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List of Plot Holes

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Vengashii, Mar 12, 2008.

  1. fuubar

    fuubar Headmaster

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    Yea but still the way I look at it is that even though the Olympics are international I don't think that they ever have any 100k seating available despite them being even larger scale. I dunno it was just something that I thought of.
     
  2. Reyhkt

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    Yeah, ever heard of the television?
     
  3. fuubar

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    By that argument no one should ever go to a football game because they can watch it on the TV.
     
  4. Reyhkt

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    Nearly 100 million people watched the last Superbowl on TV. People did attend the match personally, however very few did so obviously because it was much easier for the average person to watch the match at home.

    Saying that, I can personally guarantee you that there were more people that watched the Olympics on TV, rather than those who bought seats.
     
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  5. Demons In The Night

    Demons In The Night Chief Warlock

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    Yeah, this one is annoying.

    Didn't he receive a set of Defense books from Remus and Sirius in OOTP? So instead of studying now that Voldemort was resurrected, and learning new spells, we can safely assume he never even opened the books (as they are never mentioned again, and Harry doesn't show any new knowledge), or just merely skimmed over them without even attempting to learn anything. Even in OOTP, instead of worrying about his own survival (and the sanctity of his mind), which is one of the strongest forces we humans can feel, he sits around jacking off to Cho all day and losing his temper constantly over stupid shit.

    Way to keep your eye on the ball, Harry.
     
  6. Erotic Adventures of S

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    He was learning. If he hadn't pissed around not learning he wouldn't of had enought love to kill Voldemort... *Vomits*
     
  7. Banner

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    Worst plot hole for me has to be that Harry cast the Cruciatus curse on Bellatrix during OoP, and yet he never caught any flack for it. She would have reported it back to Voldemort when the DE were debriefing after the Department of Mysteries fiasco. The DE and their sympathizers should have used that information to pull Harry out of the conflict entirely. I doubt they could have gotten Potter incarcerated, but the proper spin would have gotten the general public to turn on him again. It isn't like it's difficult to make him unpopular for a while. Leak the information to the Press, and that would force the Aurors to do an investigation/interrogation that would drive an even deeper wedge between Harry and the Magical British Government.
    It's called an Unforgivable, a one-way ticket to Azkaban. I can't see the DE Inner Circle missing this opportunity.
     
  8. The Doctor

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    ALERT: MATHS AHEAD!

    Okay, let's say that there are, max, 10,000 wizards in Britain,. The UK has a population of sixty and a half million people. Handily, we can multiply both figures by 1,000 to get the total of both magical and non-magical people:

    6.5 Billion Muggles, and 10 Million Wizards. If the 100,000 figure for the Quidditch World Cup is accurate, that means that 1% of the entire Wizarding World was at the match.:eek: Surprising that there wasn't a huge Foreign Expeditionary Force in DH trying to bring down Voldemort, no? Plot Hole Numero Uno.

    "Oh no!" Harry said. "All this magic is dark! I can't possibly use it against people who will use any and every possibility to kill me!"

    Plot Hole Numero Dos.

    I doubt it. Since it was Cho, who was, no offence to any Asian Women on this board, ugly as fuck, and married Ginny, I'm guessing he knew little to nothing about sex. 'Specially since he had girls throwing themselves at him. "Oh Harry, what's the matter? Anything I can do to help?" Jesus, where's the scene where he accidentally brushes Hermione's tit, and suddenly gets a hard-on? Apparently, Rowling forgot her main character was (1) A teenager, and (2) A guy.

    While we're at it, Plot Hole Numero Tres: Hermione's apparent loss of 100 IQ points between OOtP and HBP. Seriously. Only a retarded transvestite with no sexual drive whatsoever could find Ron "I masturbate while watching my mother undress" Weasley attractive.

    The only reason Lavender jumped Ron's bones was because he was the last guy in the school who hadn't.
     
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  9. Jenkins

    Jenkins Forum Bike DLP Supporter

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    I always thought that wands were a plothole.

    I could never wrap my head around the fact the Ollivander can create the 'perfect match' wand for every witch and wizard child in Britain using only 3 magical ingredients.

    Dunno if it counts as a plot hole though
     
  10. The Doctor

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    Actually, until the First Movie came out, I always imagined wands having stars at the end of them.:eek:

    It probably is bullshit, seeing as how there are other wandmakers, and Wizards can use other wands. You'd be easier off custom-choosing the parts for your wand. I'm sure Methene would appreciate the Malfoys being able to purchase superior, expensive wands.:)
     
  11. Warlocke

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    The fan mail hole is a valid issue. Harry should have known his past through the mail he got long before going to school. Dumbledore had to have stopped it somehow, but this is never addressed in the books.

    As for the elaborate kidnapping plot in GoF: She could have used the excuse that the ritual had to take place on a very specific day, for astrological purposes. This would force them to wait and plan ahead. Having the Tournament's final task on the same day wouldn't be a coincidence, because it might very well be tradition to have the final day during said astrological positioning.

    However, that doesn't even address the fact that Harry could have been kidnapped at ANY point after school started, and then been held prisoner until the ritual. Sure, do it too far ahead of time and you take a chance that Dumbledore and his Order will hunt you down, but to wait until the very last minute with an elaborate Portkey ruse? Barty-Moody could have slapped a Portkey on him at any time and gotten away before anyone was the wiser.

