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Save HP Fanfic? Destroy the Ministry

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Terdwilicker, Mar 22, 2008.

  1. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    If I'm to interpret that as him attempting to guilt-trip us as he leaves DLP, then I'll just say that that was one very short, sexy, and hilarious stay.

    I applaud you, but if this is what you came up with, then you were at a loss a long time ago.
     
  2. Reyhkt

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    It's good that you acknowledge your idea is crap. Though I wonder what you mean when you said you wonder where HP will go. We have stories here at DLP that far outstrip your own.

    The fact that you think you can make a difference with your stupid idea is laughable. If you have a problem with the cliches at fanfiction.com, don't come up with a stupid premise to fix them.
     
  3. Snarf

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    Ho just got slapped.
     
  4. Korisovra

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    Actually, there are a few fics out there where the Ministry is overthrown by the HP generation, and they start an integration with the Muggle World. I can think of one off the top of my head that I need to go find now. I'll edit the link in after I drag my ass out of bed.
     
  5. Skeletaure

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    The OP is rather missing the point of the whole Blood ideology in the wizarding world. It is one that only a select few Purebloods believe in. Thus, the Muggleborns aren't going to be going off to form their own faction, because they don't see themselves as Muggleborns. They're just wizards like everyone else in their own view.

    Quote to back this up:

    http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=58

    Also, your view of the Ministry is heavily influenced by fanon. It seems to me that in canon it was only corrupt under Fudge's rule, and even then Muggleborn's weren't discriminated against - only magical creatures.
     
  6. Jenkins

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    I would have almost, almost accepted your idea until you said that. Never rag on an Aussie. We will kick your ass and anyone who associates with you.
     
  7. Iztiak

    Iztiak Prisoner DLP Supporter

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    Also, Terdwilicker... Can you read Denarian Knight, The Lie I've Lived, or any of the numerous stories by authors on DLP and honestly say that there aren't any more original stories?
     
  8. Mordac

    Mordac Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    I think you go way to the opposite side when you say muggleborns don't view themselves as such. Rita Skeeter, someone who never gave any indication of believing in blood prejudices, described Hermione as a Muggleborn in GoF.
    Besides, if only a few select purebloods believe in the blood supremacist ideology, then how come the Voldemort controlled ministry had such an easy time committing genocide against muggleborns? It was not because of fear in of Voldemort, because the whole point of taking over the ministry that way was for the populace not to suspect that Voldemort was controlling it behind the scenes.
     
  9. Skeletaure

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    They use the terms, yes, but only because others do. They don't actually believe that they are any different to the Purebloods.

    The same way that the Ministry followed Fudge against Dumbledore, the same way that it went after innocents to improve its image under Scrimgeour: the Ministry does what the Minister tells it to do.
     
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  10. watersoft12

    watersoft12 Looked into the void

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    Why is magic better than technology?
     
  11. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Off the top of my head:

    It's cheaper, quicker, cleaner, more efficient, doesn't require massive teams of people to invent or operate, no logistics involved, it can do everything technology can and more, it doesn't require a power source.

    Cheaper because a wand, which opens up all of magic (bar potions) to you, costs 7 Galleons, which is £35.

    Quicker because you can cause most effects with one or two words.

    More efficient because there is no waste involved.

    Not needing large teams to invent or operate is obvious: spells are invented by individuals, and are cast by individuals.

    No logistics is obvious.

    Not requiring a power source is obvious. Or, if it does require a power source then it is limitless, clean, renewable and it produced naturally by all wizards, so effecitvely it's requires no power source.

    That it can do anything technology and more is evident from the various spellswehave seen in the books.

    /me runs off before this devolves into another Wizards/Muggles thread.
     
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  12. Mordac

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    Not the ministry, the populace in general. Surely if there was really such a sentiment of muggleborns being equal to other wizards, there'd be a massive revolt...
     
  13. Skeletaure

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    Which there was. We call it the Battle of Hogwarts.
     
  14. Mordac

    Mordac Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Too little, too late.
    Besides, that only happened when Voldemort revealed himself as the regime head, so muggleborns weren't the focal point--the whole society was watching them suffering genocide for almost a year.
     
  15. Solomon

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    This one is not always true of Technology. As I'm sure you realize, quite a lot of technology is invented by single people (or small amounts of people working together) and operated by the individual. Manufacturing tends to require mass amount of people, though, I agree; unless it's fully automated, I guess.
     
  16. deathinapinkboa

    deathinapinkboa Minister of Magic

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    Wizards are better then Muggles, they just are. They can do magic.

    The only thing muggles have going for them is population, but this is a big factor in their favor. However, magic is pretty indesputably superior to technology.
     
  17. Mordac

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    In the sense that Michael Jordan is better than King County High School's reserve players, sure.
     
  18. Solomon

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    I was not debating that much. I was just pointing out a flaw in Taure's argument.
     
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