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Complete A Second Chance at Life Series by Miranda Flairgold - T/M

Discussion in 'Almost Recommended' started by ChuckDaTruck, Aug 3, 2005.

  1. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    Rofl, Lincos. That's been one of my main problems of the story, he loses the name Harry Potter and becomes Rakhesh Asmodaeus. Forever.
     
  2. uriel

    uriel Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    And spends a great deal of time thinking about how he needs to 'Kill' Harry Potter.

    So far the reasoning has been pretty weak.. Basically everyone knows Rahkesh = Harry, so it's hard to understand why it needs to be done, And why it has to be mentioned 4 times a chapter...
     
  3. Mors

    Mors Denarii Host DLP Supporter

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    At the end of the story: after most of the Elves and vampires and Demons have been killed off, Rahkesh goes traitor and kills everybody left standing.

    Namach (dying)>> Why, Rahkesh? WHY?
    Rahkesh>> It's HARRY you faggot.
    Rahkesh>> I did it for the lulz.
     
  4. Erotic Adventures of S

    Erotic Adventures of S Denarii Host

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    Its canon that Harry hates how famous he is for no reason. Changing his identity gets away from that. I agree the name its self is gay but the idea behind it is not a bad one. Hell there are hundreds f stories where he changes his name. Usually to something even agyer like "James Black Evans" or some shit.
     
  5. Banner

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    Getting away from "Harry Potter" was also sheer survival at the beginning - Voldemort had put a contract out on his head, remember?

    "Apparently the reward is something amazing because the man mentioned that there were several others, he just got to me first"

    Ditching the name upon applying at a new school is just common sense.

    It's canon that Harry Potter hates the the way that he gets treated because he's famous, and most of the British Wizarding World doesn't look any farther than Name, Scar, Glasses before they feel they know him and own him. At first he sees this as a clean break, but temporary. At the beginning of the books, he didn't intend to become someone entirely different, but once he thought it through, he knew that if the paparazzi and sheeple treated him as their prized puppet/scape goat for surviving his parents's murder, then they would be orders of magnitude worse for his finally killing Voldemort.

    The only possible way to have a life other than as "The Golden Boy Who Saved Us All By Killing You-Know-Who" is to establish that life - completely separate and carefully prepared Right Then, and to make that life as real as possible in every detail.

    It didn't take long for the possibilities to show, however:

    That very first summer, before he left for Akren, he sees the younger Weasleys in Diagon Alley and he is irritated that they are obviously looking for him. He thinks they are clingy, and he dislikes their lack of independence. At the time that irritation is nothing more than a passing thought, but it is the first hint of a true personality characteristic.

    On the trail to Akren, he learns that incompetent people are a drag on the entire group. Tanya gets bitten by a poisonous plant, and has to be carried the rest of the way. The school culture continues this philosophy: personal survival and excellence is hindered by those who can't keep up.

    Early in his first year, Rahkesh realizes that his new friends are more mature, more interesting, and more worthy of respect than the group at Hogwarts. He gives his Hogwarts friends only passing thoughts: they seem weak now, and dependant on Harry's fame to add colour and importance to their lives.

    His first visit back to the Burrow highlights this. Molly tries to emotionally blackmail Harry into returning to Hogwarts and to becoming one of her family. She wants him to be a child and allow her to care for him. Ron, Ginny, and Hermione want to be near Harry (or the Harry they remember,) and are very clumsy in their efforts to discover his hiding place. The children are accustomed to thinking of themselves as part of "Harry's group," and aren't interested in independent adulthood.

    Rahkesh's goal is nothing less than complete independence. He likes being strong, smart, magically powerful, and dangerous. Harry spent nearly all his life being a victim in various ways. Rahkesh is going to be at the top of the food chain.
     
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  6. Pieman

    Pieman Seventh Year

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    I get the name change, it was a requirement if he didn't want to get hunted down. But why Rahkesh? I like the story, and support Asmodaeus, but Rahkesh is just annoying.

    But its better then James Black Evans.
     
