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Code Geass

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by Paravon, Aug 4, 2007.

  1. ramadden13

    ramadden13 Fifth Year

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    Just a random note, Rollo's Nightmare Frame is called "Vincent" and it is a mass produced Nightmare Frame that was designed after Lancelot. I'm also guessing that not all Vincent models can move like Rollo did. I think his speed was directly related to his Geass. It's possible that his Geass allows him to warp himself and his Nightmare Frame, which would be an incredibly dangerous ability. It would also be the first Geass that would directly affect the physical world. Up to now all the Geass have inflitrated the brain, but, if I'm right, Rollo's Geass can actually transport physical matter.
     
  2. JohnThePyro

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    My thoughts exactly on the whole "gundam" thing, when I saw the opening sequence I couldn't help but be reminded of those old Saturday morning cartoons.


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    It's quite possible his geass is also only affecting Rollo's brain also. It could just be speeding up his movements and the ability of his mind to keep up with the almost superhuman speed he's been presenting so far.
     
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  3. ramadden13

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    The Gundam influence on Season 2 actually goes even farther than that. Two of the new Nightmare Frames look very much like Gundams from Gundam 00, Sunrise's other series. The new Tristan Model is an arial model that can transform just like Gundam 00's Kyrios, and the new Mordred Nightmare Frame has similar weapons and stature to Virtue from Gundam 00.

    I'm really hoping though that the only reason Rollo could move like that on Vincent was because of his Geass. I like your idea that he may not actually be warping, but that his Geass can inhance his own reaction time and that he can move faster because he can process information faster and use the frames to their full potential. Either way I'm hoping it's just him.
     
  4. Chime

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    Cornelia is probably indisposed, dead or not, she's out of comission by injury or grief. Recall, everyone was confused when that guy said "princess".

    Rollo looks interesting... but yaoi fangirls? Please tell me the writers aren't seriously catering to that niche.

    Oh, and Rollo had a delay after each teleport. I don't know if he was just overconfident, but he had multiple opporutinities to attack Zero, but instead he just stood there and waited for Kallen/Urabe to get into position. If his geass does give him teleportation, it must have a cooldown or heavy negative effect, otherwise... well, he could really abuse his power. Like teleport into Lulu's cockpit?
     
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  5. ForsakenOne

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    I can imagine Leleuch using the geass on himself to forge false memories to get out of the situation, he remind me so much of the Main character in Death Note. Wonder what happened to Nunnaly.
     
  6. ramadden13

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    As far as we know Nunnally was kidnapped by V.V., who probably gave the Emperor and maybe Rollo their Geass. The memory bit was cleared up as it was revealed in episode 2 of R2 that the Emperor modified Lelouch's memories. It is also impossible for Lelouch to use the Geass on himself now as he has already did so when going against Mao.

    Rollo is definitely intruiging and will probably be a mystery for a while. Maybe it's my desire for this not to become Gundam, but I'll stick to my theory about Rollo's Geass.
     
  7. JohnThePyro

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    Maybe I'm easily fooled, but judging by what the creator said and how Rollo ended up at the Chinese embassy, I think he'll probably be joining Zero soon enough.
     
  8. Xenon

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    I'm pretty relieved after seeing R2 02. R2 01's 'O hay, last season didn't happen. Oh wait, it did! LOL amnesia' was starting to make me lose faith in the series. No Mental Elevators yet, but at least we got a teaser with The Sword of Akasha. I'm probably going to hate R2's Suzaku much less, as long as he doesn't end up reverting to his Season One personality, although thats probably just wishful thinking on my part. So far I've enjoyed Lelouche's interaction with Kallen, and the other black knights, but the repeating scenes are getting a little old. Copying Season One's 'I order you to kill yourselves', yet another exploding tower, and the new declaration of the United States of Japan. Although we might get some interesting battle scenes out of the last one, assuming Rollo joins Lelouch soon, and doesn't shut everything down before it gets off the ground.


    I'm disinclined to believe Rollo's power its some for of teleportation, considering the way that the damage to Urabe and Kallen's Knightmares appeared after Rollo disappeared. Also based on the animation, I'm not inclined to believe his power has anything to do with speed(weather it be his Geass increasing Vincent's speed, increasing his perception of time to 'over clock' Vincent, or even just a feature on the Knightmare, having nothing to do with his Geass), as there weren't enough 'special effects' to demonstrate the insane movement speed it would require. I believe his Geass decreases everyone else's reaction time, or even directly effects time itself. Although, I have to admit, Nunnally's Geass makes almost any explanation plausible. Even if it isn't Rebellion canon, I still believe it shows that there are few restrictions on the possible power of a Geass.
     
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  9. ramadden13

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    I like your theory on Rollo's Geass affecting everyone else's reaction time. However, Mao is the only Geass user to not have to directly look his target in the eye to use his Geass. How could Rollo affect multiple people that he can't make eye contact with? I'm more inclined to believe in your second theory, that he affects time itself, although I'm not sure exactly how.

