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Harry/Tonks: Are we losing it?

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Shezza, Jul 12, 2006.

  1. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    One way to make it realistic: Tonks is a closet paedophile. A couple of weeks into their relationship Harry finds out that she's begun to groom a 14 year old boy on the side.
     
  2. psihary

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    Ah, the dislike for the Harry/Tonks pairing is strong with this one... O_0
     
  3. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Haha, I like the pairing (in theory - in practice it hardly ever is done well).

    I just like pointing out amusing twists on our preconceptions.
     
  4. Admonkeystrator

    Admonkeystrator Seventh Year

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    Hmmm ok.

    Remus Lupin is a werewolf etc etc
    So going by J.K's naming convention, shouldn't Nymphadora be a complete slut or a lesbian?

    I think the super-slut is the only real avenue you could go for a HP/NT pairing.
     
  5. Oz

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    In that case, why doesn't Harry make clay pots? 9_9
     
  6. Averis

    Averis Don of Delivery ~ Prestige ~

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    I searched for a good fifteen minutes trying to find it (and I couldn't) but I had something like this idea a while back - Harry becomes the heir of the Black family and Tonks wants her share, so she seduces him under the guise of teaching him how to be an Auror and taking him away from the Dursleys. However, the twist is that Harry recognizes this immediately and basically milks it for all it's worth: he needs the Auror training, hates the Dursleys, and honestly doesn't mind having a hot ass metamorph around on a daily basis.

    Get the idea?

    That would be the most epic kind of Honks available, although it would need more than that to write a full-length story.

    EDIT: Link problem - fixed.
     
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    No, it means 'Gift of The Nymphs'.

    The newest (AFAIK) and possibly fastest rising cliché in the Honks world is that Harry and Tonks knew each other when Harry was just a baby and she was crushed when he disappeared after his parents death.

    I had actually been writing something where they had met that far back, then all of a sudden it was in every other H/NT story I read, so I shit-canned the whole thing.
     
  8. darklordmike

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    Actually admonkey's interpretation makes some sense.

    Her name does mean 'gift of the nymphs,' and the nymphs were nature spirits in Greek mythology. They were known for changing their appearances, so right there you have an obvious connection to Tonks' abilities. Perhaps her mother named her after she realized Tonks was a metamorphmagus.

    But the nymphs were also known for seducing mortal men. Over time the word 'nymph' became associated with beautiful women, or, more specifically, beautiful women who have a lot of sex. Hence our modern usages like 'nymphomania' or 'nymphet.' Tonks' name would mean 'a beautiful woman who likes sex' to someone not familiar with the classical origins--perhaps that's why she finds it embarrassing.
     
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    Because Patrick Swayze isn't behind him gently caressing and guiding his hands with his ever so delicate yet manly tools of love.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXH4vDQWptU&feature=related

    For the uncultured Philistines that don't know what I meant.

    Touche mon pussycat.

    Edit: THO fucking lol!
     
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  10. The-Hyphenated-One

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    Don't forget his pancreatic cancer.
     
  11. Silens Cursor

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    If anything, I think this is one of the newest Tonks cliches I've seen recently, and although golddigger!Tonks is entertaining to read, I got sick of it.

    Now there was a series I actually had hopes for. At least in the earlier books of the series, Harry was entertaining to read. Then the author grabbed the wrong end of the completely wrong stick and sent Harry's angst meter through the roof in Book 5. Book 6 had split-personality!Harry, which I actually genuinely enjoyed, but Book 7 has been one long slog through misguided romance and writing that is on the near side of shit. Harry was made to be a completely unlikeable character (hell, Draco was made more appealing than Harry, and that's unforgivable), and I just stopped caring about the R-Series. Plus it doesn't help that the author's a bit of a whiny bitch (although I will give her props for writing the scene where Harry pins Terry Boot to the wall with railway ties and rips apart Bellatrix's soul).

    And since I feel like quoting my own fic, here's my take on the whole Metamorphmagus side of things:

    Frankly, Rowling never gave us a lot of information regarding Metamorphmagi, so I did a bit of extrapolation.
     
  12. Chengar Qordath

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    New random thought, this one starting with a cliche and tweaking it a bit.

    Dumbledore orders Tonks to impersonate a new student at Hogwarts in Harry's age group in order to serve as a bodyguard/protector for Harry. At some point during the year Harry, being a hormonal teenager, gets involved with the one of the Slytherin females. Dumbledore does not approve, and suggests that Tonks should find some way to disrupt the relationship "for Harry's own good." Tonks, not being nearly as manipulative as Dumbledore, refuses to mess with Harry's romantic life.

    After that, Harry gets lured off to an isolated location by his Slytherin girlfriend promising him sex, and gets dragged into a Death Eater ambush that he barely survives. After that Tonks decides that, while it is all kinds of messed up and wrong, being involved with Harry is justifiable for the greater good to keep him safe from DE manipulations. That could give us a Honks that reveled in how messed up and wrong the pairing is since Tonks would be really uncomforable in the relationship.
     
