Because he's...Insane?

 

Also about the Gefron (?) Disrupter from my understanding it's just a modified version of the Sakuradite-stopper used to stop the Lancelot... in fact it's not even modified, it's just broadcasting the 'waves' instead of forcing them into a circular force field. So kind of a Deux ex machina, but more of a jack-of-all-trades-machine then an ass pull.

@Revan: While I'm sure Orange knew Lelouch was part of the royal family when was it said Orange knew he was Marianne's son?

 

There's a certain bizarre contradiction going on here in that everyone agrees that Ron being a master strategist because he's awesome at chess is fucking stupid, yet when it happens in Code Geass... it's okay?

... wut?

 

It is th other way around for Lelocuh. He is an awesome chessplayer because he is an awesome strategist. We see absolutely no canon evidence that Ron is good at strategizing. All we see with Ron is that he is good at chess and a useless friend betraying deuche.

 

lolwhat?

Lulu is good at chess because he's ridiculously fucking intelligent. Ron is good at chess because JKR needed to give him a talent to be randomly useful in the first book. Not even comparable.

Is Ron's talent even mentioned outside of PS?

 

Liked the episode, did not like the moves Lulu pulled

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Worst thing you can do for morale, tell your soldiers to kill unarmed children and women. Just the worst thing. He's going to lose control of the knights, and he's probably already lost the loyalty of his ace pilot with what Suzaku did. Lulu won the battle, but I think that in over all strategy this attack cost him much more than it gained.

 

This is where our agreement ends.

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Lelouch pulled some pretty harsh moves, which is terrible for unit morale, but losing Kallen's loyalty? Not likely. If anything, Suzaku's willingness to use refrain at the end there will reaffirm her loyalty to Zero. Besides, this is Kallen we're talking about. She will not, absolutely will not serve Britannia.

On that note, I look forward to seeing where this episode leads. I can definitely tell that Kallen will be freed soon...hell, she'll probably escape on her own with this opportunity.

 

Fuck it, I'm sick of writing spoiler tags. Anyone who reads past this can expect spoilers for the new CG episode.


I was thinking about that too, but I believe that this battle will have more far reaching consequences than you're thinking of. Think of it, even if Kallen does escape and returns to Lelou, she's going to know what happened to shirley. She may not believe it NOW, but once she hears about the unarmed civilians he had ordered killed, she will believe it. I don't think Kallen is going to join the Brits, I believe that she will get the loyalty of the black knights, and turn against Zero.

 

But isn't Refrain addictive? Force Kallen to work for Brittania inder threat of withheld drugs? But yeah, next episode looks great, going to reveal a lot of stuff is my prediction.

 

The thing is, that would require her to actually believe Suzaku, John. I don't see that happening. Yes, Shirley died, but I'm sure Lelouch will eloquently tell her who really killed Shirley, and she'll believe him.

Also, Kalas: I honestly can't see the Refrain ever even so much as touching Kallen. I see her Taking Suzaku down and escaping to the upgraded Guren. That's my prediction for Turn 15, at least.

 

It could go either way, I think. Kallen, with the effects of Refrain, the death of a friend, and Lelouch's commands to kill innocents she could easily do something stupid.

But in the end? She'll find out he didn't do it. Either she'll be glad she trusted him, or she'll wallow in grief for her weakness.

Great episode, by the way. Almost as good as the last one. Season 2 is a trainwreck just like season 1... but it's not bad.

 

You could be right obviously, I'm just putting myself in her place. You know lelouch is capable of making people commit suicide, you suspect he's done it before (with all the guards he's killed.), and someone who you would never ever expect to commit suicide did it while they were in close contact with Lelouch.

Add to that, that you escape and return to your army, only to find the troops doubting their leader because he made them slaughter children and unarmed civilians.

Is it really that hard of a stretch to see her not believing lelou when he tells her about rolo and turning against him?

 

The one thing you're overlooking is Zero himself, John. Yes, he's deceptive, but think of what Zero means to Kallen. In Kallen's mind, Zero is the fulfillment of her ideals. Because of Zero, they've come extremely far, they've managed to turn a simple terrorist cell into a real threat to Britannia. She wouldn't go against Zero, because if my interpretation of her feelings is correct, she needs Zero alive, well, and more importantly, working their cause.

 

I agree with Vigilante, there is no way Kallen can go against Zero, the one who displays everything the rebellion is about. He made her understand that they are at war and that for there to be peace he needs to destroy everything that is wrong. Besides, Leoluch is a manipulativa bastard and with the eraser it might be probable that he can recast Geass on any doubting soldier. After all as his mentor AD would say "it is for the greater good".

Wow I am really expecting the new episode, the whole "Lelouch, my son, it is time for redemption" can go so many ways. Imagine Leoluch restored to his title and working for the empire (impossible) or finding out that his father is not so bad and having most of his morale crushed. There are endless options for the next chapter, I think that it will turn the series in an extreme way.

 

May I just say-Episode 15 was made of pure win. There is no other way to describe it.

 

Damn you John. It's going to be another 4 hours before I see the episode. Just... Damn you.

 

...Holy shit. I...holy shit. That episode was completely unexpected. Entirely awesome in all ways, but unexpected. I need to see more, damn it...

 

Umm, OK that was slightly different than I anticipated (to say the least)...

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Is Lelouch immortal now? Does he lose his Geass? The credits make a little more sense now

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The "Lies" thing is a little lame though. I was expecting more from that.

 

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Where the fuck is that time machine when you need it!

Mind blowing episode that was totaly worth the waiting. The twist at the end was beautiful.

 

So the spoilers were true...that's good and bad at the same time as I don't really love what happens from here on out. Oh well, hopefully they're not completely accurate, but they got the memory loss right.

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Definitely a good episode and there was a shot of Cornelia and Lelouch in the preview for Turn 16. Nina is back and more insane than ever. I hope she dies in her own damn explosion.