I agree with the holding on for dear life stuff, but the whole scene was designed for dramatic effect, over any self-serving rationalization of escape. It's also prudent to note that Peter is not immortal. That power was taken, and judging from his sole ability to fly, he hasn't reacquired it from Clair.

I actually thoroughly enjoyed this episode, compared to the others as of late. There were some traces of the last story arc flaws, with everyone being captured within an episode, but it's not enough to complain. Nathan continues to play an ingratiating character from where I had first liked his development in season one. Now, he just seems like a kid who deals in extreme choices.

 

I know most people hate Peter here, and so do I(on most days) but just to point out that even though they have powers they are not super heroes.

You say oh why didn't he just fly away, something superman would surely do. But Clark Kent has has his powers basically his entire life and his powers are instinct to him he knows his limitations and flying/super strength etc etc are something he does automatically.

Peter on the other hand has only very recently gotten these powers, and yes he has had more exposure than most but still.

 

wtf are you talking about, Peter has been flying since the end of season 1 after the nuke. He only recently lost it and got it back. The reason we hate Peter is because he's an emo pansy, and we have his badass mirror Sylar who does what we all would like Peter to be doing.

The guy is just plain dumb. I don't need him to save the day ever episode but at least for once do something smart. Remember he basically left some chick stranded in some crazy distopian future, and he's fucked up countless other times. He doesn't have to be badass but he needs to grow some fucking balls for once.

Everyone in that family is fucking annoying. Nathan makes absolute no sense, Mama Petrelli spends so much of her time trying to be mysterious, I'm starting to think she does it intentionally just to screw with people, Peter is a dumb faggot, and Claire needs to realize she is completely useless and all she does is get in the way.

She thinks herself some sort of badass because she's all but immortal, but forgets she has the strength, dexterity, and speed of a short 16 year old girl.

Still Sylar makes the show, and I do enjoy the Ando scenes.

 

Did they ever mention what happened to that Irish girl? When Hiro stopped that particular future from happening did she get wiped from existence?

 

Pretty much, she was sent to a future that will never happen. So either she was wiped from existence or 'Back to the Future' rules apply and she is in a separate timeline, that is unreachable.

 

Mini-Sylar, lol.

Confirmed that Peter can only have one ability at a time. Don't know how I feel about that, honestly.

The group meeting near the end? Awesome.

 

I thought the episode sucked and it kind of pissed me off. It was going good up to the second episode. Peter's retcon sucked ass, Speedster getting gunned down, when she is faster than speeding bullet was retarded (and abrupt). Claire being grounded for the 100th time and getting mysterious text messaged was fairly stupid.

The dialogue in this episode also seemed really forced and corny.

Again only thing that saved this episode was Sylar, and the microwave kid, who while his story seemed forced was interesting.

 

I don't know, I thought the episode was okay. Okay enough that, when a comercial came on, I didn't even think about shutting it off like I sometimes do.

I had to ask myself though, If Peter could fly, Why didn't he just kidnap his brother? Nathan wouldn't fly himself because he doesn't want anyone to know of his powers, so he would be quite helpless.

 

Illogical episode was illogical. I want so bad for Heroes to be good, but they just keep jerking us around.

Here's a question. Where the hell did they all get cellphones? Weren't they all in prison jumpsuits with sensory deprivation hoods on their heads a couple of hours before?

Mini-Sylar? Because this show needs more teen angst, right?

Glad Daphne's dead. Wanna see Parkman go insane and make more people kill each other.

 

Peter is about as useful as a shit sandwich to someone who doesnt like bread or shit. His redeeming feature was his ability to collect powers and use them to be hardcore. Now he can only have one at a time, surely he will develop his old powers back.

Sylar is a legend.

 

The problem with Heroes lately was that there were too many overpowered people (esp. Peter and Hiro) for there to be any sort of reasonable conflict.

Time travelling just lends itself to too many deus ex machina endings, so the only way the could find to pull it off was for one or both of them to be retarded, all the time (which was aggravating in it's own special way).

I'd like to see Peter be less of a fuck up, maybe if he focuses on one power at a time he'll have to think things through a bit more. I don't know what they're going to do with Hiro...

 

Hiro was suppose to evolve into a smart human being.

Maybe they need to kill Ando... Though from the start I liked Ando more than Hiro, so...

Maybe these powers cause brain damage? Because almost everyone seems to be becoming stupider as the story progresses.

I do not understand why Ando still believes he's going to kill Hiro. His power is to supercharge... wouldn't it make sense that Ando isn't killing him...

 

See, I always thought that a good compromise with Peter would have been for him to only be able to use one power at a time, meaning that he couldn't stop time and read minds simultaneously, for example. It would have kept him badass without making him a god. But they've gone too far here. Him only being able to hold one power at a time takes him down several notches.

