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Complete The Denarian Lord by Shezza 88 - M - Dresden Files

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by XxEnvyxX, Jun 29, 2008.

  1. Chime

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    Harry won't be able to call war upon God if he's dead. That would work out nicely if Mr. Omnipotence thinks Harry's more useful dead than alive to him. I find the situation unlikely though. It's simply likely that Harry was tired and caught off guard by Voldemort (or Maeve? I guess. But how's she going to get there and why would she bother?).

    Or maybe by "missing" he's simply been fighting this whole time? It wasn't said he was "captured" simply "missing". He could be in the nevernever, actually. If I remember, time flows differently there.
     
  2. Pieman

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    Uh, considering this has been called the "Maeve arc" by Shezza, I think it's safe to assume that Maeve did it. Besides, she's the only thing capable of doing this (That has a motive), because we've seen first hand that Voldemort can't do shit to him that he can't escape from. So anybody Voldemorts power and below is pretty much out, as well as people a bit above him, considering Harry's growth, so it'd have to be someone that completely towers over Voldemort, and the Queens are the only things that come to mind.

    But that begs the question, how the fuck could she do anything behind the threshold of the apartment? Harry, or at least Meciel advising Harry, is smart enough to realise that from their last meeting, she dun lyk harry much no more. No way he would of willingly let her into his appartment, and I'm pretty sure Faerie are pretty much crippled completely when invading someones area.
     
  3. CaffeineAddict

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    If memory serves, Harry's threshold is quite weak, that and his wards were destroyed in the attack on the Denarians, and as such will never be able to sex him up.
     
  4. Pieman

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    Uh crap, I forgot about the wards dying a virgin.
    In my defence it's 7:45am, and I was up reading Turn Coat all night so I'm tired.

    Still, I always thought that Faeries were extremely weak against thresholds, and were bound by those old laws that should make it just as impossible for her to pass even a weak threshold as much as it stops her from breaking promises.

    But that just could be shoddy, sleepless night high memory talking. Fuck it, there's going to be some Amaris and by God I am happy with how things are going because of it.
     
  5. Skeletaure

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    Normally Faeries can't interfere in mortal affairs except through deals. If it is Maeve, I'm guessing that Amaris comes into how Maeve circumvents this.
     
  6. Fimbulvintr

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    I know this is not Harry's style and even I doubt the probability of this, but with Meciel's smarts and cunning it just might be true. I find it unlikely that Harry would let himself be taken so easily; the evidence suggests a fight, this shows that Harry was not completely surprised and disabled rapidly. Harry would have caused massive levels of destruction far more than just trashing his apartment if it had been a real life or death fight. I think that this is all some complex plot thought up by Meciel to make the other parties (whomever they may be) think some shit went down when in reality Harry is safe and off doing something important somewhere.
     
  7. CaffeineAddict

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    Harry wants to get Amaris away from Maeve, that much has been made clear. Perhaps he fought them off for a bit and then decided it was in his interest to attempt to exploit the situation? A long shot I know as Harry isn't the most cunning individual (as Fimbulvintr stated), but at this point I'm open to wildly speculating.
     
  8. Innomine

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    Hi, my name is Ellisande and I know the answers to all the questions you are discussing.

    Either way, I absolutely loved reading Amanda's POV, I wish we had this more in the past. Really refreshing and enjoyable to read.
     
  9. Mercenary

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    TEEEEL US! TEEEEEEEEEEEEEL US! XD

    Somewhere, somewhen some shit is about to go down.
     
  10. CaffeineAddict

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    You sir are dirty filthy tease!
     
  11. Skeletaure

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    Mwahahahahahaha!

    Denarian!Amanda

    :D

    Though interesting question: in a fight between Denarian!Amanda and unDenarian!Harry, who would win?

    Also, does Harry have a shadow of Meciel still in his mind, as Dresden had Lash?
     
  12. Pieman

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    Dude.

    The fuck.

    Awesome, didn't see this coming, but suspected a non-Denarian Harry since Renegade but still...

