This is totally new ability. Sure he developed it by experimenting with an old ability, but it does something completely different and new.

 

So being able to pull magic instead of push it is that fundamentally different? I mean it is different to an extent, but not to the extent of a deus ex machina...the tracks had already been laid down for this one.

I'm amazed that St. Mungo's has no way to check a patient for polyjuice potion...I would think Blaise would have thought of checking if it was the case...

But, then again that is the WW for you...half assed or no assed at all.

~Matt

 

Well, when he pushes he isn't pushing magic, he is using magic to move things around.

This new pulling power is totally different from pushing, as he doesn't actually move anything physical.

It appears to allow him to drain the magical energy around him to refill his core when he's running low on power.

 

Right a different application, but in essence he is only reversing his previous ability. What happens when you pull on something? Also, he only can grab magic when he is running low himself...

I guess I view the ability to manipulate something via pushing or pulling as similar, even if it is similar only in an inverse relationship. To each their own.

 

Who said it was polyjuice? Polyjuice wouldn't last for several weeks to begin with. As for the pulling thing, there is a difference, but there isn't a difference. He could probably pull an object towards himself if he wished, but he shifted it around into more of a metaphysical pull, thus negating the age-line and recharging his core at the same time.

 

:banana: hmm. I've yet to read any of Draco664's works, but reading this thread has piqued meh curiosity. I think I'll be checking Apprentice Potter.

 

You poor poor person. You have lived a sheltered life apparently.

 

Makes you wonder... if he can draw power out of spells, wards, etc... then what about PEOPLE? Will Harry start wearing a cloak with a high neck collar and adopt a faux Romanian accent?

One, Two, Three... three Avada Kadaveras....Mwuah ha ha ha.

 

His powers are more dementor-ish than Dracula.

 

Hmmm........it'd be great if he could pull power from incoming spells, too.

 

He does.. doesn't he? Wasn't he absorbing the spells Fudge&Co were casting at him? Or did I read that wrong?

 

no he was... thats why he was barely effected by some of the spells. I'm just wondering what would happen if he tried to suck magic out of the horcruxes...

 

I'm fairly sure its entirely new, rather than just a new version of the old "push". Its stated that Harry can't physically pull anything towards himself, that he's tried before, so it makes me think that pulling in ambient or directed magical energy into himself is not the same power. They may both be symptoms of a larger power/effect/ability Harry has, but Harry's never really been motivated to "pull" anything because he's usually been able to solve his problems with other means.

It might seem like a poor Deux ex Machina, but at the same time it fits in with the plot. Other times when he's been helf captive Harry's been able to keep talking until his captors made a mistake and he took advantage of that, but this time Fudge's stupidity fell short of crossing the age line for Harry or creating circumstances that allowed him access to a wand. In this case Fudge's only real fault was answering Harry's call by himself, and even in that case nobody (even Harry) could have anticipated the ability to wandlessly (if a wand would even help) absorb the magic of the age line.

 

I just read all three of the books yesterday, and I wanted to throw my two cents in on his pulling when compared to pushing theory.

I believe that they are the same, just used inversely.

When pushing, Harry pushes his own magic away from him.

When pulling, he pulls magic towards him.

The reason he can't move things with the pulling ability, is because he can't control the intent of a spell cast by someone else.

When he pushes, he wants things to move, and since he is releasing his own magic, he forms it to move stuff.

Pulling the magic out of a ward that drains magic, or blocks apparation, would not effect an object at all.

Furthermore, even if it did, I believe that he's reverting into raw magic anyway, which would take away the effect of pulling a banisher, blasting, or cutting curse.

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On that note, if Harry pulls magic towards him, and then pushes halfway through the process, would he push the original spell he was draining towards his target?

Say, for instance, he was being held under crucio during a time when he was magically drained. The curse needs a connection to hold. If he pulled the magic to fill himself up, and then pushed the connection towards the caster, would it cleave through the spell, or push the spell back at the caster?

 

Updated

New chapter out on fanfiction authors. It's pretty good, and apparently the Vatican is still in the plot as well.

I did like the Basilisk part too.

Good update, all in all.

 

Ah good stuff. It's been somewhat of a dry season past months, glad to see one returning atleast.

 

and the winner of the best updated hpff for April 2008 is....

I can't think of any other harry potter work close to this
( I have been skipping darnarian knight).
A nice update, and I think he does one of the best Rons....

Your mileage may vary...

 

Azkaban

Just realised that this fic should probably be moved to Azkaban section of library. Even if it fits well for independent Harry too

 

Nah, only 2 chapters of it. Even then, its just a plot device to make the world think he's dead.

 

Has Shezza even updated at all this month?