Wheres the Harry/Cat smut? Lol, I think you should expand on it lol.

 

Sorry, I draw the line at bestiality.

I think this has purged whatever urge I had for Harry/Narcissa out of my system. If needed, I may come back and clean this up to be a sub-1kword oneshot.

 

On the horrible characterizations of Luna, as mentioned by others, I love what Full Pensieve did with Luna in his fic Harry Potter and the Years of Rebellion. And yes, I'm fully aware that this fic--and its author--didn't really sit well with a lot of members here.

He managed to bring out aspects of Luna that make her seem more normal--well, easier to relate to at any rate--but held onto the way she sees things differently from others. A good example of this is the way she spotted the differing shadows of the ward anchors around the 'pad' Harry inherited from Sirius, and the conversation about seeing things downside-up that followed. Another example is the way she still compared her pining for Ron to a magical creature that others might argue doesn't exist.

Yeah, she was more normal, but at the same time, she wasn't a watered down or overly simplified nutcase who only ever said things if they related to some imaginary creature of her father's creation.

I wish a lot of fanon authors would put as much thought into characterization as it seems he did for Luna's in particular. It would make searching through various sites for reading material a more fruitful experience, anyway.

 

Eh, I really don't like when Luna is made out to be a seer or possess 'mage-sight' or some other gay shit like that.
Luna isn't a insane, imo, but she probably suffers from Schizotypal personality disorder

That said, I like the pairing because, like Dr. House, I like the way crazy people think. Definitely adds variety.

I also generally like pairing with any Ravenclaw, possibly Lisa Turpin, Morag McDougal. I don't like either Cho or Su Li pairings because I know the story will be full of gay weeaboo shit, and I don't like the Patils because I know it'll be a phail threesome.

On the Slytherins, I do like Daphne, as long as, like some above poster said, there is no "Ice Queen" crap. I would like to see more Tracey Davis parings, because she is a half-blood who isn't ugly like Milicent.

I would also really like to find a Harry/Pansy story where she isn't under a glamor or some like asshathery. if you're gonna write a pairing with her, accept her as she is.

Also, for those who would prefer a non twoo-wub relationship, but more the usual teenage stuff, Harry/Lavender is pretty good, as long as it isn't after she becomes Ron's used goods.

 

I dunno, Ron's sloppy seconds could go along way for Weasley bashing (which I enjoy reading). Lavender is a gossip queen, and could easily spread rumours about Ron's lack of skills/wedding tackle. etc.

I have read one fic, in which there was a breif H/Lav pairing, albiet non-romantic (I don't remember what it was called) - just two teens acting like teens should in the prefect bath.

Lavender certainly has potential. I see her as a Griffindor version of Pansy Parkinson really, minus the pureblood.

 

I'll believe that when I see it. Who knows, maybe she'll look better in HBP.

But until then...

 

But previously....



Although, if you want to go that route, then I'm guessing you think Snape looks just like Allan Rickman?

 

Since the subject here was about the characters' ages, the section of my post you highlighted is irrelevant here.

Furthermore, your quote does little to disprove what I said. That Lucius Malfoy, a Slytherin prefect, welcomed a first year to the house when he sat down beside him, does not somehow make them blood brothers. It also doesn't mean he didn't decide Snape was a twat the minute he actually got to know him.

Also, we all know that Lucius is all about keeping up appearances in public. It hardly takes an overactive imagination to picture him welcoming the new firstie in front of the rest of the school, presenting a united Slytherin front, then waiting until he got back to the common room to inform Snape, "Let me be very clear; you are a poor, shabby excuse for a Slytherin. Let us hope that your whore of a mother tainting her once pure bloodline is not an example of how you will be bringing shame and embarrassment to our house. You have neither a name nor lineage to fall back on, boy, the only thing that will improve your position here is hard work. If any of the Slytherin prefects, myself especially, are forced to clean up after your mistakes, you can be certain that you will regret it. Am I understood?"

I certainly hope you don't think that one single line from Deathly Hallows indicates that Lucius was Snape's mentor or some bullshit like that.

I admit, though, that it may not be readily apparent to most people where I was coming from with my comments. Suffice it to say, I get annoyed with stories that lump every character older than Harry and younger than McGonagall into the same years at Hogwarts.

On top of that, they try to portray the 'Usual Slytherin Suspects' (Snape, Lucius, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Regulus, etc.) as being best buddies who hang out together in the common room, smoking and generally acting too cool for school as part of some back-slapping, mutual admiration society, when the fact is that, whether they were in school together or not, most of them can't stand each other. They certainly weren't some slick, dangerous, uber-loyal cabal of elite death eaters just waiting to get out of school so they can kill mudbloods.