    Draco
    could have too, for that matter! For anyone out there who thinks that killing Draco is too harsh because he's not a threat, think again. It would be so easy to portkey someone off of school grounds... It doesn't take half the balls or finesse that sneaking death eaters into Hogwarts does, so a little shit like Draco could pull it off with nearly zero effort. The same could be said for any junior death eater. Shit, polyjuice into someone Harry won't suspect, hand him a 'note from the Headmaster' and watch him vanish as he touches the parchment and you speak the trigger word.

    As some Brits would no doubt say, 'It would be a piece of piss.'

    I promise not to hire goons to 'steal' your kneecaps if you swear to never utter that phrase ever again.

    What you are looking for is 'For all intents and purposes.'

    Believe me, you don't want the trip to the Intensive Care Unit that would show you what 'intensive purposes' really are. :whipped:
     
  12. Yunaine

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    You could probably write over 100 points of plot holes from the entire series. I’ll go for one that annoys me the most. After HBP was done and I read that, there was absolutely no way that Harry could win in the next book unless some miracle came up. A miracle did come up, and it wasn’t even the Deathly Hallows themselves.

    Draco disarms Dumbledore; Harry disarms Draco; Voldemort nicks the Elder wand and disarms/kills Snape; The Elder wand rightfully belongs to Harry and ‘both wands know it’.

    What the bloody hell? In the first book it is said that “the wand chooses the wizard”. In the seventh book there is suddenly an excuse/miracle added that says “hey you, if you disarm this faggot then all of the wands he currently ‘owns’ (Draco: his wand and the Elder wand) are suddenly ‘for you’”.

    Now how interesting that it might sound, how come this never came up during… classes? The D.A.-meetings? Surely during those two there were -practical- lessons to disarm someone. That would mean that the wands would change hands every half minute and by the end there would be students with less compatible wands.

    And even then, the so-called purebloods should have known this at the very least. Even though some fanfictions talk about ‘Family Magic’ and other stuff, you could presume that such proud families would at the very least know about how their main equipment (wand) works and that they would pass such knowledge on to their children.

    Funny how that never occurred. JKR’s miracle to have Harry win from Voldemort inserted in book seven and not using her mind on how it would reflect bad on every single previous book.
    It’s probably the same as how Dumbledore ‘flew on a broom to the ministry’ since she hadn’t invented floo/apparition at that time.


    Note: If the wand-switching is wrong and for instance only works on the Elder wand, then my apologies for the possible mistake I posted. I refuse to pick up DH to re-read the thing...ever.
     
  13. fuubar

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    Ah yes thank you Doc thats the point that I was trying to make, just couldn't find the right words.

    Nope it works for all wands not just the Elder wand. As Harry was using Malfoy's wand for the last half of DH and it didn't feel 'strange' to him.

    As for the "wand choses the wizard" that actually does make sense with what JKR was saying because the wand choses the wizard that won in a fight. Still that does not explain how they didn't screw all of the wand ownership up in the DA, unless it is in the intent perhaps? You have to be in an actual fight and beat someone not just practicing. Hmm now I'm trying to fill the hole in, not a good thing.
     
  14. Seratin

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    Perhaps Malfoy's wand was just a good fit for him, I'm pretty sure that the disarming rule only works for the elder wand.

    How did Ron and Hermione get out of the chamber of secrets in DH?
     
  15. fuubar

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    Its been awhile since I read DH but IIRC Olivander also said that it works for all wands. I do remember for sure that Harry couldn't use Hermione's wand easily and that she couldn't use Bellatrix's wand because they were both still 'loyal' to there owner. Of course that really does come down to the same thing in a strange sort of way except it just means that you can make a wand match you if you kick the previous owners ass.
     
  16. Blaise

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    I thought they had brooms...too lazy to check the book though, meh.

    Or perhaps Ron, while stiffling a sneeze from the stench of the decaying basilisk, hissed out "Stairs" in Parseltongue...
     
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    IIRC in traditional mythology, holly (Harry's wand material) has the reputation of suppressing magic.
     
  18. Demons In The Night

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    *projectile vomits*


    *takes a shower*



    *sends bomb to JKR*
     
  19. Reyhkt

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    You wouldn't even have to. Just a simple disarming charm, the intent to take the wand for yourself, and poof magically the wand is yours. It's pretty pathetic isn't it? No wonder wands cost only 7 galleons. If all it took was a disarming charm to lose ownership of your wand, you would be going back to Ollivanders every couple of days.
     
  20. Demons In The Night

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    Cost 'only' 7 galleons? It's more expensive than pretty much every other school supply that you would need. 7 galleons is a decent amount of money in the wizarding world. if my conversions are right, that's about 35 pounds or around 50 dollars. That's a decent amount of money. The Weasley's couldn't even afford to buy Ron his own wand in his first year. Granted, they are the poorest family we know of, but it's still a decent amount of money. Only the upper middle class and rich purebloods could afford to replace their wands every couple of days. Also, it isn't guaranteed that a replacement wand is as good as a match as your first one. You may never find a wand that fits you as well as your first one. I would imagine that losing your wand is nothing to be taken lightly in the wizarding world even if you can afford a replacement. I might even go as far as to say it would be like losing a good friend.
     
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