  7. Oz

    Oz For Zombie. Moderator DLP Supporter

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    Not really. Why pick a name that stands out so much? Granted, to someone who knew of Harry's parents, It'd be easy to guess his identity from James Black Evans, but if they don't then the name won't stand out. Rahkesh Asmodaeus, however, is gonna raise a few eyebrows. Especialy as he doesn't look much like a Rahkesh. -_-'
     
  8. Lincos

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    I know there are Hundreds of stories where he changes his name..... and I don't read them. I want to read about Harry Potter, not someone else.

    If the story is good and I like it in next couple of chapters I'll probable just export it using my FFDownloader Tool and change All the 'Rahkesh's to 'Harry' using word or something.

    Which is what I'm doing in my head anyway.

    -Linc-

    And Banner, the only thing I got from what you said after reading it all was that you typed 'Colour' and not 'Color'.... I liked that. XD
     
  9. Perspicacity

    Perspicacity Destroyer of Worlds ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Jethro Jacob Jehosephat for the win.
     
  10. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

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    His first visit back to the Burrow emphasizes how horrible Flairgold is at characterization. Nothing more, nothing less. She twists characters to fit her needs, without any development in between. The fact that you're using that as an excuse is laughable.

    Without Ron, Harry would have never gotten past that chess set in Sorcerer's Stone. He would have never have been able to save Hermione from that troll. He also would have been locked away in his room all summer after Dobby fucked things up for him without Ron and the twins. Without him, they would have never thought of getting the basilisk fangs to kill the Horcruxes (I just know that people are going to bitch and moan about this one).

    ... and yeah, Ron didn't really do much else.

    Without Hermione he would have never have gotten past the part with the riddle in book 1. Without Hermione, he would have never have figured out that it was a Basilisk loose in the school. Without her he would have never have been able to save Sirius. Without her he would have been woefully unprepared for the Triwizard Tournament and probably would have been killed before he ever reached the Cup-turned-portkey. He would have been hopelessly lost in his search for Horcruxes as well.

    Without the help of his 5 friends in the DoM, he probably would have died within seconds. Not that they did anything but provide 5 different targets, but still.

    And you can't deny that Neville was a great help at the end of book 7.

    So fuck you and your love for butchered characterizations of otherwise loyal and intelligent characters. The best characterization of Ron and Hermione is in Draco664's trilogy, the worst characterization is in this story. Read that for an example of what they should act like.
     
  11. Blaise

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    Nah, s'gotta be pornstar names - ultimate cover for optimum incognituity :D

    @Oz:Fux you, Rahkesh goes across all racial and gender boundaries. Why, I just met a Chinese/Jamaican woman named Rakhesh McAnally the other day.
     
  12. Oz

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    A month and a half ago I was like a hundred posts ahead of you. :/
     
  13. Banner

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    @Sree: Think about the battle at the Department of Mysteries as written by JKR. Now think about a twenty-year-old Rahkesh going in with Silas, Daray, Alley, Daniel, and Rianae.

    Harry doesn't OWE Ron and Hermione anything. They were friends in high school, but few friendships survive long separations.

    College usually changes people tremendously. Harry sees himself as a former victim. Being a survivor is nothing to be ashamed of, but to take on Voldemort Harry has to be MUCH more than lucky.

    Through the Dursleys' abuse and neglect, and Dumbledore's manipulations, Harry Potter was reactive. He never bothered to prepare, or to consider consequences. He was accustomed to being on the defensive, and to being led around. Harry spent a lot of his life being helpless - what incredibly useful things did his guardians do to protect him from Skeeter? A minor child was slandered all over the country, and no one helped him at all.

    Throughout the series, most of his decisions sucked. The later books were all about whining and slacking and tantrums and sulking.

    JKR made it easy for him to be undisciplined. Harry Potter's life lessons went something like:
    1) studying gets you punished, and is boring besides
    2) people in power are perfectly willing to abuse their positions for personal gain or entertainment
    3) adults won't listen
    4) adults won't help
    5) the only people who can be trusted are the Weasley twins, Ron, Neville, Hermione, Luna, and Ginny
    6) don't bother planning ahead: someone else will do it for you
    7) the only thing Harry is good at is Quidditch

    Even Ginny just fell into his lap.
     
