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Veela talk

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Knox, Jun 23, 2008.

  1. afrojack

    afrojack Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Exactly. Just like one is either a wizard or is not, there are still titles around like half-blood, pureblood, etc. I assume the same would apply to Veela.
     
  2. Banner

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    Ah, but those titles are merely societal labels, and do not necessarily reflect genetic accuracy. Consider all the wars, civil wars, murders, kidnappings, and grab-the-kids-and-run-for-the-border confusions. Records are lost or destroyed, and people deliberately separate themselves from their bloodlines. Remember the Black family tree - if a "pureblood" family threw a squib baby, then the baby would be LUCKY if his parents abandoned him on the church steps.

    I can see at least half a dozen easy scenarios that a pureblood squib would never know he could be a carrier.
     
  3. Grubdubdub

    Grubdubdub Supreme Mugwump

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    Full Veela implies there's something else. My theory is that a full Veela is both A-sexual and Heterosexual.


    As you have mentioned before giants and goblins, we know from Hagrid and Madam Maxim that that doesn't work. About goblins... that's just disturbing.

    That's just reeks from HeirOfEverythingThatMoves!Harry.
     
  4. Banner

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    A) Half-Giants aren't fertile? I don't remember THAT issue being addressed in any of the books. Or do you mean that Giant magic isn't inherited? That wasn't what I meant at all. I don't know if pure Giants even have the ability to consciously use magic. They don't seem all that sapient to me: not much more intelligent than an ape. I figure that Hagrid and Olympe get their wand abilities from their human ancestor.

    B) HeirOfEverythingThatMoves!Harry?
    I was actually going for "political upheaval upon the Big Reveal" shits and giggles.
     
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  5. Grubdubdub

    Grubdubdub Supreme Mugwump

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    Stop mocking me. Harry Potter is serious shit. BTW, if you make a "political upheaval upon the Big Reveal" story, make sure that Voldemort admits he's a half-blood and then say it's a mistake. Because everything is better than a RicherThanBillGates!Harry story, where he got a castle [probably Camelot].
     
  6. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Which would be the reason why 'full' is never used in the books, to my knowledge. There are only Veela. Here's the quote, from GoF:

    That is all we know for sure. Once again:

    The problem we face with the Veelas is, that in contrast to Goblins, Giants or other races, there is not a single male Veela in the books. On the other hand, there are still beings called Veela (at the World-Cup), that one would label 'full' (but no one does, that's just for the sake of clarification in my post); and they have to come from somewhere.

    So, instead of inventing what is not there, I suggested that there are only 'full' Veela -- namely, Veela. Without any prefix, as it is the books. Fleur is just as much Veela as the Veela at the World-Cup, they are all Veela.

    That removes the problem nicely, and doesn't contradict Canon (I'm reasonably sure of that).

    And how that theory works in practice is on the page before.
     
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  7. deathinapinkboa

    deathinapinkboa Minister of Magic

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    Not only do we never encounter any male Veela, but we also are never presented with female Goblins. Perhaps Veela birth Goblin sons and Veela daughters when impregnated by Goblins.
     
  8. Grubdubdub

    Grubdubdub Supreme Mugwump

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    You have just ruined H/F for me. Good job.
     
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    Griphook/Fleur . Icky
    Dobby/Olympe . Just no
    Greyback/Kreacher - they deserve each other, but still nasty.
    Bane/Pettigrew ... No, wait - that has possibilites!
     
  10. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

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    Hey, if sticking it to a Veela on a regular basis means risking goblin babies, I'll gladly participate in creating my own goblin nation.
     
  11. Grubdubdub

    Grubdubdub Supreme Mugwump

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    Imagine that green head coming out of her pussy. Lovely.
     
  12. Gullible

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    Fuck you guys. :(
     
  13. Tehan

    Tehan Avatar of Khorne DLP Supporter

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    Guys, guys, you're looking at this all wrong. The Delacour family is fully human, they've just got a habit of taking Veela harems. Therefore, the hair is from one of her grandmother's pet Veela.

    Fleur's Veela aura is due to some fledgling psychic ability waking up and screaming 'DUDE! SHE'S GOT A HAREM OF VEELA!'
     
  14. Knox

    Knox The Last Remnant DLP Supporter

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    What if we take the “ Veela is similar to Muggle-born theory” And add that its more of a bloodline thing like Parseltounge, that not all inherit. For instance what if it needs a certain factor to be awoken, like another ability like legimancy and Occlumency so they can invade the persons mind and seduce them.



    “Her father is Frenchman who is unnamed but described in the books as being round and having a short black beard; her mother is a Half-Veela named Apolline Delacour, from whom Fleur and her younger sister, Gabrielle, inherited their silvery-blonde hair, pale eyes, good looks, and ability to entrance men.” Wikipedia article.


    There Half-blooded Veela.


    “Some wizards are the products of unions between humans and magical creatures of human intelligence. In wizard parlance, any creature with human intelligence, including humans, is called a "being". Known beings capable of breeding with humans include goblins, giants, and Veela. Prejudiced wizards (such as Umbridge) often use the insulting term half-breed to refer to mixed-species wizard. This term is also used on werewolves, and to creatures like merpeople and centaurs (who are pure bred within their sole species) because of their part-human/beast appearances” Wikipedia Article


    So maybe Veela are some wrong end of Magical Beastiality? Veela being a mix of hot woman and phoenix? Since they Hurl Fireballs around and are Avian.
     
  15. afrojack

    afrojack Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Eh, dunno about phoenixes, as they are portrayed as pretty benevolent in the books. Maybe a half-demon.
     
  16. deathinapinkboa

    deathinapinkboa Minister of Magic

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    Just because it's one Wikipedia doesn't make it true. It isn't true unless JKR herself wrote the entry. The idea that all Veela are utterly Veela is not disproved.

    The fact that Ron states he suspects Fluer of being part Veela in GoF is much better evidence, and still somewhat shakey.
     
  17. afrojack

    afrojack Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Ron's comment I think is coming from the understanding that Veela are similar to giants in that the blood can be diluted, but Giants, other than being huge, seem to have no magical capacity. If being a Veela didn't come with magical powers, I'd be inclined to agree.
     
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    No wai!! Just checked it, the article says:

    Her father is a Frenchman who is unnamed but described in the books as being round and having a short black beard; her mother, named Apolline Delacour, is the daughter of a Veela, from whom Fleur and her younger sister, Gabrielle, inherited their silvery-blonde hair, pale eyes, good looks, and ability to entrance men.

    o_O

    All the jokes about Goblins that I'd rather not read aside, I believe that Veela are a species of their own. There is no need to explain their abilities with crossbreeding.

    The comment from Ron -- well, it's certainly better than a Wiki-entry, but it's Ron. Normally, when Rowling wants to convey facts, she uses Hermione or Dumbledore for that. That was what I meant when I said 'all we know for sure' -- if Ron suspects something, we simply don't. He suspected also that he had to wrestle a Troll in the Sorting Ceremony, and he knows that all Slytherins are evil, slimy gits.
     
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  19. Knox

    Knox The Last Remnant DLP Supporter

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    Hey the Bestiality theory does hold water, I mean the wizarding world seems to have no morals, Love potions, Crucio, Impero, Avada Kedavra, Polyjuice, Draught of living death, and much more. whats to stop a few freaks from humping a bird?
     
  20. Grubdubdub

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    We have a Harry/Hedwig story in the mature section, if you are interested in that kind of stuff. Though she is in human form :(
     
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