It seems like Heroes is continuing ripping of The 4400....


Otherwise the episode was great. Sylar was badass in all of his scenes. The only thing i didn't like was Claire. I just want her dead. Permanently.

 

Someone said they hope Ando gets a power... god I hope not. The show needs normal people to show the difference between the groups. With out Ando and HRG the show is just about the x-men.

 

Apparantly Isaac can cover the past that involves people from the future. I thought the Episode was decent, especially Sylars, "Cake?" comment, that had me cracking up. I am so glad Arthur's dead. I think the writers realized they fucked up again and decided to kill him off. Of course, they may decide to send someone in the past later to save him.... *sigh* no one stays dead in Heroes.

 

Syler has become a bastard again?

 

Yup. They even used one of the actors from the show to inject with the formula. (What was his name? It's bothering the hell out of me. I can't figure it out.)

Am I the only one that thinks Sylar needs to die now? I love that he's a badass again but this is really getting a little old. IMHO he should've stayed dead at Kirby Park. And yes, Claire needs to die. Very soon.

 

I think his name is Chad Faust. I believe he played Kyle Baldwin on The 4400, if I'm not mistaken.

Here is an interview with Bryan Fuller, taken from EW:

Spoiler

AUSIELLO: Where did Heroes go wrong, in your opinion?

BRYAN FULLER: It became too dense and fell into certain sci-fi trappings. For instance, in the “Villains” arc, when you talk about formulas and catalysts, it takes the face off the drama. And I think the goal for everybody is to put a face back on the drama. You have to save something with a face; otherwise you don’t understand what you’re caring about. I thought the "Villains" arc started out very interestingly, and then became sort of muddy and dense and I couldn't get my hooks into the characters to understand their motivations. I also started to feel confused about what people's abilities were. One of the great things about the first season is that the metaphor for their abilities was very clear. Those metaphors seem to have gotten complicated in the past two seasons. I share that concern with everybody on the writing staff. It's not like I'm coming in and saying, "This is what you need to do to fix it!" Everybody knows what needs to be fixed and everybody is sort of rowing in that direction.


AUSIELLO:Your work starts with episode 19, yes?

BRYAN FULLER:Yes. I'm fortunate to be coming into a very exciting story line. [Former co-exec producers] Jeph [Loeb] and Jesse [Alexander], before they left the show, set so many great events in motion with the "Fugitives" arc [kicking off Feb. 2]. It really is a fresh start. All of the characters are back in their real lives. You see Peter as a paramedic. Claire is looking for colleges. We get away from the world of formulas and quasi-magic.


AUSIELLO:Are the "Fugitives" episodes leading up to 19 solid?

BRYAN FULLER:Yes. Episodes 14, 15 and 16 are amazing. The whole "Fugitives" arc starts out very strongly, and then it gets a little dense in the middle in terms of the mythology. So I came in right at the point where everybody was realizing, "Oh, we're getting too dense here and we need to put faces on stories because there is no face to a formula; there is no face to saving the world." So it's turning this big ship back into a character stream, and everyone on the writing staff shares that desire. We need to get back into a character place, because that's where this story started: Very clean, superhero metaphors to everyday life. That's the path that we're taking. But it is a big ship so it's going to take a little while to turn it.


AUSIELLO:Any plans to trim the sprawling cast?

BRYAN FULLEReople will die. And some will return. Matt’s wife [Janice] comes back. We’ll find out what happens when you have a superbaby. We're also going to tell fewer stories per episode. We're going to limit it to three or four with one big one that you can wrap the stories around. We're altering the structure of the show so that there's a very clear A story that takes up a larger percentage of the show so that that story gets traction.


AUSIELLO:Are you looking at Season 4 as a complete reboot of the series?

BRYAN FULLER:It's not necessarily a reboot as much as it is going back to the basic spirit of the show and pulling people back in. I don't think the issues with the show have been about the serialization as much as about the density of the stories that have been serialized.


AUSIELLO:Will you be part of the show next season?

BRYAN FULLER:That's the idea.


AUSIELLO: Will the recent behind-the-scenes changes at NBC impact the show at all?

BRYAN FULLER:It's really hard to imagine Heroes without [Universal Media Studios president] Katherine Pope, because she has been such a proponent of the show. She was so instrumental in [setting] the tone and style of the show in the first season. She is as vital a piece as any of the players on the show at this moment. Her contribution can't be undervalued. It'll be very interesting to see how things shake out.


AUSIELLO:What's your working relationship with series creator Tim Kring been like since returning?

BRYAN FULLER:It's actually been very positive.


AUSIELLO:Who gets final say: you or Tim?

BRYAN FULLER:Tim. I’m a consultant. My job is to help facilitate the vision of the show, and the vision has been a little inconsistent. But “Fugitives” is such a great sea change. I think people who have been critical of Heroes will come back.

Source: http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2008/12/exclusive-bryan.html

 

Thanks. That was driving me crazy.

I laughed at the article. I'm glad someone up there has some ideas about what they're doing. In another article that I read Tim Kring stated that he wasn't sure was he was going to to with the show anymore and was thinking about serializing it (different story every episode. Like House or Law & Order). Thank goodness help is on the way.