    I'm also guessing Rollo joins Lelouch from what I've heard, but I'm not sure exactly how they are going to get to that point as Rollo seems to want to kill Zero at this point. R2 03 will definitely be interesting.
     
  10. Xenon

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    In Rebellion canon he is the only Geass user to be confirmed to not need eye contact. If the Emperor's Geass also allows him to talk to the dead(instead of being one of the Sword of Ahaka's effects, or just being crazy) that brings the number of canon users up to two. Add in Nightmare!Nannully's overpowered Geass; the ability to read the lines of the future(more precognition than manipulation, but it shows a Geass power of at least capable of interacting with time) and her contract with Nemo(Twin Loli Gattai: Invincible Demon Instrument Mark Nemo!), this brings the number up to a possible total of three, not including Rollo. If Nightmare!Zero is indeed Lelouch, then his regenerative ability would bring it to four. If we assume that Nightmare (despite being an alternate universe) sets the standard, Geass doesn't even have to be an ocular ability. But the possibility does exist that the 'rules' laid down by Nightmare won't be followed in Rebellion.

    Mao is however the only Geass user shown to affect multiple targets simultaneously, and without eye contact, despite it being a passive ability. Or did it merely get stuck in the on position like Lelouch's at the end of season one? A problem that inexplicably solved itself after his Geass induced amnesia =_= . I'll just chock it up as one of those things, like Euphemia successfully resisting the Geass because she lurves Suzaku.

    Edit: Finished reading some translation of NoN Ch3, corrected NoN info.
     
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  11. ramadden13

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    Good point, the Nightmare-verse does give us some examples of non-occular Geass (Nightmare!Nunnally PWNS!). I'd like to believe that the Emperor is not crazy, but I'm not sure how his Geass can modify memories and allow him to talk to the dead. At this point I'm more inclined to believe that the talking to dead Clovis was either the Sword or the Thought Elevator in action, but it could be another use of his Geass. At this point everything is speculation though. We'll just have to wait for more episodes.
     
  12. JohnThePyro

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    Rollo wants to kill Zero, not Lelouch whom he may or may not believe is his brother.

    Also, when did Nunally get a geass? I can't believe I would have missed that :O. And what was her ability?
     
  13. Xenon

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    It's an alternate universe Code Geass manga, titled Nightmare of Nannully. Nannully smites Elevens and Britannian's alike with the Fury of a Naked Blind Crippled Loli Goddess Strapped in Mecha. Mostly, its just an excuse for Nannully fan service, but its still pretty good. Only two chapters are scanslated that I know of.
     
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    We were discussing a spin-off called Nightmare of Nunnally. In Nightmare, Nunally was the one in Shinjuku Ghetto and finds a doll which grants her a Geass. Nunally's Geass is complete pwnage. She can see into the future, which lets her read enemy moves and counter them, gets a new body which allows her to see and walk, and gets a Nightmare Frame called "Mark Nemo." Nunally uses Mark Nemo to completely wipe out Clovis' forces all by herself in Nightmare.
     
  15. JohnThePyro

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    Huh...So Gundam with super-duper-future powers basically?
     
  16. ramadden13

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    Mhm, except the protagonist is a blind, paralyzed girl who can use her Geass to go kick-ass and vent anger for being blind and crippled. Poor Orange-kun gets his ass handed to him by Nunnally in Mark Nemo.
     
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    Was anyone else getting the feeling that Lelouch would somehow take Rollo's geass (Itachi vs Sasuke style)? After all Rollo's geass is in his right eye, and Zero is claiming he will need even more power to beat his father. It just seems to be heading in that direction. Did anyone else notice this?
     
  18. Mindless

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    Hmmm. I'm thinking no. The show's creators said that Rollo, who has the most unfortunate name since Sharmonica (Who is a real person), would work with Lelouch. Geass-stealing is way out there. On a side note, has anyone else noticed that Lelouch's Geass seems to be under a semblance of control? Why wasn't he unwittingly Geass-ing people when he had no memories?
     
  19. Koalas

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    Well Rollo did say at the end of episode 2 that he's not sure who he's working for, could be in his year long under-cover work he's started to have doubts about the HBE. Of course he immediatly follows this up with saying he's going to kill Zero so obviously his doubts are not enough to act upon yet. Perhaps revealing Lelouch as Zero will be enough to tip the scales.

    On the subject of Lelouch's Geass, his memories being overidden somehow caused the deactivation of his Geass ( :confused: ). What's more curious to me is when he Geassed the Knightmare pilot into giving up his Knightmare. CC said something along the lines of 'I thought your Geass only worked if you looked directly in their eyes.' To which Lelouch replied 'That's troubling coming from an immortal witch.' Is this implying something? Or is my memory of a lower quality sub simply screwed?
     
  20. Mindless

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    Your sub was different from mine. Mine had this:

    CC: "Impressive for someone who's Geass only works when you look directly into their eyes."

    Lelouch: " I don't want to hear that from an eternally young and immortal witch."
     
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