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Heroes Reborn

Discussion in 'Movies, Music and TV shows' started by LINKed up, Sep 27, 2006.

  1. Xantam

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    I was a little surprised Peter didn't attempt to save Suresh as well.
     
  2. Boo

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    Why couldnt Suresh break the chains?
     
  3. Anlun

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    Peter doesn't have super strength, and Parkman is no light-weight. He can't do a super fly-in and save both. That was my guess at least.

    I think it was the way he was chained that made it really hard for him even with super strength to break through. Although that theory sounds like a copout since his super strength is pretty powerful (ripping car doors powerful). Logically he should at the very least be able to snap the link on a chain with his fingers but oh well.
     
  4. Koalas

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    Lol at Super-Mom.
     
  5. Invader.Azula

    Invader.Azula Seventh Year

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    I know, Sandra was awesome. But did anyone else laugh when Nathan said "Peter's no dummy." Hell, I missed the next five lines of dialogue because I was laughing so hard.
     
  6. Rhapsody Belle

    Rhapsody Belle Sixth Year

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    He was also under a lot of stress at the time, trying to break his friends free of a secret government airplane taking them away to what amounts to a concentration camp after being drugged and abducted.

    A slip in concentration is pretty believable at that juncture.

    Or, he could just be lying, since I don't remember him touching Nathan since the crash and he can still fly. Sponge!Peter never really did go over well with the others, since he could do what they could only ten times better.
     
  7. Xantam

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    The producers said that Peter is still learning to control his "new" power so hopefully he will eventually be able to hang on to more than one power at a time.
     
  8. Philly Homer

    Philly Homer What you call elephant cum I call mouthwash

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    Last night's episode might have been the most boring episode in the existence of Heroes, and that is an accomplishment.

    The Clair/Mom relationship was boring, and absolutely no one cared about it. I think this is what led to the most boredom throughout the episode. Clair makes me cringe every time she comes on screen. You just should know she is going to be a whiny cunt, and say some horrible dialogue. Like the gem "Another day in the Bennett family". What does that mean?

    Alex was annoying and boring at the same time. We were supposed to care about him in the episode, but we were never given a reason to do so. He has no background story that would make me care about him. I'm not going to care about a character, just because a writer wants me to care about him.

    I was baffled by Peter and Matt gaining entry into Building 26 so easily. It just killed any legitimacy that the Hunter or his squads had built up. They follow that up with Nathan saving Peter. What the fuck? The best part is the mind humbing stupidity wasn't even over yet. The Hunter had an elaborate plan, and it turned out to be strapping some suicide bombs to Matt. As if mind readers are the only ones who do that.

    Sylar's part in this episode was meh. He is usually the only good part of the episode, but this week he just remembered a repressed memory. I guess it was necessary for stroryline development. If he killed his annoying sidekick, I would have cared more.

    I have given this show a chance over and over again, but they are not going back to Season 1 form.
     
  9. Boo

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    I hate that Sylar sidekick. He talks weird, he grumbles everything. And everything is teen angst with him.

    Yeah you would think they would have better defences and more security guarding them. Some of the people werent even watching the moniters.

    I found it funny. The mom was talking about being stronger than they think and its just really being smart (well smart for her).

    A van sitting outside of someone with abilities house and the mom is the only one to notice?
    And Claire is getting like HRG. "I need to protect you" Meanwhile she cant even be bothered to act smart and check thinks out or maybe even make a plan.
     
  10. Herryk

    Herryk First Year

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    See here is why i just don't understand the writers for some of these shows.

    First you have a van parked in a fairly nice neighborhood for over four hours that looks remarkably suspicious and nobody calls the cops about it?

    Second, these government agents know that the kid is inside the house and even know his power, so why are they not equipped with some of the more impressive toys. I mean microwave telescopes, infra-red, and thermals, just sitting in a van with a pair of binoculars seems so 1970's bad FBI style to me.

    Third, ok the whole getting into the building could happen as they felt that they were secret enough to get away with it. But come on guards sitting on posts, without so much as a roving patrol? Did they only hire four guards for the entire complex? Were the other guards all on their mandatory teamster break?

    I just don't know anymore.....
     
  11. Randeemy

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    Im slowly becoming a little disillusioned with Heroes. Season 1 was pretty awesome if a bit slow, it dealt with ordinary people having abilities and had Sylar as a fucking bad ass. And we got teased with future Hiro who was a bit of a legend

    Season 2 tried to shove relationships down our throat, and they realised they got it wrong.

    Season 3, they take powers away from Hiro and Peter and in Peter's case replace it with something shit.

    Season 3 pt 2, Nathan just goes off on one. I mean its hard believe that his character, who has always been the closest to moral ambiguity, to actually think that replicating Guantanamo for people with powers, regardelss of their intentions or indeed type of power, is what the USA needs to protect its citizens.

    You have Parkman, who unlike his Dad has terrible control of his powers, at the same time as being given pre-cog abilities by a tortoise.

    The only thing Im watching for is to see Sylars dad, find out who is REBEL, whether it be HRG, Angela, Internet man, or someone completely new character and of course whilst I hate Hiro, see whether he gets his powers back.
     