 

Hiro seems to endanger the world every time he tries to save it. I mean, he was talking instead of fighting. Not that he could really fight, but he could pop out and go get the sword, then pop back and stab Arthur.


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If Hiro and Peter get the power drug shouldnt they get the power they once had back. I think they said that every person is set for a certain power, and their powers were set.

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Ando was shown to have powers(red lighting??) in the future. But i dont think it would be good for him to get powers. Too many power people as it is. Need some "normies" to even the scales.

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Claire was messing with the time line. Who knows what could change now.
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The super power army could have potential. I'm sure one might go Rogue, or get something like Peter or Sylar powers.


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I think it is because Arthurs works on empthy.
Or it could only work on so many powers at once. But Future!Peter had an entire world of powers to leech off of. So it is a flaw in the Haitian power. Its just one of those things that you have to accept.


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I loved that part, that and the elevator. If i was in there i would be shiting myself.

 

I don't think I could be any more sick of Hiro if I tried. Claire... /endteenangst

Or how Peter's empathy power somehow managed to transfer everyone he'd met to his dad? Technically his power is simply just taking the power of those he empathizes with on some level after getting an understanding of their power.

And his dad's not dead. He's got Adam's power remember? He's got Peter's/Claire's power. A gun shot to the head doesn't mean shit but a few seconds of annoyance.

Sylar going back to crazy was win... however they jumped back and forth with his character, so while individually the stuff he did is cool, jumbled together it's a clusterfuck.

 

I don't think the dad is coming back. That was the point of the Haitian being there, to neutralize all his powers. It's stupid because the moment the Haitian leaves, the dad should get his powers back, but I guess there not doing that. Horrible plot hole seeing as Claire has died twice or so and once she gets her powers back she's good to go again.

Next season will most likely be the repercussion of the 14 other formula doses (I believe they said they made enough for 15 batches). One will go to Hiro, one to Peter, one probably to Suresh, and one went to the army guy. One will also most likely go to whoever brings Hiro back. That leaves 10 more doses.

 

But Sylar didnt have any powers when his neck was cut open by Noah but when they came back he came back to life, thus when the Haitian leaves Arthus he should come back to life unless hi body is utterly destroyed.

 

I think the eclipse leaves powers dormant but still present in the Heroes, while the presence of the Haitian leaves them completely void of their powers.

Future!Peter died when he was shot by Claire in 'I Am Become Death' but didn't regenerate or revive even when Present!Peter was able to slice Future!Nathan's face and teleport away after the Haitian left the room.

 

But in the comics online the haitian in advertantly blocks his fathers powers.

He doesn't know he's doing it.

It makes it seem like he's just a natural dampening field and when ever someone gets close they loose there power. His memory dealy seems like a power he might need concious control over and someone could fight.

As for mr petrelli... he was shot in the head. so as long as the bullet isn't removed until after he decomposes, I don't think he'll rejuvinate. They just have to prevent an autopsy like claires. Which shouldnt be hard considerign everyone thinks he's dead already.

And for him knowing when to find hiro and claire... I think because back then he was still an active member of the company he would have known about a partner dying and looked into it.

And hiro's mom beign who she is I thik they would have noted the time of death. All he would need then is the ability to be invisible which he could have gotten from Peter when he sucked his powers, and stick to Mrs. Nakumura till she croaked. Then pick his moment.

I am glad though that they're trying to re invigerate the show. Its been sucking harsh.

Claires constant, back pedling has been pissing me off. I love my dad, I hate him, I'm a kid, I want to be a kid, I'm a strong independent women in a leather suit, I should be fighting crime with a taser.

I like Noah as he's a smart character, but It paines me to see him put up with her.

On the plus side. I like evil psyco sylar who doesn't really care about being evil or not. He was kind of awesome in the latest episode.

 

They have to destroy the brain or cut off the head to make sure.

He might come back for a few seconds but they shoot again and make sure he cant come back.

 

Claire got shot in the face by her mom, they didn't have to take the bullet out for that one for her to come back.

 

When did she get shot in the face?

The puppetmaster thing she was shot in the chest i thought.

 

Yeah, she was shot in the chest during the puppetmaster thing. And I fully believe that Arthur was dead. Do you remember the long forgotten season 2? When Adam and Peter went to that lady's house to ask about the virus and the woman pointed a shotgun to Adam's head she said it was one of the only ways to kill him. Maybe a gunshot to the head will do enough damage to the brain that it can't recover.

Okay' I have no idea what was going on in that scene. Everyone has been debating it. So unless Present!Peter somehow gained the Haitian's powers and activated them without realizing it, I'm guessing it's another plot hole.

 

There is a huge difference in damage between a point blank shotgun blast and that of a pistol. After the former, there wouldn't be much of a head left.

 

Am I the only one who hates the Haitian? They need to just paint his ass green and call him kryptonite.

And does anyone else find it hilarious that Nathan wants to fix the situation in Darfur by giving the fly-covered, bulging belly natives superpowers?

 

I'm not talking about her getting shot, I'm talking about when she got that branch impaled in her brain way back in the first season and she woke up on the autopsy table...