In my opinion, the death toll is at a perfect level, the whole series got darker and darker as it went on, so i think the fact that the last book is soaked in the life essence of its characters is the perfect counter balance to the shitty ending....come on...Albus Serverus? wtf man?!
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But that's beside the point. I think the ending was indeed too happy, because there was hardly any death. I was expecting Ron to kick the bucket in one of the final scenes, not Remus and Tonks dying off-camera. Disappointing, but it is a childrens series -- what did we expect?

 

I think all of DLP was expecting that - or at least hoping for it.

I always wanted to see him die from a STI, contracted from his sister.

 

I wish Harry had been felled by an AK the same time as Voldemort or just after. Once Harry kills Voldemort, prophecy becomes null and void, thus fair game.

His luck so shoulda run out >.>

I would so prefer Harry dies by being mauled to death via toothless lions than end up with Ginny >.>

And naming your child Albus Severus Potter...goddamn, you are screaming for the fangirl's to write Yaoi fanfics.

*Shudder*

 

I think the name was supposed to encourage slash.

 

Am I the only one who thought the ending revealed Dumbledore to be an incredibly creepy manipulator? I've read lots of reviewers talk about how he's "gray" because he was busy making assbabies and world-domination with Grindy in his youth. But nobody ever seems to bring up the fact that he deliberately sent Harry on the entire Horcrux hunt without telling him he was going on a path that could only end with his own death. The fact that Cheaty McGuffin brought him back to life wasn't part of the master plan.

I mean, I get that it's all supposed to be happily ever after according to JKR. But honestly considering that, Severus might actually be the less objectionable of the two names.

 

It wasn't that the there was not enough/too many deaths, but the lot of them seemed kind of pointless and unemotional for the reader.

And I would have changed a bit with whom killed who. Especially with Bella. I thought that Neville should be the one to do away with her one way or another.

I also thought one of the Malfoy parents should have been killed, particularly Luscious. Umbridge too should have saw her demise with death. Then with Tonks and Lupin's death, show it for crying out loud. Not jut have them lying there.

And because everyone was expecting Snape to die., he shouldn't have died. He could have been mistaken to be dead, but in the end, say Fawkes found him somehow and dropped his tears onto the wounds. Harry still would have been up at the castle looking at the pensieve, and Snape could have showed up at the last moment. Perhaps Luscious could have taken one last stab at Harry after Voldemort's defeat, and Snape comes in and curses him with same curse Harry had used on Draco in HBP. Well, it would have been nice in my opinion.

 

Or maybe Snape should have died via centaur bukkake. To each their own.

 

@ Warhorse - I agree with you opinion on Bellatrix's death. Having Molly Weasley kill one of Voldemort's best was absolutely retarded. She wasn't ever really in the order. She was no fighter.

And his name is Lucius. He is in no way Luscious...

I also agree somewhat with you opinions about Lupin' and Tonks' deaths. They pointless and didn't even phase me. But I guess that was sort of what JKR was going for, as Harry was in such a fog when he saw them. It was just supposed to be one more thing that would help him sacrifice himself.

And you know my opinion about Snape if you have read your introduction thread.

 

I was about to suggest that. Why not just have one of the DLPers write up the final battle the way it should have happened, with their own 19 year later epilogue? Hell it could be made into a challenge, if it hasn't already.

 

I so agree with you on Bellatrix. Molly lost no one to her. Nevill's parents are gone in the head, Harry lost Sirius and Hermione was tortured by her. Why should Molly have the honors? Let Neville take that knife he used to decapitate the serpent's head and use it to disembowel Ms Bellatrix.

And what ever happened to Lavender Brown. One minute, she's being bitten by Greyback, then nothing is ever heard of it again.

On a personal note, I think it would have been wicked as hell to see Greyback and Lupin duel each other in the werewolf form. That is how Lupin should have died, and taken Greyback with him! And Tonks, well, kind of ended up being a nothing character for me, so if she lived, died, never existed all together, never really bothered me none.

 

Okay people, I agree that quite a few of the deaths were meaningless and others weren't given enough screen time. But seriously, it could have been so much worse.

Did anyone notice that fact that Fawkes Kamikazed into Dumbledore’s tome and was never seen again? I don't know about you guys, but I was horrified when I read that. We all know who much JKR loves to throw in little bits of mythology, and Fawkes' stunt reminded me of a myth where the ashes of a phoenix can bring the dead back to life.