Some people seem to be under the delusion that 21 Jump Street + SAS or Navy Seals = Slytherin House during the 'Marauder Era'.

As to the veracity of the ages I posted: Any chronological information from JKR tends to be suspect, since she contradicts herself and changes her mind so often. I admit that.

Fanon is not fact. True enough, some details can be changed, though I think you'll agree that many of the canon facts that are changed by fic writers or invented because they didn't know any better, are for the worst.

I'm not one of those monkeys who think you can't change anything from canon, but I do think some internal consistency is nice and following canon somewhat closely provides this.

On JKR's Black Family Tree, it lists Bellatrix's year of birth at 1951 and Narcissa's at 1955. Andromeda is burned off the tree, as in the books, but is shown as having been in between her sisters. Extrapolating that this makes her the middle child (since the other branches are all in chronological order and, as stated before, internal consistency is a good thing), that means Andromeda was born sometime between the extremes of late 1951, if Bellatrix were born close to the beginning of the year, and early 1955, if Narcissa were born at the end of the year.

Bearing that in mind, the difference in their ages isn't all that much. My sister is ten years older than I am, which I consider a pretty big difference, but the Black sisters are, at the most, four years apart between the youngest daughter and the eldest.

Obviously the answer to that is: Some people.
An equally appropriate answer would be: People who like internal consistency, rather than randomly spouted nonsense written by someone who didn't know the facts.

I have found that if an author says, "I know this isn't quite the way it was in the books, but I made a decision to tweak it a bit to fit better in my story." I can usually accept that. It's when it becomes painfully obvious that they're just making shit up left and right because they weren't paying attention, or due to sheer ignorance, that I get irritated.

 

Bravo @ Warlocke's rant.

QFT.

 

As Sirius is a biased and unreliable source on anything related to death eaters, The

Now comes the part that makes your GoF quote extremely unreliable

See there, your post is based on what Sirius Black said, and as he was a "light wizard", a member of the order, the bestfriend of Lily and James, and the black sheep of the Black family, that quote means very little in terms of reliable info on death eaters.
Edit: Sorry, that part of your post, in relation to "Death Eaters @ Hogwarts in the 70s", not your whole post

 

I wasn't saying that she looks exactly like the actor. I'm not saying the actor isn't attractive either.

What I was saying, is that I picture her looking something similar to that pic.

 

Yes, I'd take that quote too, but still, you do have to admit that Sirius is definitely not a particularly reliable source concerning Death Eaters...

 

Saying they all became death eaters isn't the same as saying they were the magical equivalent of a black ops team while they were still waiting to grow pubes. Many fic authors seem to be going for that vibe when they write that generation of students.

As for Snape knowing a lot of curses; sounds like Sirius being his normal, Snape-hating self to me. His father was a muggle and an abusive one. If Snape's witch mother was that hot at magic, she certainly didn't use it to set her husband's muggle ass straight. I doubt Snape learned much from her. Considering how the purebloods feel about death eaters, I doubt too many of them were coming by the industrial zone to tutor a pre-Hogwarts Severus on curses.

Er, how doesn't that fit? Where does it say that Bellatrix went to school at the same time as Snape? That quote from Sirius neither explicitly, nor even implicitly tells us this.

Why? What's the point of making Narcissa that young when you can go with the family tree? Unless your goal is to make her as young as possible in order to pair her with Harry (without having her be an old bag ), then there's no point.

Furthermore, if you make her younger than Lily by more than a year or two, that puts her practically popping Draco out while she's still in school. At two years younger than Lily, Narcissa would have conceived Draco when she was seventeen! And before anyone comments on twelve-year-olds getting pregnant- we're talking about wealthy purebloods with reputations to uphold and very pressing reasons not to go about having bastard children, not the doughy girl from homeroom who let herself get knocked up because she was just thrilled a guy was willing to pay attention to her, even if it was the class burnout.

Out of all the shit that's wrong with the books, the ages of the Black sisters aren't one of them.

Sigh... I had hoped my previous post wouldn't precipitate a hijack but, alas, it has.

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Back on topic.

I'm a fairly big fan of Harry/Pansy fan, though I couldn't even begin to say why. It's 99.9% easier to realistically explain away her bad behavior, or show her having a change of heart, than it is with firmly entrenched doucheba- I mean bad guys like Snape, the Malfoys, and other bad guys you see in so many Hermione/death eater pairings. uke:

And of course, just because she's not a bad guy, doesn't mean she has to quit being a sarcastic bitch and suddenly morph into Mother Theresa.

Harry/Tonks is a paring I quite enjoy, though most of the people trying their hands at writing this don't bother to move beyond the established clichés.

