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A Question about Quirrel

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Admonkeystrator, Sep 18, 2008.

  1. Admonkeystrator

    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    So, He's possessed by the dark lord, and teaching DADA.
    Does the 1 year curse apply to him, since for all intensive purposes, Voldemort is the DADA teacher? or is he?

    It also begs the question, which is plaguing me in my poor 1st attempt at fanfiction writing, of; Just how long as Quirrel been in the job?
    If more then 1 year, then surely dumbles and snape know he's somehow very intimately connected to the dark lord...

    Going from Canon, I'd say that yes, he's been there more then 1 year, since not only Hagrid introduces him to Harry, as the DADA professor, but also Percy seems to let on that It's not Quirrel's first year.. Although the dialogue was pretty vague.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. azrael

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    It is his first year, and the curse does apply.

    Hagrid knows he is the teacher because he knows just about everything that goes on at Hogwarts, and I don't remember what you're talking about with Percy, but if it is there it is a plothole. Dumbledore specifically says in HBP that no defense teacher has lasted longer than a year since Tom Riddle applied for the job and was denied.

    And regarding the curse, Voldemort doesn't possess Quirrell until later in the year, and even then Quirrell is still the one teaching, Voldemort is just along for the ride. In this case, Voldemort is sharing the body with Quirrell, not controlling it.
     
  3. Admonkeystrator

    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    It's where harry asks percy who snape is.
    "Oh that's professor snape, he's the potions master, but he's been after Quirrel's job for years, everyone knows it's the dark arts he fancies".

    Hellova plot hole imo.
    How did Percy know he was the DADA professor, if he hadn't been introduced, and was not introduced in the following start of term announcements?

    Oh well I could always reach into the plot hole, and pull out a plot bunny I suppose
     
  4. Paravon

    Paravon Seventh Year

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    He could have taken over the position partway through the previous year. It depends on what happened to the previous professor.
     
  5. Dark Lord Rostam

    Dark Lord Rostam Button La Famiglia Midknight

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    That doesn't prove anything. I believe Percy means he was after the DADA position, which happened to be held by Quirrel. Also, Percy was a prefect that year. It's possible he knew who the teachers were.
     
  6. Admonkeystrator

    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    *scratches head*. Hmm I'm doing a pre-hogwarts story.
    It could be more fun to kill off a dada professor somehow myself.
    Thanks for the thoughts.
     
  7. Memory King

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    I believe that Quirrelll was the Muggle Studies Professor, before he went on that fateful trip to Albania.
     
  8. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

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    He was.

    I thought Voldemort was possessing him the whole year, though, seeing as Quirrell doesn't shake his hand at the Leaky Cauldron, and at the Welcoming Feast he gets the pain in his scar - which he wrongly attributed to Snape at the time.
     
  9. Warlocke

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    Fixed.

    Don't do it again.
    Don't let other people do it.
    Try not to play in traffic.
     
  10. LogrusMage

    LogrusMage Supreme Mugwump

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    And Quirrel's JOB is the DADA teacher. No plot hole here.
     
  11. Samuel Black

    Samuel Black Chief Warlock

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    He was talking about the DADA curse. Y'know, the one where DADA teachers only last a year after Riddle interviewed for the job.
     
  12. LogrusMage

    LogrusMage Supreme Mugwump

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    ...Who, exactly, are you responding to?
     
  13. Samuel Black

    Samuel Black Chief Warlock

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    Your post saying that there wasn't a plothole.

    It said that Snape was after Quirrel's job for years, which implied that Quirrel had the DADA job for years. Obviously, he shouldn't have been able to because of the curse.
     
  14. Blaise

    Blaise Golden Patronus

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    ...It's canon (via some interview) that Quirrell was muggle studies professor the year before Harry arrived.
     
  15. Samuel Black

    Samuel Black Chief Warlock

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    That was just bad writing, then, cause it makes it seem like Quirrel had the DADA post for several years.
     
  16. Janus

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    This could actually be a series of quite entertaining one-shots, I'm halfway tempted to put it up in challenges.
     
  17. LogrusMage

    LogrusMage Supreme Mugwump

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    No. He's after Quirrel's job. She's using that term as a stand in for "Proffesor of DADA".
     
  18. Blaise

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    Do it. How many years was it between the time Tom put the curse on the position and Quirrell? That's probably a decent number of professors. Although not all of them were kill the exact year they taught...
     
  19. Janus

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    Done and done
     
  20. Samuel Black

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    She should have used the latter.

    The way it's phrased, "he's been after Quirrel's job for years", makes it sound like Quirrel's had the DADA post for more then one year.

    My theory is that she actually meant that Quirrel had the job for a while, invented the curse, and then decided to say that he had been a muggle studies professor beforehand.

    It's just bad phrasing.

    My apologies, I had actually forgotten about Quirrel being Muggle Studies teacher before he became DADA.
     
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