Contrary to Sakura, who as of this moment has no redeeming qualities (but one major damning one).

 

Hinata is a fangirl... I think it is hypocritical that you'd hate Ginny when Hinata is even worse then her. I don't see how that work's. Sakura, is determined to get stronger, she is the only one in my opinion that is showing character development so far.

 

For future record, I hate Sakura too. I am a firm supporter of Naru/Anko

 

uh, no. she's not. She genuinely LIKES Naruto. She admires him not because he's cool, or has money, or is the heir of a prestigious clan, she likes him for his character, his confidence and unwavering will! She's not shallow like Sakura was, which to me is the basic essence of a fangirl. Hinata didn't ignore her team mates for her crush, which is more than i can say for Sakura.

EDIT: And Ginny, who only like Harry because he was the Hero, Prince Charming, etc.

lol, what a statement! I can ignore the part about character development since Kishi's a 'tard. But are you telling me Sakura is more determined than Hinata to get stronger? Hinata, who created her own jutsu? Hinata, who learn a bit nature manipulation before any of the Rookie 9? Hinata, who already studied a little bit of medicine and created medical cream all while Sakura was still chasing Sasuke?

Sakura became determined to get stronger when Sasuke left. Hinata's has strived to prove herself to the world before being a genin. yeah, i see how Sakura's more determined...

i know all this is before the time skip, but with how fucked up and convoluted post skip is (with the irritating focus on the Uchiha), you can't really pull anything from it.

 

It was in the Forest of Death, actually, but your point remains valid.

 

1) Created her own jutsu was in the filler episodes, hence not canon.

2) No evidence of her learning any nature manipulation before any of the rookies. All we know about her abilites are that she knows the Jyuuken, can use the Byakugan and knows some things about medicine.

3) Hinata is a stalker. She hides behind poles and follows Naruto around like a over eager puppy. I think people misunderstand Hinata's character. People tends to ignore that what she feels for Naruto isn't love, but really a strong sense of admiration. With some development that can turn to love.

Shit, got to go back to school.

 

Hinata is a shit character. Period. She's the japanese stereotype character that is in just about every fucking manga on earth.

Sakura is that fucking annoying bitch in EVERY shonen manga who, despite not being near the level of the main character, can intimidate him to hell. This allows the manga-ka to not be sexist, and appeal to all those sub/beta guys out there who read their manga at the same time.

Canon-wise I'd prefer Naruto/Sakura. Sakura gotten a bit stronger, though she's still boring as shit.

Fanon-wise, I'd prefer anyone but Hinata and Sakura. Hinata is Naruto's Ginny, and Sakura is Naruto's Hermione.

Wait... does that make Ron Sasuke? Or is Sasuke Harry?

Gah.

 

that, my friend, is a matter of opinion since I can say it's canon to the anime but not to the manga by keeping both separate...but, meh. it's a moot point. the nature manipulation occur in the same episode with her own original jutsu, the Bijou arc.

and what is Sakura?

yeah, when most people compare her to Sakura AND Ginny, they make that critical mistake. I've already stated that she likes his character, maybe has a crush on him at best.

lol, same here...

not stereotype, more like archetype. she has the basic characteristic has the of the one who could achieve but lacks confidence and self esteem. IMO, i blame Kishi for fucking her up. I was hoping by the time skip she would have become more confident in herself but it's still the same shit post time skip.

kinda like a mutant Chi-chi/Bulma fusion...

lol, Ron would be Naruto cuz they eat alot, lack common sense and apparently get the girl reserved for the "main" character, Harry/Sasuke.

 

Hinata crushes on fact that Naruto never gives up. She looks to be like him and that is how the crush came to be.

I know what you are going to say "Isn't that a good thing. Well to answer your question...No. She admires him, love him...No. Maybe it can develop if they actually went out (Pray it doesn't happen).

I think that is shallow. Because you can admire a person aswell as be their friend. She blushes and faints constantly. She is a goddamn stalker. Admire him from far and elude yourself into thinking your in love with him. Excuse me, if this was the real world she would get a restraining order.

And I'm pretty sure that Ginny liked Harry genuinly, so your point is void.

Notice how you only come up with filler answer's. If that was the case then Ino is Sakura's apprentice.

It is called character development, since you are on DLP I'm pretty sure you heard of it.

Unfortunatly, I can do as such. Unless you decide to follow fanon. And seeing as Hinata has not grown up, I can honestly say she is a shitty character with an annoying habit of fainting, making her even worse than Ginny.

There was no nature manipulation, she was just useing her taijutsu on water.

Sakura used to be an annoying fangirl that only asked for date's and didn't follow Saske around wile hiding. Apparently being a Hyuuga doesn't do much for Hinata, Sakura seem's to have more dignity.

Most people do that I know, but why? The people that do as such tend to be Hinata fan-girl's and boy's. Naru/Hina would suck just as much as HP/GW as it would hit us out of no where just like in HBP.

To anyone who actually think's for a bit about there character's Ginny and Hinata are similar, Hinata's worse as Ginny never stalked Harry....

That is your Hinata fanboy-ism talking . Yes, if she grew up I would not have minded her that much the same way I don't really mind Ginny. Kishi is the creator of Naruto, he s fucking everyone up. The same shit post timeskip is exactly why I dislike, no despise Naru/Hina.

She is mostly like Chi-Chi, although since she is more than comic relief I tend to think of hr as a little better.