  14. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    Er. First off, Flairgold made everyone in her story ridiculously powerful -- the main characters at least. Thousands of years old Vampires, Thunderbird animagus form, etc. No shit they would have torn through the DE's with that power. But you just can't compare both works like that. JKR made the children have believable talents, with limitations on their abilities. Flairgold got rid of any and all restrictions, and just went wild. Hence, the phrase, a story for a 12-year-old fanboy.

    Minor children get slandered around all the time, if they're famous. That's normal

    Harry has faults. That's what makes him likable. He's a wizard, but he's human just like the rest of us. He isn't perfect, he isn't "sexy," he doesn't have a chiseled chest and wavy flowing hair. He doesn't always know the right thing to do, he doesn't have an incredibly powerful animagus form. He has messy hair, round glasses that went out of style in the 70s, a slightly skinny appearance, and wears clothing too big for him. He makes mistakes often, he has fits of rage like any other teenager, and he's nervous around girls that he has crushes on.

    He's not a Gary-Stu, like Rakhesh Asmodaeus is. Just the name should make the warning alarms in your head blast out with anger.
     
  15. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

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    Sree vs. Banner (and all ASCAL lovers, really): When JBern vs. Bio isn't funny enough.
     
  16. Banner

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    It's a superpowerful world - Our Hero is just making the grade in his peer group. I don't see a lot of imbalance. As for Harry's faults, well most of them are actually my hot buttons:
    reactionary instead of proactive
    sulky instead of disciplined
    goof-off rather than studious
    barely notices his weak spots and does nothing to repair them
    an emotional wreck

    If canon!Harry heard his aunt being tortured, what would he have done? Leaped into the room to save her? Assuming that he wasn't in his room with the door locked. I think that JKR was trying to go for an Everyman sort of hero, but she ended up with a worthless layabout. Based on McGonagall's remarks about the Auror program, the only way canon!Harry got in is by favoritism - and Ron is worse! Harry and Ron are athletic, and Harry has superior reflexes, but can you actually see either of them memorizing thousands of pages of legal code, evidence collection, criminal psychology, prisoners rights, and courtroom proceedure?

    The name was irritating at first, but I'm used to it now.
     
  17. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    No imbalance? Vampires being able to wipe the floor with Voldemort doesn't scream TOO POWERFUL to you? Was my question ever answered that was asked a while back? Voldemort traveled the world, associated with the darkest of wizards, yet he only knows the subjects taught in Hogwarts? And Soul Magic, the very thing he was searching for (immortality), was never learned?

    He would have jumped in the room to save his Aunt. He has a "saving people thing" after all. He did save Draco and Goyle in the RoR after Crabbe made that disaster with Fiendfyre, and Malfoy is one of his worst enemies. And yes, I can see both of them researching law. Because they did, in Prisoner of Azkaban while trying to save Buckbeak.

    Harry going after Sirius in the DoM isn't proactive enough for you? Creating the DA isn't? Leaving Hogwarts and searching for Horcruxes isn't proactive? Following Malfoy around all year in HBP to find out what he's up to is reactionary?

    I don't even see the point of this, we aren't even arguing the same thing. Every time I post, you don't even make a rebuttal, you just keep harping on the fact that canon Harry is weaker than RAKHESH ASMODAEUS. You didn't even say anything about my answer to your statement that Harry's friends are weak and holding him back. All you said was that they were his friends in high school, he didn't owe them anything, and he outgrew them. That's not a rebuttal, that's conveniently ignoring anything I said and rewording your previous statement.
     
  18. Lincos

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    Huh, this is getting stupid now. I just had to skip about four chapters of temporary time travel >_>
     
  19. Banner

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    @Lincos - don't skip that!
    It gets really important later on.
     
  20. pontfirebird73

    pontfirebird73 Third Year

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    I have reread this story a couple time and each time I ALWAYS skip that chachopyaro crap.

    Here is a summary

    meet hidden civilization, kill some locals, kill some demons, drink dragons blood to save a vamp which makes him indebted to you (vamp turns into a demon), do a few more bloodmagic sets and then go back to the present.
     
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