    Dude.

    ... Okay, this goes doubly so for the omake. I'm afraid to have children now.
     
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  13. Datakim

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    Okay, I did not expect that.

    I wonder how this will play out. Assuming that Dumbledore&co manage to rescue Harry, will Amanda happily give the coin back or will she be tempted to keep it. Also I suppose we will see atleast a little how Meciel feels. She has a new host in Amanda now, will she care enough for Harry to risk trying to rescue him or despite everything, was he just another host afterall.

    Also how much will Harry's magical skills be weakened. Without Hellfire, is he still powerfull(just not THAT powerfull) or is he just average. He cannot use words atleast.

    The omake was well written though I have never been a big fan of the Father/Daughter-sex thing. Is the Omake canon btw? It suggests that there has been further time difference and Amaris is now 15? True for canon too?
     
  14. Innomine

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    Oh man, waited so long for this. :D

    Pity the next bit won't come for at least a week. :(

    Edit: Data, omake is canon, though I have the same issues that you do with it. Age = true for canon too.
     
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  15. Pieman

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    From her rage, I say she wants to get Harry back, and was genuinely fond of him. How the hell she's going to get him back is another matter altogether.

    Maybe Amaris will save the day!

    And the age thing makes me wonder, how much will Harry age before he's saved? Because 60 year old Harry with back aches and a bladder problem's reunion with Meciel probably won't be pretty.
     
  16. Imprega

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    Loved the chapter, looking forward to see what will happen. I will however be sad if Harry loses Meciel :(

    I also wonder what will happen to Amanda. I doubt she will be willingly hand over the coin to Harry, either because she will be tempted to keep it, or she thinks she can somehow safe Harry from Meciel. Maybe they will end up fighting over her
     
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  17. Skeletaure

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    Harry may still be able to use Hellfire given that Harry Dresden was able to.

    As for Meciel, even if she didn't care for Harry on a personal level, she's put a lot of work into making him the perfect host for her: Amanda is a step down. So she'd want Harry back anyway. I expect many amusing remarks from Meciel about how inadequate Amanda is compared to Harry.
     
  18. Datakim

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    I wonder how that will work, I mean if time is constantly being messed with, Harry should have little hope of being saved since years could pass for him while Dumbledore&co are planning for a rescue.

    I suppose it all depends on Amaris now. Not sure how I feel about making her practically the same age as her father. Thats a bit strange. Atleast she is not older than Harry, that would have just been too bizarre. :p

    Hey! Maybe Amaris will become the next knight and wielder of the sword. She is descended from royalty afterall. :)

    EDIT:

    Does that apply here? Dresden was able to use it because he still had a link to the coin through Lash(the shadow). But the impression I got from the books is that the purpose of the shadow is to tempt someone who has touched the coin but not accepted it yet into doing so. I think once you DO accept the coin and THEN give it away, there is no shadow.

    Atleast we know that when that snake-guy gave up his coin, he no longer was a denarian and had no connection to the coin. It is essentially the same thing here so I suspect no shadow and no hellfire for Harry. Still, I do hope that Harry is still a kickass wizard even now, it would be kinda lame if all you have to do is take the coin away and he becomes a pussy. He should still be leagues above any death-eater/auror or such, even if he does not match Voldemort anymore.

    As for Meciel, it is true that Harry is a better host for her, however as someone who is immortal, the decade or so that would be required to convert Amanda to match her desires would be small potatoes. Especially compared to the risk of attacking the winter stronghold and dying there, leaving the coin trapped in Winters hands.
     
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  19. KrzaQ

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    Okay, that was unexpected. And did not make any sense to me, and I hate when my favorite stories make no sense.

    I'm waiting eagerly to learn what's the story behind all of this.
     
  20. Skeletaure

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    Depends on if Harry left the coin deliberately or if it was removed from him forcefully I guess.

    Also I wonder if Shezza is going to link this up with Dresden canon and have the mysterious trashing of Arctis Tor be because of this.
     
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