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Jon Stewart Pwns Sarah Palin

Discussion in 'The Humor Mill' started by Padfoot85, Sep 4, 2008.

  1. Jamven

    Jamven Headmaster DLP Supporter

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    You'll know it when you see it...
     
  2. Immolo

    Immolo High Inquisitor

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    It's also known as the most southern part of the Old South aka the Confederacy. For example Alabama.
     
  3. SunderBolt

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    Ah I see nope not met anyone from there, about as close as I ever got to the deep south was watching 'Fried green Tomatoes' and 'Steel Magnolias'
     
  4. Lorelei of the Sea

    Lorelei of the Sea Unspeakable

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    Fuck, watch tonight's episode. It's so unbelievably full of awesome.
     
  5. Giovanni

    Giovanni God of Scotch

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    Contempt, I will give you a very good reason for why Colleges and Universities tend to be more liberal -- at least in their history departments -- than conservative.

    The evidence.

    If you were to take the standard "RAH RAH AMERICAH!" conservative dogma, it wouldn't pass the test. In fact, it wouldn't even come close. Aside from the fact that it pretends America was only sparsely inhabited before Europeans came to it, and that slavery would have died out on its own if that evil bastard Lincoln hadn't gone around being a douchebag, it's sources simply aren't in order.

    Why haven't we learned a better narrative then? Simple, because Texas controls the textbook market for the entire US since it is the 2nd largest purchaser and has absurd requirements for what books it will purchase. So lots of completely debunked history -- based on sources that were completely made up or deliberately mistranslated/interpreted incorrectly -- continues to be taught.

    And that's not even going into the Sciences where -- if one takes the Conservative position -- one must deny modern biology.

    So why on Earth are those damned Liberal Artists and Scientists so Liberal? Maybe it has something to do with the evidence.

    * * *

    And as someone who attends a University that is just slightly to the left of Attila the Hun, I would suggest that you think before making generalizations about college students.
     
  6. della_couer

    della_couer Second Year

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    What would we all do without Jon Stewart, it is certainly the only thing that made these last eight years bearable for me. I can only imagine how much his staff must have to comb through old political chats to find the obvious hypocrisy. Do these people think that the cameras weren't rolling when they said their previous comments? That no one would notice?

    As for Palin, as another Vagina American, I have this to say. She was obviously a last ditch attempt for Republicans to prove that they are not both racist and sexist. (can't put two white men up there again, eh?) The very obvious attempt at catering toward female voters really puts me off any hope I had for McCain.
     
  7. Lorelei of the Sea

    Lorelei of the Sea Unspeakable

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    It is very well known that Republicans as a party suffer from severe memory problems. Just look at those poor boys in Congress, so embarrassed because they just "can't recall." And poor Sarah Palin! I think moose might do something to memory cells, because she just can't seem to remember anything.

    Do you think there's something in the water at the RNC? Because I see no other explanation aside from blatant stupidity and douchebaggery.
     
  8. Spanks

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    I was refering to the news clips, not actually using the Daily Show in a commercial. I figure you can use news video clips as a source without being slapped with a lawsuit.
     
  9. Contempt

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    I said, at most, two lines about college students. Here, let me quote it for you.

    This is truth. This is not generalization. If you can prove that my statement is a baseless generalization, then perhaps your bullshit rant about "RAH RAH America!" conservatives would have found a better home. In fact, your generalization about the beliefs of the conservative party seem to indicate that you are the person who needs to think before writing your thoughts. Because, if I understand you correctly, I believe that America was not populated by Native Americans and that Lincoln was not necessary to the end of slavery.

    And that I deny modern biology simply because I am a conservative.

    It seems like you've fallen into double standard trap. You don't even know where I stand, or where most actual conservatives stand, and you've made a bit of an assumption about their knowledge of history and sciences.

    In fact, many of the reasons I consider myself conservative have absolutely nothing to do with religion, tradition, or because I'm always going "RAH RAH America". It has in large part to deal with my economic policies, and views on the rights of the government and normal americans.

    There is no overarching EVIDENCE that I have discovered at college that has as of yet swayed me from my conservative core values. Despite being friends with people from Anti-war colilition and PRIDE and other such liberal organizations, no evidence they have offered has convinced me to suddenly see the light, and become enlightened.

    Think before you write man, please.
     
  10. Giovanni

    Giovanni God of Scotch

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    And here we see Contempt make the mistake of failing to look at polling data. My guess is that you fall into the enterpriser category. What sucks for you is that -- in terms of sheer numbers -- you make up less than 1/3 and as little as 1/4th of the conservative movement.

    There's always a general assumption that college students are more liberal. The problem is that when we look at the data this assumption does not bear historical fruit, and we see the trend continue into the present day.

    To the point were we see that a majority of students hold traditionally conservative views on many issues:

    Which should be an expected trend-line indicating that the on/off-campus gap I linked to earlier is closing as information becomes more ideologically parcelled and marketed.

    As for the "denying modern biology" line: I stand by it.

    And as for the lack of being "swayed" from your core values, once you've had the Kool Aid, sometimes not even Poison Control can help you.
     
  11. Contempt

    Contempt Third Year

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    I do indeed fall into the Enterpriser category. The tip off should have been when I said my main concerns where economic policies. Making up 1/4 of the conservative movement doesn't bother me, because there are multiple factions in any political party, because its rare that everyone will agree with everyone on everything in regards to issues.

    In regards to your points, while you do make some good points, but the evidence actually supports my claim, by about 10 percent. I found my quotes from the same article you tagged as "a majority of students" hold traditionally conservative views, and unsurprisingly, those views deal with economic policies.

    And in regards to your point about denying biology, I fall into the 30% category. I didn't realize that the creationist faction was so large. Eh, America is a place where you can believe and say what you want.

    And really, kool-aid? Your equating my affiliation to the Republican party and conservative ideals to being crazy? I don't particularly like people that think that because my views are different, I am inherently stupid or crazy because of it.

    Intelligent discussion should never invoke pointless insults or mudslinging, in my opinion. Which is why I very often can't stand watching news television.
     
  12. Novamute

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    Looking at fridays "Reformed Maverick" bit I have come to a very un-suprising conclusion. There is nothing that cannot be made better if it is narrated by Ian McShane. That is all