So while JKR made the ending far to happy, and quite possibly got the names for Harry's children from a fan letter, at least the fan girls didn't get there wish. Dumbledore stayed dead, even though he probably got more dialogue in one chapter of DH then in the whole first two books.

 

When the fuck did that happen? I don't remember Fawkes ever being at the funeral... and he wasn't in Deathly Hallows either.

BTW, isn't a month's (give or take a few days) gap a necro?

 

of course there wasn't enough death Ginny and the shit stain Ron lived, Harry lived to reach the Fangirls dream thats not happy either its pathetic, oh there is never enough death
Who else should have died Molly Wobbles for one, keh her fighting Bella puhlease

 

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Then several people screamed. Bright, white flames had erupted around Dumbledore's body and the table upon which it lay: Higher and higher they rose, obscuring the body. White smoke spiraled into the air and made strange shapes: Harry thought, for one heart-stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but next second the fire had vanished. In its place was a white marble tomb, encasing Dumbledore's body and the table which he had rested.

Half-Blood Prince, p. 645

I took that to mean that Fawkes flew into the fire.

Sorry, didn't look at the date.

 

So what if Fawkes flew into the fire? WTF happened the phoenix whose already died (like atleast twice) is going to die permantely? ??? GAH! Another damn bloody plothole!

OT: I just realized how many damn Stus/Sues there are in HP and its getting on my last damn nerves. I can take Stus/Sues in manga (because they're pretty much unavoidable) but books are were I draw the line. *sighs* It was too happy...Too damn peaceful I thought that "All was Well..." would be more like a "All was well for the next two seconds before all hell broke loose." but nope. I got this sickly sappy ending with Gin-bot and Harry Stu living happily ever after. *headdesk*

 

I'm disappointed I wanted Voldemort to win

 

They should have let Bellatrix kill Hermione in the torture scene in DH. No reason, except to shut Hermione's big trap up.

I was also disappointed that all of the Malfoys and the Weasleys (except Fred) lived. What kind of justice there is in these books?

I was also angered that Harry didn't become evil.

-Mary

 

Well, since this has already been semi-revived, I'll add my opinion.

The ending was way too happy for a war, but we have to remember that JKR wanted the books to be for children and the theme was 'love over hate/evil'. That being said, I wish both Fred and George had died like Molly's brothers. I think it's cruel to kill off one twin and leave the other alive so he can live his life devastated and empty. Keeping with the theme of mothers protecting their children, Molly should've died facing Bellatrix, and then perhaps either Neville or Percy could've finished her off. If both the twins survived, it'd been cool to see them use all their genius and tricks in a duel versus Bellatrix or various death eaters.

I think the reason the ending seemed so happy, is because we didn't actually get to see a lot of character deaths. Remus and Tonks - favorites of a lot of fans - died, but we didn't get to see their fall. It was basically just a brief their-dead-bodies-are-under-white-sheets-but-anyway-Harry's-death-is-imminent thing. Although we saw Severus's, it wasn't dramatic enough. Right when we were getting ready to feel horror at his death - and I say that loosely, because I wasn't a big fan - we were bombarded with Severus/Lily memories and Harry's fate. Besides, he was killed by a bubble snake... How un-cool is that? I'm all for big duels and dramatics, and the seventh book totally failed in that category.

 

Woo hoo, some other newbsaucer made a necro-post! Now's my chance.

As someone else mentioned, canon tells us that more than fifty good guys died in the Battle of Hogwarts. Between that and the few other tidbits we get (e.g., Voldemort claiming that half of the defenders were incapacitated/killed), it's almost a certainty that there were more deaths of known characters.

The thing is, I'm not sure if Rowling actually realizes this; numbers are not her strong point. She might have just tossed the number out because it looked elegant and shocking, without ever thinking about the level of decimation you'd need to account for fifty bodies among, what? Perhaps a hundred defenders in the first phase of the battle, and a few hundred more in the second phase? I always conjectured that most of the deaths were in the first phase. The total number of deaths on both sides might put the battle on the scale of World War I's worst battles, when accounting for the population difference.

So, there should be plenty of unhappiness to go around, but we're limited to Harry's perspective, and Harry was utterly spent after the battle. I suspect it was a hard couple of weeks or months for him, and perhaps a hard few years for some especially traumatized participants in the battle. Rowling ignored this, and I suppose I understand why, even though I wish it were otherwise.