Dumbledore had explained that Harry's invisibility cloak could protect him against any spell even Death, so how is it that in HBP Dumbledore immobilized him right before he died? Was it just because of the Elder Wand or is the Cloak not really one of the DH's? Remember in the 7th book Harry never got around to really proving it and if Dumbledore did, well we really dont know anything at all as to what he did.


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You have a point there. Wasn't there also something where a DE attempted to summon the cloak and it failed? The Elder Wand is said to be the uberest wand of them all, so maybe that bypassed some of the cloaks abilities? I'm trying to think of Harry could've tested it anyway. I can't see how Harry would be willing to throw the cloak on and let someone fly a few AKs at him. I don't think J.K.R. made him that dense...

J.K.R has never been great with explaining how things work in the HP world. I get the feeling some poor soul will have to buy a $50+ encyclopedia on HP to find an answer that isn't there.

 

You've got it all wrong here. The Cloak wasn't some uber armor that could prevent any spell from hitting Harry. It certainly could never block an AK. The wonder of the Cloak, that made it different from other cloaks like it, was that its enchantment never wore off or faded, and it provided perfect concealment for the wearer (at least to the naked eye). Someone trying to remove the Cloak forcibly could not, especially if they did not know for sure where the person was or if they were even wearing the Cloak. Dumbledore already knew exactly where Harry was, and he was not breaking Harry's cover or exposing him, he was hiding him further. Another possibility is the target of the spell: the DE tried to summon the cloak directly, while Dumbledore's spell was targeted at Harry with no regard for the Cloak. The Elder Wand might have had something to do with it, but I don't think so.

The Invisibility Cloak, by itself, could not block death. The legend required that all three Hallows come together for that. However, it was superior to a normal invisibility cloak.

 

The whole stopping death thing might be related to the fairy tales involved with the Hallows. As to Dumbledore knowing where Harry was, I don't think it'd be too hard to take a peek at Hagrid's mind to find out where he is in the room. If anyone's unclear on it I suppose we can wait for the $50 encyclopedia. Not.

 

Or we could just acknowledge that JKR royally fucked up in the last 2 [debatable 3] books, and shouldn't really nitpick about that kind of stuff. I mean, the fanon of HP is a ton better than the actual books - and we can write however we please. Therefore, if you don't like a plothole left by JKR, just throw it out.

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No point in pointing out plotholes anymore.

 

We already acknowledged that she fucked up (bad mental imagery) the last 3 books (mostly). Yes the fanon is much better, mainly because most people here can write and aren't being paid to put fillers the size of J.K.R.s ego in. It's not so much the holes, it's the shit she's gonna try to fill them in with. I think some of us are struck dumb by her sheer stupidity and cannot resist the urge to point it out and poke fun at her mercilessly. I'm quite enjoying myself, who isn't?

 

I completely agree and i personally am also enjoying myself. lol

 

Maybe someone should start a thread "Bagging J.K.R. for the hell of it-The DLP method of stress relief". If there isn't one already I'd be very surprised.

 

Well... sorry, but no surprise for you.

 

Almost every canon thread went into "JKR is such a fucking idiot" at some point. I always found that rather arrogant, and now I'm also starting to find it a bit stale.

The size of JKR's ego? Pot kettle black. First, most fanfiction authors' egos are quite impressive, as a rule; second, you just whined about JKR's "sheer stupidity" because yourself were unable to understand a couple of things that are rather simple. I'd have thought Azrael's post was clear enough, but since apparently it isn't, I'll pull out some quotes for you.

Cast at IT. IT as in the Cloak, and not the bearer, in case you didn't get it. It will conceal the bearer no matter what spells try to make IT stop concealing the bearer. If the bearer is shot with an AK, then it will keep concealing the dead bearer's corpse.

To answer the OP's question: yes, the Cloak is truly the third Deathly Hallow.

 

I wasn't whining about something I didn't understand, I only bothered to read the book once, forgive me not remembering every single line. *raises eyebrow* WTF are you on about? I would have thought I wrote "sheer stupidity" in relation to hers when she wrote the last 3 books. I did understand Azreal's, I was saying how all it's godly and exaggerated abilities were part of the fairytale (duh) and the last bit was purely sarcastic. I honestly have no idea about what you're on about. Are you sure you should be out of the asylum so soon?

 

I'm not jealous, why would I want to be a blond bimbo who can't write? *snort* As though that witch could even be second to Tolkien, laughable. Your opinions. I'm not going to waste my time convincing blind idiots. She apparently does have a large ego if she expected me to swallow the amount of crap in DH. This all comes down to a few things. I think the last couple of books suck, the author can't write, she's a greedy bitch and nothing is changing my mind about them or the author. She screwed the books and she screwed my opinion of her.

 

Nameless, put those fucking claws away. Seriously, STFU. They logically repudiated your statement, deal with it or GTFO. There is no need whatsoever for personal attacks unless you plan on starting a flame war, and as the noob, you automatically lose.

 

*sigh* I don't have claws being a human, I don't even have long nails. Logic, since when have humans given a shit about logic of any kind? We don't even follow it half the time. If people used logic in day to day life Apple wouldn't exist.

They are the one who didn't get what I said in the first place, why should I let them keep false assumptions when they aren't mind readers? I'm a rather sarcastic person, 90% of the things I say are sarcastic. I'm not making a personal attack, I'm using logic. No, that wasn't sarcastic, for once.

Popularity she is perhaps second, but she did have a good publisher. Without them she wouldn't be where she is. The book just isn't Tolkien enough to win by style alone, so it had to be the publisher.

I didn't like it so I didn't buy it. The internet is a marvelous thing.

Her greed is evident. Why else would the quality deteriorate unless she was rushing? Why would she rush? To get the book out and to make money. You can see this as the series moves along, the later the books the more plot holes and what little quality there was went out the window. You can't say it's a book for kids as an excuse. It doesn't matter who it's for it should at least maintain the same amount of quality all the way through, unless the greed got to her.

I hope she likes her solid gold bed, they would be uncomfortable to lie on I'd imagine. If she doesn't care about the opinions of the readers she shouldn't be an author. You contradicted yourself by saying she isn't greedy, but by saying she owns a solid gold bed and not caring about what I think as a reader is a sign of greed. It implies as long as we (not me personally) bought the book, got her some money we can all get stuffed as it's just the money she wants. She only donated one book (I can't remember which) to some massive American library. If that isn't greed I don't know what is.

 

When I use sarcasm it isn't to joke. It's to prove a point or to be used as a taunt. I didn't go "lol i wuz joking!" as I'm not one of those sad people who think it looks cool to be illiterate as you seem to do. I won't admit to being wrong, as if you had actually read my post you'd notice it was mostly sarcastic. Why else would I go on about an encyclopedia? You aren't a mind reader so don't assume you know everything. You say I don't use logic? What a hypocrite you are, you don't use it as evidenced by your post.