Actually I'm wondering how the kyuubi is gonna be affected. After all if Naruto

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dies as part of his training, wouldn't that trigger the little after effect of the seal. Assuming it hasn't be dammaged to that extent.

 

I don't think it's "more" chakra but "stronger" chakra as in more potent in energy.

I'm not sure bout your second statement though...what do you mean?

 

The Yondaime's seal ties Naruto's and the Kyuubi's souls together by slowly blending them. Thus when Naruto dies he drags the Kyuubi's soul to the afterlife with him, as opposed to normal demon seals that simply release the demon upon death.

 

Me too...

Sometimes everything seems so rushed and then suddenly 'upps', the next 5/10 episodes/chapters try to unmake this one thing.
One step for, three back

 

It might be that the sage arts will be what allows Naruto to ultimately control the Kyuubi chakra. After all, the concept of being one with nature and all is remarkably like the nine-tails itself...isn't the kyuubi also a force of nature or something?

Edit: The sage arts allow the user to channel and use energy from surroundings and the kyuubi chakra can be thought of as a 'surrounding' energy...

 

but you gotta wonder though: what effect would Naruto dieing have on the Kyuubi? on the Seal itself?

 

In a dark office somewhere a tracking-seal starts screeching/smoking or drops dead.

 

It doesn't seem as if he will learn anything other than Hirashin (?) which seems likely with this training. Only when he is in tune with Nature he can use it with out a tag like his dad. Hence a completed jutsu. The one Jiraiya and that toad were chatting about.<_<

 

I say all thats going to happen is that he'll learn to make a new rasengan. With Sage Chakra. Thats all.

Do you really think Kishi is smart enough to come up with new techniques?

 

The Ultimatge Rasengan has already been made. Jiraya uses it against one of the Peins, while in Sage mode. So, i'm guessing he used Sage chakra.

 

Ultimate Rasen Shuriken? I don't think Naruto will actually have to die...more likely that it is some form of symbolism. I'll definitely be disappointed if what he ends up learning is Rasen Shuriken and Hiraishin.

 

Senjutsu increases everything. What does it matter if he only learns a few super-powered moves? He'll still be able to kick ass. Besides, discounting the Sandaime and Orochi, all the high level fights haven't involved a lot of jutsu anyway.

 

Wait though. Who else knows these sage techniques? Are these specifically for Toad users or do all summons teach these things?
Cause if its the latter Sasuke knows and pwns in these techniques.

 

I doubt Sasuke can use senjutsu, because for one, he killed Manda, and two, they didn't seem to have a very good relationship beforehand.

 

Aw, but you have to take the Sasuke-factor into account!
Kishimoto makes it clear as daylight, Sasuke can learn EVERYTHING, can do EVERYTHING ,bla, bla, bla...


I only believe he can't use this technique when I have it black on white,
but one shouldn't give up hope, miracles can happen, seldom, but they do.

 

So? Why does it matter that Manda is dead? Gamabunta isn't a sage and hes the toad boss summon, so I'm guessing that Manda isn't either.

In Chapter 404 the little toad sage training Naruto says hes one of two toad sages so I'm guessing that there are other sages within all the different summoning contracts.

btw does anyone know which chapter Hanzou & Sasuke meet?

 

1) Gamabunta isn't at the top of the hierarchy when it comes to the toads. The prophecy giving one and the two little ones are above him, at least in regards to social hierarchy. He may be the Leader of the toads though.

2) The little toad training Naruto is the same one Jiraiya wrote the message on, and just happens to be married to another powerful toad... Draw whatever conclusions you will from that.

3) We don't know for certain if there are other summons willing to teach skills, but from what I could tell from Manda they aren't the sort to give things away. Though there is the matter of Orochimaru and his serpent-like abilities (snakes rejoining his body in the 4-tail Naruto fight and his White Snake form).

4) Hanzou is dead. Pein killed him so he could take over Amegakure.

 

If Naruto had killed Gamabunta, do you think the toads would be teaching him anything? Always have to spell everything out.

I think the snakes may have taught Orochimaru a thing or too, though his abilities may have just been the result of his freaky expirements.

 

According to the fillers, they were.

But, as they were just fillers, you have to take them with a grain of salt.
Or a whole saltshaker, but whatever.

 

Fillers are like very fancy fanon. The finniest thing that can happen is that in fillers something is stated as a fact (or something halfway meaningful happens) and it is later proven in cannon that it is wrong/impossible etc.

Than you will find the true difference between the three main groups:
Manga-verse-follower
Anime-verse-follower
Anime and Manga-follower

Popular examples are Shaman King and Fullmetal Alchemist and to a certain degree Yu-Gi-Oh!

The anime and the manga from FMA cancel each other out, but one has to mention that the manga is still in progress and the anime finished...
(Both are great, but after episode 14 or the ~6th manga there are too different stories)

Would be a great lulz if they would use some technique in the fillers and later it can't be done or something like that.