  13. Skeletaure

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    Silens Cursor: Not convinced that the wizarding world would distrust metamorphmagi so much, given that any wizard sufficiently skilled in human Transfiguration can do everything they can do, and no one has ever banned or disliked that...
     
  14. Johnny Farrar

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    Or people could just use Polyjuice Potion.

    Anyways, when is the update going to come for Renegade Cause.
     
  15. Chengar Qordath

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    Well, one could posit that equivalent abilities like human Transfiguration and Polyjuice Potion hadn't been invented yet when metamorphmagi first appeared in the 12th century. It's entirely possible that human Transfiguration and Polyjuice played a role in the later changes to the law to be less harsh on Metamorphmagi; once they were no longer so unique and different there was less reason to discriminate against them. It's also possible that things like human Transfiguration and Polyjuice Potion were developed by studying how Metamorphmagis' powers work.

    Metamorphmagi also don't suffer from the weaknesses of other means of impersonation: human Transfiguration is probably somewhat dangerous, achieving a perfect imitation of another person would be difficult, and it can probably be countered/dispelled, while Polyjuice Potion requires hourly doses and needs a sample of the person you want to imitate.
     
  16. Silens Cursor

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    All possible explanations, but let me humor Taure for a second and discuss human transfiguration. If we run by the logic presented in your theory of magic (henceforth called the 'Taurean theory'), from what we know from canon, human transfiguration is only taught at NEWT level - above and beyond ordinary wizards, by your theory. Furthermore, when Krum attempted to use human transfiguration upon himself, he botched it, and he was the champion from his school - presumably one of the toughest and most skilled wizards from Durmstrang. This implies, by the Taurean Theory, that only the most skilled wizards can perform human transfiguration correctly - nothing on the scale of a Metamorphmagi, and nothing as quickly or as easily.

    Subsequently, tracing things back to the twelth century, when intolerance towards witches/wizards would have been high (likely within and without wizarding society, given the relative lack of legislation and control), a person that could transfigure themselves without any serious application of magic would be a serious threat indeed. Coupled with the fact (and I'm speculating now) that ingredients for Polyjuice were probably harder to come by in medieval times, the Metamorphmagus would probably be considered a serious threat, particularly by ruling bodies, wizard and muggle.

    And the update to Renegade Cause... well, I'd like to get my oneshot done first (considering it's part of a challenge on another site), but I might post the first half of Chapter 12. Not sure about it, though, considering it's a lot of exposition and relatively slow-moving.
     
  17. nonjon

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    Since we're just making up as much shit as we can and arguing over the merit of our made up shit, let me try.

    Maybe metamorphmagi have only been around for the last 200 years. It could be that some addle-brained nanny who failed to get her Potions mastery accidentally put a newborn baby into her batch of polyjuice potion which she then mistook for a tuna casserole surprise. She realized her mistake when fifteen minutes later the oven was crying, but super human transfiguration powers had already activated. And because of this magical confluence of events, at that moment, anyone who was between 2 weeks to 5 months pregnant and had 13, 21, or 27 letters in their full name was suddenly carrying a metamorphmagus baby.

    They still pop up every once in a while these days, but the fact of the matter is that there have been people on the Wizengamot who desperately hate tuna casserole and they're the ones who've been suppressing all knowledge and history of metamorphs.

    Pulling my head out of my ass for a second to get back on topic, you want a good way to get Harry and Tonks together? Easy. He's a self-sacrificing teenage boy whose too shy to get a girlfriend and doesn't have the time to between attacks on his life. She's a ready, willing, and able woman, comfortable in her skin and sexuality completely unthreatened by an awkward clumsy boy who doesn't deserve to die a virgin.

    A good old fashioned pity-deflowering is a fine foundation for a relationship. Tonks deep down assumes he'll probably die soon anyway (but of course he'll grow on her) and Harry's going to jump at her lifeboat and flotation devices every opportunity he has.

    It just gets ruined when he asks for her "natural form" or she turns into a pathetic blubbering unloved whiny whore. But you don't need to inject excessive drama to bring the two little slutpuppies together.
     
  18. Blaise

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    I could've sworn I read this on HP-Lexicon...

    The legit almost-plotbunny at the end seems legit. I heard that she can regrow her hymen, so technically they can deflower together. So precious.
     
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    Adding to nonjon's brilliant idea, you could have Harry boinking her throughout his fifth year. Makes for some interesting scenarios whether you're writing humour or general fics.
     
  20. Skeletaure

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    Not sure the rarity of high skill at human transfiguration would impact the matter much, given that no matter how rare people good at human transfiguration are, metamorphmagi are even rarer.
     
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