That blood red really glowed in the bluish-green scene format, didn't it?

Unless I missed it completely, they never used the word, cannibalism even once.

 

I don't think the demons were surprised that angels exist. If you watched the scene closely, Ruby never mentioned that she didn't believe angels existed, just that she didn't believe that an angel helped Dean. I imagine the angels were fighting demons, specifically those trying to break the seals. Notice how Castiel said "this one we lost." Not you, but we. I think that breaking a seal involves more just casting a spell to raise some ghosts, otherwise, any old demon would have done it.

In current events, the episode was awesome. It was rather gruesome, but what episode isn't? I'm just looking forward to some angelic smiting. I really hope that we actually get to see an angel fight something.

 

I really enjoyed this episode especially the confrontation in the beginning between Sam and Dean but I have to admit that I am really hoping Sam was bullshitting at the end about giving up his powers. He finally starts to use them with no physical side affects, he can kill demons and save the host unless its already dead, and best of all, so far it doesn't seem to be making him go batshit nuts. If he is actually giving them up then thats actually a little disappointing because I've really been wanting to see the full range of Sam's powers since if I remember correctly he was supposed to be the most powerful of all the kids Azazel changed.

 

Correction... he had the most potential.

If nothing else, this has only confirmed for me that the angel is the bad guy this season. and its up to dean and sam to figure it out.

Though I wonder how their going to fit ruby into the story after they hinted at romance. That could easily mess up the awesomeness that is the series.

Also I want to know what ruby looked like to dean when he could see demons.

 

That is certainly an intriguing idea, and has some merit. Although with the information we have been shown so far, I'm inclined to disagree.

I believe that Castiel is an actual angel, not some demon impersonating. From the general vibe coming from the demons we've met so far, I don't think any of them would actually dare to impersonate an angel. If such a deception had no serious consequences, they'd be doing it all the time, it would be a good way to fool humans, and in rare cases, hunters too. No to mention that Castiel wasn't affected by any of the anti-demon stuff in the first episode, I think that pretty much ruled out demon.

As for the angels being bad guys, it may be possible. But they would only be 'bad guys' in terms of point of view I think. The angels are working to prevent the release of Lucifer, and I think that they're prepared to do just about anything for their goal, including killing Sam to stop him from using his abilities. That's the only way I can think of for the angels to be bad guys: the angels would still be working for the greater good, just that the greater good isn't so good for the Winchesters.

Besides, if the angels were the bad guys, could you imagine what it would take to even fight them? I don't think any of the books the Winchesters have access to would even remotely touch on fighting angels. Not to mention the whole religious controversy that would inevitably result from fighting an angel on national television.

 

Eh don't be so hasty, if it's some kind of redemption lovey sappy bullshit then yes you are completely right and that would suck donkey balls but I actually think if Kripke did it right then having them both be exactly what they are could turn out fairly epic. You have an ambiguous demon who for an unknown reason at this point is doing her level best to get Sam to use his powers as far as he can, and you have Sam the hunter who is trying to be good but can't quite break away from his demon blood which makes him go batshit insane from time to time and he needs her in order to learn about his demon side and powers. If Kripke kept along those lines I wouldn't mind seeing a "romance" show up.

On a small side note my new personal theory since Castiel talked about Lucifer and they would stop Sam if he kept on his path is that Ruby is trying to get Sam to train up his powers to take out Lucifer and take over for himself.

 

A human take on one of the Fallen, let alone the fairest and most Beloved of all? No way.

I see a few probable reasons for Ruby's interaction with Sam.

1) Ruby is acting as someone's agent, trying to corrupt Sam and have him bound to one of the major infernal powers.

2) I think she's hedging her bets. She seems to be a small-time demon with little in the way of power and no influence. In that situation, the smart thing to do is get friends (or at least allies) on both sides. Sam isn't going to forget who aided him in rescuing all those possessed people. Ruby can count on his support, for whatever it might be worth, when it comes down to the final confrontation.

3) a. She's in it for kicks and chaos, b. with the possible end result of recruiting Sam to be HER ally once the War really kicks off again. She might envision the two of them as independent operators in whatever New World Order ends up on top. In that case, motivating Sam into developing all his abilities is simply intelligent.

 

I heard that the next episode will be done in entirely black and white, like the old horror movies. The episode will probably be amusing, but it'll just be a stand-alone episode I think, like Tall Tales, Ghosthunters, etc.

