII ssssssaaaaaayyyyyyyysssssss tttttoooooooo hhhhhhiiiiiiimmmmmm'
    Get the point? You can use 'slowly' for speech if someone is saying something they're doubtful of. Maybe 'faintly', 'quietly' or if ya' want to be really poetic 'in hushed tones' will make more sense.

    As I said before, 'brittle' implies weakness (at least it does to me).

    That 'as she' doesn't need to be there. Drop it.

    You could say 'deep in thought' as well.

    You're missing a quotation mark after 'Perhaps I am'.

    Ix-nay on the aughter-day ezza-Shay ;)

    Reading that sentence out loud was like, in the immortal words of the band Cannibal Corpse in their hit single, I cum blood, trying '
    To slit my own cock with a knife'. You need a comma man. I'd recommend it after the words 'common room', but whatever floats yer boat.

    Sense, it makes not young padawan.
    '
    “Whoa,” Harry said, as Hermione stared at the little girl in shock. Amaris folded her hands in her lap and stood, absently straightening out the small white dress she was wearing. “I like you already.”'

    Hermione is exclaiming, making this a prime opportunity to use the exclamation mark. Catch my drift!

    I'd have said 'in'. Some people have been complaining commenting on the fact that this is Harry saying Amaris is his daughter.
    Dey is wrongz. I've said shit like that before (usually when I'm babysitting one of my countless cousins), and I'm not a father.

    Scrap this entire sentence. In this revised version, Harrry didn't raise his wand, and the other students weren't nearly as hostile.

    I'd swap 'butter' with 'bacon grease' so that it reads a bit better, and I'd put a comma after 'robes'. I'd also change 'the' to 'his'.

    Put a 'the' between them.

    I'd have said 'Speaking of annoying', but to each his own.

    'Harry debated with himself whether or not he should tell Dumbledore,'

    I'd drop the words highlighted in red, and put the word 'had' after 'confidence she'.

    Was the look of revulsion because of Umbridge? I think it was, but the way you write it gives the impression that it was at Amaris.
    And you need a full-stop (but you probably call it a period) after 'twitched'.

    'paying'

    Really? Pulsed? An odd thing to do, don'cha think?

    'addition to the halls of Hogwarts'

    If she said that slowly, she must have a fucking huge set of lungs.
    Put a comma after 'mentioned'.

    That sentence looks like you grabbed a few random words from a bag.
    '“I supervised the construction of that list, and personally interviewed every witch or wizard that claimed to be one of your relatives. I don’t recall ever seeing a small girl.”'

    If it was the next day, there wasn't anything 'eventual' about it. Drop it.

    She says a lot of things slowly, doesn't she? I hope you're not trying to imply she's a fucking retard. :)

    How very lackadaisical of her.

    The verb 'trembling' implies movement, but you've paired it with the adjective 'still' which means a lack of movement. As my father often tells me 'Make up your God-damned mind, before I make it for you!'. ;)

    'complained' works better here.

    Our English teacher once told us if you jack off with a numb hand, it's like someone else is doing it for you.:fap Nice for those lonely nights.;)

    I'd change that to 'gave her'. You don't need to reaffirm that he's smiling/grinning.

    'draw'

    Any reason for why she did this?
    Personally, I'd have said 'which spat and sizzled whilst spraying a sparkling stream of shiny silver sparks.'
    Alliteration ftw!
    I don't think something 'clatters' when it crumbles. And I don't think something normally crumbles to pieces. Fell to pieces maybe? You also need a comma after 'pieces'.
    'The noise died down, except for the last few crashes of a chair falling to pieces, and Amanda's harsh breathing.'
    This your new word Shezzy? 'Literally' is usually only used in that context during speech, so I'd just drop it if I were you.
    :mad: See above.
    Did you know that quotation mark needs to be moved approximately nine words to the left? ;)
    Shezza, if you're gonna make up your own words, you have to at least tell us what they mean. 'rhetorical'
    Drop 'of'. And Amanda raises a good point. Could it be the Latin word for 'therefore'?
    'Thank you' is two words.
    You noticed it too, 'ey Amar?
    *sniff* She really is her fathers daughter isn't she? Also, you need to change 'viscous' to 'vicious'.
    Drop that apostrophe (like Katie Hopkins dropped her knickers).
     
  15. hance1986

    hance1986 Card Captored and buttsecksed

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    It's nice to know that Shezza thinks of me when she's writing.

    -Rehio

    Shezza's a girl?

    i don't really care one way or the other, but i'd like to know.

    if shezza is a girl, she can write a hell lot better than JKR.

    more power to you, shezza
     
  16. fuubar

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    LAWL, no Shezza is a guy. You must have missed the fact that it says Male under his avatar...

    I really like the new edited chapter here it felt much better than the first draft. Harry stays in character and yet seems to care for Amaris in a strange and slightly twisted sort of way.
     
  17. Dark Belra

    Dark Belra Minister of Magic

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    Why do a lot of people think Shezza is a girl?
     
  18. Methene

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    I would presume it stems from the fact that his screen name ends with the letter "A" and thus has a high chance of being a girl's name. History has proven us wrong, however.
     
  19. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    Because she is. Google her full name - shezza88 - and look at her myspace profile if you don't believe me.

    Pretty hot, huh? And a working brain to write awesome stories with to boot!
     
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  20. Jon

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    ....-palm@face-

    I fucking hate you people. I'm not going over this shit again.
     
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