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George's ear and Hermione's tits

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BJH, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. BJH

    BJH First Year

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    According to canon, injuries caused by Dark curses can not be fully healed, or at least the damage caused can not be undone. This is why Harry's scar could not be removed. This is why Mad-Eye is so horribly scarred. This is why George's ear, cursed off by Snape, could not be regrown.

    So, back in the DoM, Hermione is struck across the chest and badly injured by some sort of curse thrown by Dolohov. It causes tremendous injury that, luckily, isn't fatal. She is forced to take a regimen of Potions for several days to heal the damage done and she is very lucky that Dolohov was muted and thusly couldn't throw the curse at full strength or she would be dead. George's damage was healed in a matter of hours or less so we have some sort of canon guage as to the severity of Hermione's injuries. I would assume that this is a very dark curse indeed.

    So, what sort of scarring do you think she has? A few fanfics have mentioned this but only rarely is she not brought back to full feminine beauty somewhere. How do you think a girl like Hermione would react to having such an area of her body disfigured by a scar? How would Ron react, could he deal with it and still love her?

    BJH
     
  2. Nukular Winter

    Nukular Winter The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    Good point.

    If you can't heal wounds inflicted by dark magic, then it's reasonable to assume that she has scarring, and that it's probably gross.

    Of all the tits I've ever encountered, the only "bad" set belonged to a girl who'd had breast reduction surgery; apparently she went from some ungodly milk-cow udder size--like 36EE--down to a C cup. She had 1/4" vertical scar on each boob that ran from the nipple all the way down to her torso, and it was *disgusting*.

    I could only bang her with her shirt on or from behind, and I couldn't tell her that it was because her boobs grossed me out.
     
  3. eXcalite

    eXcalite Seventh Year

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    I'm feeling personally offended here seeing as my girlfriend has undergone the same surgery since it can be pretty painfull to have such big breasts and has scars too, albeit nothing as gross as you described.

    Still I feel obliged to tell you to fuck off.

    p.s Don't take this to personal. I just can't stand people who talk about women like that. Must be me reading to much Dresden...
     
  4. Nukular Winter

    Nukular Winter The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    Awesome. It might be a matter of taste (like the "trimmed vs. shaved" debate), but I happen to prefer my titties when they're free of scars... and big. And attached to a teenager.

    Anyway, don't be such a girl. If scar tissue is what does it for you, then it's not for me to say that you're a twisted pervert.

    /Pervert. :)
     
  5. The Fine Balance

    The Fine Balance Headmaster

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    It messed up the internal organs, if I remember correctly. You don't always need to have a surface mark when the innards are messed up. And also, the surface heals far more easily. And there is nothing that says that if the innards are fucked by a strike, the surface is also equivalently fucked. A friend of mine got internal injury and the only external evidence was a deep blush that remained for a couple of weeks.

    But anyways, nothing says that see can't have a scar. It's just not fact.
     
  6. eXcalite

    eXcalite Seventh Year

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    Aww you know I didn't mean it like that. Now you made me a pervert. Ofcourse I prefer unblemished bodies to scarred mutiliations but I can live with a few scars.
     
  7. nonjon

    nonjon Alumni Retired Staff

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    Don't think of Hermione's tits as scarred. They're merely ribbed for your pleasure.

    Freckles, on the other hand, are little drops of cancer.
     
  8. Nukular Winter

    Nukular Winter The Chosen One DLP Supporter

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    More like speed bumps...
     
  9. Kardikek

    Kardikek Groundskeeper

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    Sure it was the titties that got hit? I've always imagined it being like:

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Mordecai

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    It never says that there was any surface effect caused by the curse, it could have only caused internal injuries, like a crushing curse or something...
     
  11. Mordac

    Mordac Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    IIRC, the lexicon mentions Dolohov's curse caused only internal damage.
     
  12. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

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    Same. I also got the feeling that it wasn't even that extensive since he'd been silenced before getting the spell out. Then again, it's not like Rowling would write about Hermione's post-curse problems, unless " I"m going to the library" is code for "I'm shitting bricks due to my permanent irritable bowel syndrome".
     
  13. Warlocke

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    Ah, the ever-useful Lexicon. That guy should write an actual HP reference book or something... :rolleyes:

    Lulz.
     
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  14. The Doctor

    The Doctor Unspeakable

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    Damn, beat me to it.:p
     
  15. Demons In The Night

    Demons In The Night Chief Warlock

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    I've actually read a few fics where Hermione has a big scar from Dolohov's curse, but I can't remember what the titles were or what they were about.
     
  16. Boo

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    Harry Potter and the Redemption of the Black Sisters


     
  17. enembee

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    If the spell had cut her, wouldn't she have been bleeding in the DoM, requiring someone to maybe close the wound?

    It never mentioned blood or a cut or anyone performing any sort of first aid on her, iirc.

    Perhaps nobody likes her really. Fucking know it all.
     
  18. Boo

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    The Order would have seen her when they came. Might be what took Dumbledore so long after the rest of the Order came. Had to heal a student.
     
  19. Warlocke

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    I am of the strong opinion that the curse Hermione was struck with left no external mark.

    Harry and Neville both hovered over her looking for signs of life and it was never mentioned that her clothing was damaged or that she was bleeding. Considering how frightened Harry was that she was dead or dying, if she had been bleeding, he would have either tried to stop it, or lamented that he didn't know how to stop it.

    On the other hand, Neville had just gotten his nose bloodied and JKR repeatedly mentioned the tons of blood pouring out of him every chance she got. In fact, she was pretty thorough about describing everyone's injuries. That being the case, if Hermione had been bleeding, JKR would have mentioned it.

    Another thing to note is that Harry was struck by the same curse that hit Hermione. When she was hit, she was unshielded and the caster was silenced. This caused the spell to be weaker than usual.

    Whatever these reduced effects were, they rendered her unconscious, caused a lingering soreness that was aggravated by movement, and caused her to be on a regimen of ten potions a day until her recovery. We learn the latter two details in the opening scene of chapter 38, which took place in the hospital wing. It sounds like whatever it did caused internal injuries.

    When Harry was struck by the spell, the caster was not silenced, but Harry brought up a Protego shield in time to block it. Some of the curse still got through and hit his face, the effect was described as feeling like a blunt knife streaking across his face and the force of it knocked him sideways. We are never told that it left a mark on him or made him bleed, despite the fact that he felt it.

    I take all of this to mean that, regardless of what the spell's intended effects are, the diminished versions of it that Harry and Hermione are hit with do not cause external wounds. So Hermione would have no scar.

    If a fanfic plot depends on Hermione having a scar from it, it's not a big deal to mess with canon and give her one. It's also entirely reasonable, given the apparent internal damage the spell causes, to have it cause other internal problems (weakened heart, reduced fertility, permanent irritable bowel syndrome, twisted colon, ruptured spleen/kidney...), like in Redemption of the Black Sisters, if you want that to be part of your story.

    It's quite possible that the spell is specifically supposed to damage internal organs. It may have been something that is supposed to damage the heart until it can no longer function, and she only survived because he had to cast it silenced. It could have left her with internal bleeding, bruised heart, damaged pericardium, etc.
     
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  20. Skeletaure

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    You're forgetting something: in HBP, Snape was able to heal the effect of the Sectumsempra curse that Harry used on Malfoy - the same curse that was used to cut George's ear off.

    Thus, we can surmise that with the correct counter-curse, Dark magic can indeed be healed. Apparently Snape never shared the counter to Sectumempra, so no-one could repair George's ear. Dolohov's curse, however, may be more common/well-known, so Hermione may have been able to be healed completely - which indeed seems to be the case.
     
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