All this time you are arguing with me that Hinata is not a fangirl and Sakura apperantly is...even now. But the truth of the matter is that she is getting character developmet while Hinata get's non.

What really does my head in is the fact Naru/Hina fan's will alway's argue that Hinata isnot a fangirl...I cal that rejecting the truth.

 

Sakura is/was a fangirl for Sasuke. We don't have any evidence of stalking like Hinata does.

Problem with that is that while you consider it canon it still isn't canon. What ever happens in the filler has no impact on the actual story. The odds of Hinata using that technique of hers in the manga or future anime episodes is going to be pretty rare.

 

Hinata's a shy person. you think that because she lacks courage to tell a boy something so intimate to her, she's shallow? and please, in the REAL world, there are PLENTY of girls who like guys from afar yet lack the courage to tell him so. not everyone can reach your standard of boldness.

i never said she loved him nor do i think she deludes herself into thinking she loves him. all she wants is to be able to tell him how much confidence and hope he instilled in her just by being his stubborn self. that's it. not a declaration of love like Sakura who constantly yells "We meant to be together forever!!!!11!!" and "True love prevails" esp. in her own mind.

So the only person I know who actually deludes herself into love is Sakura who tells Sasuke that she loves him just so he doesn't leave Konoha. Now, that's shallow.

My beef with Ginny is that she came out of nowhere, other than that she's a normal teenage girl. I'm sure at some point she was heavily infatuated with the BWL, stopped liking the BWL and started liking the real Harry Potter. That's the reason why I think she comparable to Sakura, who follows the same archetype, and not Hinata, who has seen the real Naruto from the beginning .

if that's the case, then so be it.

i'm confused. seriously, was that a personal attack?

ah yes, Ginny who refused to talk to Harry in Book 2, who what, dipped her elbow in butter, and acted like a "fangirl worshiping her hero"? and also ran away from Harry? oh, Hinata is so much worse...

yes, annoying some one who doesn't want you around, who doesn't even like you, who ignores you is certainly more dignifying than not having the balls to tell some one you like them.

I agree that it would be a big drawback if it came out of nowhere and that's where I blame Kishi. He's not focusing on her enough!

hmm, i'm thinking.... the only way Ginny and Hinata are similar is that they, at some point were shy around the main character, and liked the main character. That's it. Ginny is way more similar to Sakura because they are the same damn literary archetype! hell, their characteristics is even the same. For example, when Naruto makes fun of Sasuke, Sakura screams at him and occasionally bashes his head. the same thing occurred with Ginny. In Book 2, when Draco makes fun of Harry, Ginny immediately jumps to his defense. Both are popular, gutsy/tough, tomboyish, and vindicative when angry (one hits hard, the use Bat Bogey Hex).

lol, proud to be a fanboy! at least we agree on this and the lack of change post-time skip.

no, don't misinterpret my desires for what i'm actually saying. Pre-time skip, Hinata barely fitted the requirement for a fangirl while Sakura overplayed the role. Post-time skip, Hinata hasn't really changed (because of no character development), while Sakura stopped being a fangirl.

anyway call it what you want, I still see them as a better couple than Naru/Sasu.

and in the case that she does?

 

Then so be it. Then that means the manga will become Naru/Hinata since that is what the fillers seemed to be leaning toward. I'm all for Naru/Hinata, as long as Kishi spends a reasonable amount of time building up that relationship. No Goku/Chichi or Harry/Ginny out of no where romances.

 

here, here! lol, what i meant was, if she used the move in the manga does that mean the filler will be counted as canon?

 

Dunno, I would say that it would mean that parts of the fillers would be canon.

Now, while I could tolerate a canon Naru/Hina, I can't stand fanon. Which is why I am a firm supporter of Naruto/Anko :banana:

 

I'm mostly trying to stay out of this, but this...what the hell? Re-read his comment, please. All he was saying there, is that he was hoping Kishimoto didn't fail as a mangaka.

Even so, Kishimoto did fail. There's a very slim chance that he can save his manga from being utter failure, but it's so small it's ridiculous.

Also, no Naru/Saku. I cannot stand that pairing, canon or fanon. As far as I see it, considering who Sakura is, Naru/Saku is instant-fail.

 

You know what I just realized? The Naruto Manga discussion on this site is more active than the one at http://z6.invisionfree.com/A_Demons_Desire/

What's annoying about that is that site is a Naruto forum run by members from here and this site gets more Naruto discussion than that one. So, I am done arguing anything here. If you wanna continue this riveting Naruto/Hinata debate I will be at ADD or hanging around ADD irc.

 

Almost dead forum is almost dead. They should have just begged for a separate section here... they wouldn't have gotten it, I suppose, but ADD hasn't really turned out well. The core members are more into DLP than ADD, which is the main problem. It has no real core, like the one that maintains and contributes to DLP.

 

That and lack of advertising. For some reason some of the authors on the site have this thing against mentioning the site in an author's note. Though that may be a good thing considering the amount of fangirls and unwanted fans within the fandom.

 

I guess I'll join...You know that is 3rd forum I have joined this month.

Kishi's manga already is fail, I only want to see how it end's now.

 

...Is there even a point of arguing

Really, all i know is, there is no point in arguing and calling kishi a tard or an idiot for fucking the manga up. Because, allot of authors fuck up there manga so no one is perfect.