I really want to go back and fix this whole mess, starting with the big fight scene at the end of season one. First off, it should have been Sylar that went nuclear at the end, and Peter that flew away with him. I can understand why they went with the Peter/Nathan angle, but in the end they just derailed both characters.

In my version, Nathan would have stayed away, and kept going with his plan of emerging as a leader during the ensuing crisis (Because a nuke going off over New York City, even if it didn’t kill anyone, would have still been a huge event. The writers really screwed up by retconing that.) Peter still would have ended up with amnesia, but I’d make it self-induced, the logic being that after surviving an atomic blast at ground zero, he would have subconsciously blocked out his memories and suppressed his powers for fear of what might happen if he ever lost control of them.

Sylar would have survived as well, but burned horrifically from the blast. Lips and hands burned off, eyes boiled in their sockets so he has to use his hearing powers to know where he’s going, Freddy Krueger face, the whole works. He wakes up, steals whatsherface’s illusion powers so he can make himself look normal, and sets out after Claire so he can heal himself.

The season would have been about the parallel stories of Sylar trying to heal his body and Peter trying to heal his mind, with the two of them teaming up at the end to stop whatever big bad was threatening the world (Adam Monroe as the villain was fucking fail. I could have thought of something better), and Nathan in the background trying to integrate the Company into the government. It coulda been beautiful, instead of the shit we got, and would have been a perfect lead in to the fugitives story arc.

 

That would have been great Big D, the Freddy-Sylar specially. The writers of the volume 2 and 3 seemed to have their head in clouds, trying to make something epic but in the end just managed to make something stupid.

Do you know of any heroes fanfics that have a plot? I just seem to find Peter/Claire pairings (where the focus of the story is the pairing).

 

Trust & Blood was a fairly good episode. I liked that they stuck with 2 main storylines in the episode, which is a huge improvement, over the clusterfuck of the past two seasons.

The aftermath of the plane crash being told by Nathan was a nice move. I think the episode was meant to show Nathan's power falling, and it did that job convincingly, whether it was the Hunter challenging his authority (numerous times) or the formation of Peter's little group. I personally can't wait till the Hunter takes control, and all hell just breaks loose.

I liked that they are teaming the "Heores" together even if the leader is Peter. I think Parkman would have been a better choice seeing as how he had just lost Daphne. I loved him just losing his shit and forcing the hunters to shoot each other.

My favorite part of the episode was once again: the awesomeness known as Sylar. We finally got evil!Sylar back, and his plan to torture an innocent family to get information out of the agent was spectacular. The kid was alright, but I still have high hopes for this storyline.

 

The good thing about this is that we are going to see the future that keeps on being averted. Hiro, Peter, and Daphne all can not go into the past now, the latter one being the reason why she was killed.

It'll be interesting what kind of people Peter and co. will be by the time their storyline meets up with Sylar's. I suspect they would be less willing to throw stones this time around. I think Sylar would also be delighted that his "we are all monsters" hypothesis would be shaping up quite nicely.

I am not expecting much angst from Minisylar since he is looking to emulate Sylar who prefers to express himself through violence and dark humor.

 

What doesn't make sense for me is why is their a fucking power struggle with Nathan's group. He's a fucking Senator with the president's authority to lead this team. Fire the fucktard if he doesn't want to listen and get someone else. WTF is this?

Ando can still kill Hiro and I have a feeling that the key to Hiro's power is Ando. Ando can supercharge powers so my guess is he can restore Hiro's power temporarily while he uses his power. Also I think if he overdoes his power he can kill. Sort of like a super shot of adrenaline.

Freeze girl sucks as well. I don't understand why she doesn't just grab some dude's face and freeze it off.

Really what bothers me about Heroes is the stupidity each character has. You can write a good show with out making every character retarded. I know you sometimes have to expand your belief but christ.

I think the only reason people like Sylar isn't because he's evil, but because he actually accomplishes shit, and thinks it through. Of all the Heroes he's the only one who wasn't captured. And it wasn't because he has a million powers, he pretty much only used two, and he could of done it with one (telekinesis).

And suddenly everyone is friends with Suresh. Apparently they forgot all the shit he did.

 

Yes.The shows has its flaws.

But.

Hindsight is 20/20

People don't always think logically, especially when they are panicking. People panic.


I am not saying that the writers/actors are doing a top-notch job, just that it could be worse, it is still good enough that we watch it every week when it airs.

 

I thought this episode was pretty good. The only thing that pissed me off was that the writers cannot seem to decide how they want time-travel to function. Ando said that Hiro had to be alive because at some point in the future, he had to kill him. But this happened in a future that was completely eliminated when the formula catalyst disappeared. The events that lead up to the moment when he killed/knocked out Hiro cannot be duplicated.

Also, meatshield!Claire was cool.

 

That is all she is good for.

Claire: Peter can I help?

Peter: Sure Claire.
aside to Mohinder: If bullets start flying, block their line of fire with her body.