 

I think ruby is what Dean would have become if he had stayed in hell.

Remember way back when he had that vision of himself with the black eyes. I think Ruby was a human or something turned. Maybe only partially demonized and when she found freedom she hightailed it. Plus we can't forget the whole demon aliegence to sam because of yellow eyes.

I'm not saying all the angels are bad guys, but so far we've only been introduced to castiel here. He's the only voice here saying he is doing Gods bidding. Who's to say he's telling the truth, or not pushing forward his own schemes. I'm still of the belief he will become a fallen angel. Maybe he is vying for the new position of lucifer.

Remember that time sam or dean captured some lady demon and they had that disturbing demon religion talk about lucifer. maybe the angel wants to become the new head devil. The demons are suitably scared of him to follow. Their peons in comparison to him.

I think castiels only pushing sam because he's a threat to him. ie sam ralying the demons under his flag, or vanquishing his army and perhaps himself to hell.

Basicly, my theory is:
Castiel bad angel
Sam is the only one who can stop him when he shows his true colors
Demons are the pawns.
Screw the world.

edit: apparently I missed some super important episode with ruby that confirms all these deom theories...

Watching now

 

Tonights episode had me laughing almsot constantly. I loved the opening with Dean running from the little dog. "Run! It'll kill us all!"

I found the whole thing amusing how Dean was afraid of every single thing. He even chose to "man the flashlight" instead of taking a gun. His girlish scream and subsequent ditchinng (running away when the spirit appeared) of Sam at the mill was hilarious.

Scaring a ghost to death was unexpected, but completely amusing, to say the least.

So Dean is starting to remember what happened to him in hell, or what?

I loved the end with Dean (Jensen Ackles) and "Eye of the Tiger". This guy has got to be the best actor on tv.

Next week seems to be a typical Halloween episode, but should be interesting. So far I've enjoyed every episode this season.

 

That may have been the most awesome episode anywhere... ever.

I can't fault that kid for wishing for the ability to go invisible. I think we all know we would do the same. Plus he made sure to wish for the ability to control it. So Kudos to him for thinking his wish through.

Actually I didn't really see anything really go wrong with his wish. Except being hit by deans car. But that was more his fault for not looking both ways.

Also lol that he still wasn't wearing clothes even then.

I was seriously laughing my ass off.

But the best part of the show was the suicidal teddy bear.

I want the teddy bear suicide gif! I need it!

 

^This

Nowhere else on television will you see the epicness that is a giant bipolar alcoholic suicidal teddy bear with a porno addiction.

 

For your viewing pleasure!

 

* howls with laughter *
That was just as funny the second time!

 

Epic

<goes to watch the full episode>

 

It was hilarious; that damn bear took me by surprise. I never in my wildest dreams pictured Sam and Dean comming across a giant Teddy:

Life is meaningless

signed,

T. Bear


"WHY!?"

 

This was an awesome episode. We finally see what happened during Dean's stay in Hell, and the plot is finally hitting its climax. I really think there is still more to Ruby, and I'm waiting for the big backstab.

I can understand the angels wanting to kill the girl. She can hear what the angels are saying making her a major target for demons. She a walking phone tap.

I really hope the seals break, I kind of want to see how they portray Lucifer.

 

I *knew* the angels weren't "good guys." As soon as we realised that the girl was a ... security leak (and THAT's a weird way of thinking...) I should have figured that she'd be expendable. And the preview looks awesome.

Am I the only one who found that sex scene highly erotic?

 

I loved that episode if for no other reason than the fact that they finally confirmed that Sam's banging the demon chick. That aside it was indeed a great episode with many interesting revelations. We are seeing more and more that the angels are not the cavalry who will come riding to the rescue and save the day. Also Anlun I do get what you're saying about the girl and while it does make sense easily from a military point of view, that point glosses over one big fact...they're angels! No matter how much sense it makes murder should not be the first choice of the angels.

While seeing how they portray Lucifer will be very cool what I really want to see the most right now is for that bastard Uriel to go after Ruby and have Sam rip him out of his little meat-suit.

 

Umm. I think that the angels don't see murder the way we do. If the girl is in Grace (and I think she is,) then she goes to heaven. I can see angels thinking that all she's losing is some pain-filled years. Why wait, really?