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    What annoyed me the most is they seem to want to retcon Sylar. Wtf does his dad have telekinesis and use the same forehead cut thing? My Gf who doesn't really pay too much attention to the show now thought that Sylar got his power from his dad and forgot that his power is to understand how things work not TK.

    This season annoys me to no end but honestly I can partly sympathize. The writer from Season 1 came back now, and I imagine he saw what has been happening and just lost it. So now, my guess is he's trying to use this season to undo all the shit that's happened in Season 2 and the beginning of Season 3. He had to get Peter's powers back, but not have him overpowered.

    He had to get rid of Sylar's empathy power bullshit. He's had to close the Nathan arc. Honestly I feel that next season will be worth it, but I've lost hope for this season. I don't think the guy is fixing it the right way but once this season dies off, I think a fresh start will be worth it.

    What also pisses me off is why Nathan doesn't just fire that albino douchebag. He's a fucking Senator who's in charge of the entire operation and he's taking shit from that bullshit subordinate. Fuck next time he doesn't listen just say "Get the fuck out, you're fired. Good luck finding a job in this economy you creepy psycho."
     
  13. Boo

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    Cant fire someone with all those secrets he has.
    Plus the hunter guy would just go rogue and start killing people.
     
  14. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    He didn't bring in the hunter, the hunter basically took control of the operation from the get go, and his bosses are just letting Nathan be the fall guy so to speak.
     
  15. Koalas

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    TRACEY DIED, DAPHNE DIED, MATT PARKMAN'S BABY MATT PARKMAN HAS A POWER, MATT PARKMAN'S BABY MATT PARKMAN HAS A REALLY STUPID NICKNAME, ANDO'S WEAPONIZED HIS RED ENERGY BEAM-THINGY, ANGELA PETRELLI ALMOST GOT ARRESTED BUT PETER SAVED HER, DOYLE GOT CAPTURED, MICAH IS REBEL AND PETER'S HIDEOUT IS IN THE EFFING HEAD OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY


    Overall an excellent episode that, despite how cliche it sounds, had a very season 1 feel to it. Let the no one ever dies complaint be put to rest.
     
  16. Invader.Azula

    Invader.Azula Seventh Year

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    Totally agree. I knew Bryan Fuller would pull through!
     
  17. Rhapsody Belle

    Rhapsody Belle Sixth Year

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    There was a complaint?

    DL died. Adam (finally) died. Nikki died -- sort of. One half of the Annoying Latino Wonder Twins died. Isaac Mendez died.

    Oh, and ... Claire dies a fair bit, but I don't think that counts.
     
  18. Anlun

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    The show redeemed itself this episode, but I think epic fail is on the way next episode. But yeah
    I think everyone saw Micah being rebel. And are all the triplets going to die? There's only one left, hopefully the next one last a bit more. Overall awesome episode. I'm glad they killed of Daphne, she was an annoying character, and the relationship didn't make sense
     
  19. Rhapsody Belle

    Rhapsody Belle Sixth Year

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    Having finally watched this episode, it's good to see the beginnings of a return of what drew me to this series in the first season. It still has a long way to go to get back to that quality though. But it's a good start to fix a lot of the things subsequent writing teams have fucked up since the strike.

    Yes, I was one of those who saw Micah being Rebel coming. Guy who can hack computers despite top-level government security speaks of a technopath, and they've only introduced two of those, one of which is dead. For as obvious as they made it, it was also a fairly good way to bring Micah back into the show. So I'll forgive them for that. Reintroducing established characters who already have the ability is usually better than bringing new blood into the mix.

    Daphne is such an ungrateful little bitch in this episode. If I was being held somewhere, and someone was refusing me medical attention, I'd be thankful for any story that got me patched up again, never mind if it was about that person's ex-wife. She's one of those characters I think could have been done so much better... if the writers had any friggin' idea what to do with her. As it stands, she was used poorly and pointlessly in the end.

    I honestly don't think they know what to do with Parkman's love life, which may be why they've brought Janice back into it. After all, they had worked things out at the end of Season 1, and then suddenly, they were divorced in the Season 2 premiere. And poor old Matt has been floundering around for love all this time.

    Tracey "dying" was probably a good thing for the series, since a lot of people were ambivalent about her replacing Nikki, who I personally really liked. It was really cheesy though... and given that wink that the shattered head did, I'm not at all certain she really is dead. Emma Frost was shattered too, and she managed to be reconstituted. First rule of comic books is: no body, no death. And even if there is a body, sometimes not even then.

    Hiro's powers should never have been taken away in the first place -- the entire story arc with Arthur Petrelli was badly, badly mishandled -- and I'm thankful that they've introduced elements that have given him at least one half of his powerset back.

    Ando should never have been given powers in the first place, since his role was the average person who was in on the secret, and faced a lot of the same dangers, but didn't have powers to rely on to save his ass. I think that him getting powers took something away from his role. But at least it's not just that pussified supercharging ability.

    Statue of Liberty as a secret superhero base = awesome.
     
  20. Skykes

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    When Matt and Peter were in Nathans building getting the data they struggled a little when it was 2 versus 4, but here Matt convinces that the hallway was empty 1 versus 4 in about 2 seconds.
     
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