I'm a big fan of Harry/Hermione, but it would take a really, REALLY well written story to catch my interest now, or a compelling gimmick, as the pairing is so played out. Just boring as hell, really.

The played out part goes quadruple for Harry/Ginny, compounded by the fact that I'm no fan of that couple to begin with. The only recent examples of this that I can recall being able to tolerate are Taking Control and Family Inseparable (because it's so different).

Harry/Luna is great when the writer can avoid the two extremes of either making her too crazy or too sane; an easy trap to fall into, since either one is easier than writing a straight up, quirky but sane Luna.

Harry/Su Li. Just because. Actually, it interests me more than Harry/Cho.

Harry/Morag MacDougal. Same reason.

Sadly, I have 13K words of a fic that slowly becomes Harry/Morag/Su. Yeah... it's in the same pile with the other unpublished remnants I write.

Harry/* Delacour is always nice.

I'd like to see one decent Harry/McGonagall fic that doesn't end with everyone dying or with Harry getting Obliviated. Again, I'm not sure why, I just do.

In that vein, why are there no Harry/Lily stories with endings (one-shots don't count)?

Harry/OFC is probably my least favorite, since so many OFCs just completely suck.

Arguably, any Hogwarts girl other than the Gryffindor girls and Cho are OFCs, but they're usually still somehow less offensive than total OFCs.

I'd read Harry paired with pretty much any female but Umbridge at this point, as long as I was being entertained.

It's not that there isn't anything else in the HP world for us to explore, it's that there are so few pioneers taking us there.

Maybe one of these days I'll get around to writing that Lily/Harry/girl!Harry that was requested of me. Lulz.

FUND IT!
Hot-middle-sister-Delacour is just what we need in this troubled era. Vote Hot-middle-sister-Delacour in 2008! She didn't show up at Hogwarts during the TWT because she was so hot, she would have been a distraction. I expect to see the first chapter of Harry and The Home-Schooled Veela submitted to one of the major fanfic sites any day now.

Any day now...

 

It's a different standard for men than it is for women. A married or unmarried man at the age of 12 can have 4 children and be respected still, but a 17 year old woman, unmarried, can have one and completely destroy your entire family.

Its odd like that. And Narcissa would have remained unmarried until after Hogwarts, I expect.

 

He did not say they went to school together, he said they were all Slytherins who became death eaters. He doesn't have to be wrong about when his cousin went to school to simply lump her in with a 'gang' of people who all did the same thing.

It is not explicit in his statement that those people all went to school together.

If Seamus Finnigan, Lavender Brown, and Peter Pettigrew all became death eaters, we could say they were all a gang of Gryffindors that became death eaters, but they certainly didn't all attend Hogwarts at the same time.

Since we have the family tree providing a specific date, and a statement from Sirius that is vague enough not to provide a specific time for Bellatrix to attend school, there is nothing stopping the family tree's date from being considered totally valid. Call it splitting hairs if you wish, you may be right. *shrug*

JKR may retcon these or a whole new set of dates into her eventual guide to the HP world anyway. Pray she doesn't feel compelled to 'gift' us with a set of gag-tastic 'Marauder Era' prequels.

Believe me, I've noticed these things (Bellatrix's father was all of 12-13 when she was conceived), as I've pointed it out here more than once. You'll also note, though, that this happened in a different social era, even for wizards.

Not only that, there's no rule that says their wives were the same age as they were, as it doesn't show their birth dates. They both might have been married off to spinster daughters, easily many years older than they were, or at least old enough to be out of school. What can a guy do multiple times in one day that a woman can only do once every nine months or so?

Yeah...

It wouldn't impede a thirteen-year-old Cygnus to impregnate his post-school-aged wife and trot right back off to Hogwarts to go about his business, while she stays at home with her parents or in-laws, doing whatever until the baby arrives.

It's entirely possible that in earlier eras, some girls were lucky enough to attend Hogwarts, while others were taught basic magic at home along with how to be a proper pureblood wife and mother. Thus, it wouldn't matter that they were carrying a child during what most people would consider to be their school-aged years.

On the other hand, Narcissa did attend Hogwarts and if she, or any other girl in the school, got pregnant at that age, it would likely ruin their magical education, or shame them at the very least, since it would obviously be an unplanned event.

Ignoring all those fics where someone is raising a baby at Hogwarts, you'd have to be out of your god-damned mind to try it, even without a dark lord after you. Potions class alone would probably cause a pregnant girl to miscarry or give her child birth defects, to say nothing of the dangerous spells flying around the other classes. And a pregnant woman on those asinine moving staircases? Ugh, I shudder to think of it. It's an accident not just waiting, but begging to happen.

I wouldn't throw a shit fit if someone tweaked her age for a good reason. I think the BFT is more reliable than speculation, though.